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06/30/2020 - 8:00
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Ernestina Pais , 48 years old, television and radio host. She started in 1996, as a movilera of La Biblia y el calefón , Jorge Guinzburg's program. Now he is part of the Intratables panel , in America. And everything she says or does generates a reaction.
-Do they tell you Ernesta?
-They tell me anything. They call me "beast", "Ernes" ... When I started to become better known I made myself a shirt that said: "I am Federica's sister".
-I had forgotten your sister's name ...
-Yes, but I'm not going to talk about her because she just chose to lower her profile a lot.
-Is your nephew still in prison?
-No, no, it's already fulfilled.
-You are good live ...
-I am divine, but I'm already 48 ...
-How do you get along with the controversial profile that “Intratables” gave you?
-I am zero controversy. It strikes me that things I say are replicated in the networks and on the news portals. But, well, you can see that I am a character that obviously generates something.
-Do you use Twitter?
-I do not use. I don't like a social network where you can not identify yourself.
-Who took you to Intratables?
-I came from touring with The Menopause Show , a play, a total success, and I began to realize that my son was entering an age when I needed him to be more. We did a couple of tours of the country, two seasons in Mar del Plata and just Santiago del Moro announces that he is leaving the program. I happened to be invited by those days, it seems that I did well and they called me for the panel. The same producers that were with Del Moro are those that are now with Fabián (Doman).
Pure smile. Ernestina assures that she says what she thinks without speculating. And that is what he likes about her. Photo: Juan Manuel Foglia
-What is expected of you?
- That it says what I think without speculating on what can or cannot benefit me. Behind it all is (Liliana) Parodi, the channel's director. I have a long-standing relationship with her. Don't forget that I am leaving America when panic attacks catch me at American Breakfast , do you remember?
-How long did that program last?
-Three months, but I had also started as I would notice on that channel with La Biblia y el calefón : Liliana Parodi was the programming manager and Eurnekian, the owner of the channel.
-We are talking about…?
-From 1996. So I started.
-Can you go "mask" to Intratables or is it unbearable?
-You can go mask anywhere. Besides a mask, for me, it does not have to do with substance use but having a double face.
-When you left "American Breakfast" there was talk of drugs ...
- I do not remember that there was talk of drugs. I also couldn't watch TV for two months. They forbade me. But I don't take any sleeping pills, and when I was medicated by the attacks, I couldn't stand it and left everything. Did you really talk about drugs?
-I think so.
-Anything talks about me.
-It can happen ...
-What I experienced was severe panic attacks. Anxiety disorders. I couldn't leave home. When I started to tell what was happening to me, many people started to open their heads.
-Did panic attacks catch you when you were on the air?
-Panic attacks are associated not with weak people, but with people who have endured a lot and in a moment the body begins to say: “heh, I warned you once, twice, three times. I warned you that you had to leave there. " They warn you and you ignore them because you are not afraid of the warning. There is panic. When you don't feel the fear that warns, panic comes face to face.
- The program generated all this matter to you?
-Not the program, x situations. When Jorge (Guinzburg) died, we went on the air ten days after his death and I wondered: how am I going to go on the air to say "helloooo!"? Will this be okay? For a long time I kept saying that everything was fine and not everything was fine. When you demand the body as I demanded it by having the restaurant (partner in Million), Informal Tomorrow , Informal Afternoons , events that I organized or conducted, at one point the body tells you enough… Did you really talk about drugs?
-I'm not sure.
-Not only do they talk about drugs about me, they talk about anything and that happens through the place I occupy, because of what I think and because of what happened to my family ( N de R: she is the daughter of a disappeared father ).
-Would you be the female version of Brancatelli?
-Not at all.
-Why are you a Kirchner?
-No, no, no, I am not a Kirchner, nor am I a Macrista. But since I'm not a macrista, they put me on the other side. That is the big problem we have. The crack is like this: you cannot be neither one thing nor the other.
-And how do you define yourself politically?
-I am politically independent. And what I thank the channel for is the freedom with which I can speak. There is like an internal joke in the program that consists that they never know well where I am going to go. Brancatelli, who adore him, love him, has an open militancy and works politically with them. I don't do any of those things and politics interests me from the social side.
- Out of the air, do they all get along?
-With Débora (Plager) we have gone to the theater together, with Gustavo (Grabia) we are united by a history of years in Rock & Pop. Claudio Savoia seems to me one of the most informed journalists that exist and Ceferino (Reato) is my impossible love. Together we laugh at our differences.
-Who is the most expensive panelist of Intratables?
-Expensive?
-The best payment.
-I don't have the slightest idea, I hope it's me.
-There is the fantasy that many panelists agree to go for free to the programs.
- In the channel they are very ordered with that subject. I make an arrangement. One fix per day. I'm not going for free. There are recurring guests, but that's another thing.
-Driving television. Acting in plays. Being in a political program ... It gives the impression that you can do anything.
-I'm a little 4X4, yes. What gives me a certain self-sufficiency is that each project I undertake has a situation related more to conviction than to money. So that gives me freedom. I love what I do.
-Three lessons to not believe it on TV.
-Who believes it on TV ?!
-Hey, Ernestina, there are a lot of former Big Brother driving ...
- I believe that the secret of crossing the screen is that you believe what you say. Being known is the collateral damage of a conviction. If you do not believe it, nobody believes you ...
- "Being known is the collateral damage of a conviction." That phrase already makes you better than Negra Vernaci.
-Thank you. I swear to you that in my fucking life I competed with her. It works well for me because I think in the same way in Intratables and at home, and that is because I believe in my opinions and I believe in my colleagues in Intratables who learned to respect and love me.
-You started with Guinzburg being a most friendly character. What would he say if he saw you now?
-Let me relax a little more. Sometimes I go to the program and say to myself, "That's not me." The problem is that everything is so fast, the panel rhythm, the others who are so informed ...
-Which panelists of "Intratables" do you like the most?
-Debora seems brilliant to me and Vilouta is very lovable.
-Did you ever believe it a bit?
-I never believed it. If not, you wouldn't have had panic attacks.
-How do you get along with feminism?
-Beyond the poster, I have always been fighting for a different female figure without falling into the feminine concept that we usually have. I have had to deal with that of "the lesbian" or "the drug addict" and if I am not something it is just that.
-Lesbian?
-No, I mean a person who depends on posters to go forward. I look crazy but I'm not crazy. I was always questioned in my feminine role, because I do not enter the canons of femininity. I am a feminist because I believe in equality, because I never cared if you are a man or a woman and because I am a different mother, I say, not too orthodox. But mainly I consider that feminism is a policy of action and not something that goes against men.
-Do you consider yourself a journalist?
-Yes, with the passage of time yes. Journalism is a job. They can give you a journalist title but that will not validate you as such. Curiosity is not taught by any university.
-Is Eduardo Feinmann the most independent communicator in Argentina?
-Ahhh, I don't have the slightest idea, che ... But I believe in independent journalism. What's more, I practice independent journalism.
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