Jésica Plá is a sociologist, researcher at Conicet, specialist in social classes. She remembers the anecdotes of her grandmother and the Christmas that they took care of her because she threatened suicide.

Norma Plá led the marches for an increase for retirees, consoled the former Minister of Economy Domingo Cavallo and confronted Mikhail Gorbachev. Jésica reflects on the vote for Javier Milei in the popular neighborhoods and rehearses the concept: "The assisted one is the other   . " "How did it come about? It's all Argentine history, of course, of not having anything to eat, of all the social history of the country. It's like a social course of all Argentine social history, all of the social classes, of social structure and the labor market," she says. "I don't know if exactly from '89. She was a girl and I remember a lot because my family had a very bad time in those years," she adds.