Tata Samuel Flores Cruz is the legal representative of his people before the IACHR in the case of the galleon. He believes that the wreck should not be treated as a treasure but as archaeological heritage.

“Spain can take what remains of the ship, the cannons, if they want, but the cargo belongs to the indigenous people’, he says. The interview takes place during a visit to the ship Caribe of the Colombian navy, the mission is to rescue the first pieces of the Galleon in 2024.