"Free travel for free citizens" - the slogan from the 1970s has long since become obsolete.
As a rule, drivers of the 2020s are stuck in traffic.
But how do you wean him from the two-ton SUV?
The metropolises of this world groan under smog and greenhouse gases.
70 percent of the emissions and consumption of resources on earth occur in the big cities.
So what can the ideal living space for metropolitan areas look like in the future?
The new President of the Federal Environment Agency, Dirk Messner, speaks in this podcast episode about his visions for the urban population of the planet.
SPIEGEL editor Markus Deggerich also discussed with him how the new ideas could be put into practice.
How can you redirect urban life to people and not to cars?
Do you even need an ecological dictatorship to implement the measures?
Because mankind has known about climate change for decades.
But how do we get from knowledge to action?
And what role does the Federal Environment Agency actually play in politics?
Is it more of a green protective shield for the federal government or a green fig leaf?
Dirk Messner explains in the podcast what the office actually does and what influence it has on Realpolitik.
Germany's top eco leads the corona crisis for how quickly, for example, CO2 emissions can be reduced.
For the areas of mobility, urban planning and nutrition, he outlines ideas for the future.
Curious?
Then just click on the play arrow at the beginning of the article and listen to the new episode of our podcast SPIEGEL Live - The Conversation.
It was recorded on September 1, 2020 in cooperation with Urania Berlin.
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