TSV 1860 in the Corona crisis: Lion boss Gorenzel thanks FC Bayern Munich

The Corona crisis also hits TSV 1860 Munich hard. Does the season in the third division continue at all? All developments here in the news ticker.

• In the 3rd division, the game is suspended due to the Corona crisis  until further notice.
• The already clammy TSV 1860 Munich is threatened with major financial losses - but the lions plead for a continuation of the season and still hope quietly for the rise. 
• In the third division there is a dispute among the clubs - all developments in the news ticker .

Update from April 27, 1:10 p.m .: The controversy in the 3rd league about a termination or continuation of the season goes into the next round. Aim of the latest criticism: Waldhof Mannheim , second in the table and thus possible promotion to the 2nd Bundesliga.

TSV 1860 Munich: Löwen boss Gorenzel sharply criticizes Waldhof Mannheim

According to information from the Rheinpfalz , the father of a Waldhof professional died of Covid-19 . Managing Director  Markus Kompp had informed  the German Football Association (DFB) and other third division clubs via email about the death.

Yesterday Thursday, SV Waldhof Mannheim 07 Spielbetriebs GmbH received the decision of the German Football Association that all admission requirements for the 3rd league season 2020/21 have been met.https: //t.co/RFyRWXRcXA#WirsindWaldhof # svw07

"After consulting the player, I can confirm that this email exists," said Kompp. The advance of the Mannheimer in the media now causes a lot of resentment among the competition - especially with TSV 1860 Munich and its managing director Sport, Günther Gorenzel .

“ From a moral point of view, everyone should judge for yourself that your statements, the causa game continuation in the 3rd league , now place yourself above the expertise of the medical task force of the DFL, and that you position the tragic incident in your club,” said Gorenzel in an email to the  kicker and the  picture .

Waldhof Mannheim coach: Ex-Lion Bernhard Trares.

© dpa / Michael Deines

Waldhof Mannheim had only moved up to third-rate this season after many years in the Regionalliga Südwest and is now obviously hoping for a march into the Bundesliga lower house. The Kurpfälzer are trained by the former sixth man Bernhard Trares .

The lions as sixth in the table still have low hopes for promotion - so the season in the 3rd league should actually be brought to an end against the protest of other clubs.

Lion boss Günther Gorenzel thanks FC Bayern and BVB

Update, 5:35 p.m .: Well, what's going on there? Günther Gorenzel, Head of Sports at TSV 1860 Munich , expressly thanked the big city rival of the lions, FC Bayern .

"I would like to thank FC Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig and Leverkusen, " said the Austrian in an interview with the picture .

The reason: The four Champions League representatives from Germany had provided income from international business in an aid package from the German Football League (DFL) to help endangered clubs.

How and when will TSV 1860 Munich continue in the 3rd division?

© picture alliance / Andreas Geber / Andreas Gebert

7.5 million euros of this went to the clubs of the 3rd division and the women's Bundesliga through a solidarity fund . 

According to consistent media reports, 300,000 euros went to TSV 1860 Munich . The Corona crisis is currently forcing the Third League to stop playing. Individual clubs even vote to cancel the season.

Season break in the 3rd league? TSV 1860 Munich is against it

Update, 5 p.m .:  The clubs that demand a two-pronged 3rd league are going publicly more and more verbally on the offensive.

Rot-Weiss Essen can now even get legal advice in view of the impending season break of the Regionalliga West and vehemently advocates the introduction of a third division , which is divided into two seasons from south and north. 

"We will get legal assistance for everything that happens from now on," explained Managing Director Marcus Uhlig of the German Press Agency:  "We have a sporting and financially promising position. For us, it's about up to 2.5 million. Solutions on the association side have to be found for some kind of compensation. "

Essen is third in the western season - and would still have chances of advancement. The TSV 1860 München rejects a two-pronged Second Division  decided against it, and would like the season 2019/20 play out.

Update from April 24, 3:50 p.m .:  Still no decision as to whether and whether the third division will continue in the 2019/20 season.

The German Football Association (DFB) now wants to convene an Extraordinary Bundestag for a possible decision on a termination, it was announced on Friday when this date - presumably virtually - was to take place, but was not known.

For the TSV 1860 Munich it is therefore a matter of persevering!

3rd league in the corona crisis: According to the DFB, there is a risk of a loss of 30 million euros

Update from April 23, 10:45 p.m .: Decisions on Friday? The Presidium of the German Football Association (DFB) advises in a video link on how to proceed in the 3rd division .

There are still eleven game days missing until the end of the season, most recently eight clubs had pleaded for this season to be canceled due to the Corona crisis . 

At the earliest in the coming week there will be a secret vote among the clubs, but this would only serve to form an opinion, it is said. It is completely open whether this season can be played again in the third division . 

According to the DFB , the clubs, including  TSV 1860 Munich , would lose a total of around 30 million euros if canceled. The Löwen are one of the clubs that are for a continuation of the 2019/20 season - also because the Giesingen still have quiet hopes for promotion.

TSV 1860 Munich in the corona crisis: DFB urges unity

Update from April 22, 4 p.m .: The German Football Association (DFB) warns the disputed third division clubs to unite in the corona crisis .

“We want to offer the 3rd division solutions that enable the game to continue. The 3rd league also falls into the category of professional football, "said DFB general secretary Friedrich Curtius der Bild :" We are working very hard to ensure that this succeeds and that we will have finished the season by June 30th. "

The #DFB, the 3rd league committee and the management of the 20 clubs exchanged views on the current situation of the # 3 league and how to proceed in another meeting. https://t.co/h9aKfUiTNd pic.twitter.com/c6wRHhB5JT

According to the DFB, the association and club representatives agreed on "an objective, constructive and above all goal-oriented discussion", the DFB asked to refrain from any further public confrontation between individual clubs. Eight clubs had previously called for the current season to be canceled due to the coronavirus pandemic in a position paper. 

The DFB Presidium will deal on Friday "with the framework conditions for a possible resumption of play in federal game classes", the association announced now. Also, the TSV 1860 München is in Giesing forward to new signals from Frankfurt wait.

TSV 1860 in the corona crisis: huge solidarity with #MachtDasSechzgerVoll

Update from April 22, 3 p.m .: In the Corona crisis , it is important to stand together across the country.

At TSV 1860 Munich , they exemplify this motto - for example through the #MachtDasSechzgerVoll campaign . 

Check out this post on Instagram

Different fan groups, media representatives, partners and sponsors of the # Löwen have called on #GeneralForSixty in the case of "ghost games" to refrain from returning the admission tickets and also to buy so-called "ghost tickets" according to the motto #PowerDasSechzgerVoll. TSV 1860 Munich is grateful for this suggestion, but would also like to give something back to the fans. All information www.tsv1860.de. # tsv1860 @ 3.liga # TogetherForSixty #MachtDasSechzgerVoll #ZEtsunsuns #ELIL # fu3ball #dankedankedanke # 3liga #Banner

A post shared by TSV 1860 Munich (@ tsv1860) on Apr 20, 2020 at 3:00 p.m. PDT

Specifically: Many Löwen fans have now agreed to waive the reimbursement of the cost of their season tickets or single tickets for the Grünwalder Stadium that have already been purchased for possible ghost games in the third division .

TSV 1860 in the Corona crisis: In front of 5,000 fans in the Grünwald stadium?

Update from April 21, 6.45 p.m .: How will the 3rd league continue in the long term? With spectators? Without? Or perhaps with a smaller capacity in the stadiums? No solutions for the current season have been found in the highest DFB league, so the future is already being discussed.

"After the ghost games , there must be thoughts about a second step in the medium term," now Löwen boss Günther Gorenzel  told the picture : "If I have clear requirements as to how many people are allowed to go to a hardware store - why shouldn't it be possible, 30 percent of the time To let fans of normally 15,000 into our stadium? Of course, under strict admission rules. "

Sports director of TSV 1860 Munich: Günther Gorenzel.

© sampics / Stefan Matzke / Stefan Matzke

For the Austrian, a mask requirement in stadiums because of the corona crisis is also a conceivable scenario. “You will also have to discuss this. The question is: would we rather not have football by 2021? Or soccer under certain conditions? ”Said the managing director of sports at TSV 1860 Munich .

Gorenzel further explained that one could also "market ghost games", "our calculation is that a demolition would cause us far more damage economically than ghost games. Ghost games also mean that I have broadcasting rights. I may be able to broadcast games on public television ”.

TSV 1860: Despite the Corona - Grünwald stadium, the renovation is safe

Update of April 20, 5:30 p.m .:  As it became known this Monday, the city of Munich wants to expand the Grünwald stadium from 15,000 to just over 18,000 spectators despite the Corona crisis .

"It is now over 18,000, so we got more out of it," said City Councilor Verena Dietl (SPD) at münchen.tv : "You can see that it is urgently needed. We have several teams playing there. It is a stadium in the middle of the city and very important for our city. ”

The FDP, meanwhile, criticizes the plans to maintain a timely modernization of the Grünwald stadium despite the coronavirus pandemic and the as yet unpredictable economic consequences .

“One thing is clear: we have to wait and see how the financial situation will develop after the Corona crisis. All projects in the city must be put to the test. The city's liquidity is collapsing, ”said City Councilor Jörg Hoffmann münchen.tv.

TSV 1860: ghost games in the 3rd league? Lion boss sees no alternative

Update from April 20, 4 p.m .:  Günther Gorenzel continues to  show himself as a staunch advocate for a continuation of the season in the 3rd league - if necessary by means of ghost games .

"What is the alternative to the statements by renowned experts that games will no longer be able to take place in front of spectators in 2020? I can not understand the different economic valuation of ghost games , ”the lion boss told  the kicker (Monday edition):“ If I now call for the season to be canceled because it is not economically viable - what will we do until spring 2021? In addition, today's decisions must exude reliability towards our strategic partners from business, TV and the media for tomorrow. ”

In the third division , the clubs are literally arguing over whether the 2019/20 season should be stopped or not. The TSV 1860 München is firmly committed to ensuring that play is continued without an audience. Also because the sixties still quietly hope for the climb.

TSV 1860 Munich: Lions absolutely want to end the season in the 3rd league

Initial report of 20 April:  The TSV 1860 Munich and the corona crisis - and the questions: What is next? And when?

The third division wrestles with each other: After the five Bavarian representatives - in addition to the lions, SpVgg Unterhaching, FC Ingolstadt, Würzburger Kickers and FC Bayern II * - had spoken out in favor of continuing the 2019/20 season there is resistance especially from the east of the republic.

Hallesche FC, SV Waldhof Mannheim, 1. FC Magdeburg, SC Preußen Münster, Chemnitzer FC, SG Sonnenhof Großaspach, FSV Zwickau and FC Carl Zeiss Jena are calling for the end of the current season in a position paper. 

And so clubs that are threatened by relegation (Münster, Großaspach, Jena), have screwed up the season (Halle, Magdeburg) or have been determined as direct promoters (Mannheim).

TSV 1860 Munich rejects double-track third division

Recently, a club not mentioned by name even submitted the proposal for a two-  tier third league to  the German Football Association (DFB) . Lion boss Günther Gorenzel, however, strongly rejects this *: “Increasing the  3rd division to 40 clubs would lead to a mix of professional and amateur football and therefore cannot be our goal. The gap to the Bundesliga team would be even bigger. "

After all, the DFB relieved the clubs from the third division in the course of the corona crisis * by relaxing the admission procedure for the coming season. 

According to various media reports, the damage per club is expected to be 1.5 million euros, if the season is canceled, or about 600,000 euros, it will continue with ghost games.

But when it will go on is currently completely open - follow all developments here in the news ticker .

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