"It is never too late to learn that debt is not a good thing," says the former president of Argentina. "It is a bad thing to be in debt," says current President Mauricio Macri.

"We are in the midst of a crisis," says Macri, "and we need to find a way out of this crisis" "It's time to change the way we look at the world," says former President. "The world is not going to be better off if we don't change our way of looking at things"