She wishes for justice for her daughter and for herself, says Nora B. at the very end of her survey. "I want the Yazidis to get their rights, too."
Since early July, the 47-year-old has been interviewed as a witness in the trial of Jennifer W. before the Higher Regional Court of Munich. This Friday, the court ends its interrogation. "I said everything that happened to me."
The accused Jennifer W. has to answer before the Higher Regional Court Munich for murder by omission, because of IS membership and because of war crimes.
Jennifer W. and her husband Taha A. are said to be responsible for the death of a five-year Yeshid girl. In the summer of 2015, they are said to have caused Rania, the daughter of Nora B., to die of thirst in Fallujah, Iraq. Taha A. is said to have chained the girl in the heat in the yard of her house to a window grille where it died painfully. Jennifer W. should not have done anything to save the child. The couple allegedly kept Nora B. and her daughter captive as slaves.
The whereabouts of Taha A. were unknown to the German authorities for a long time. It was not until May of this year that the Iraqi was caught in Greece. Since then he has been imprisoned in Athens.
In Germany threatens Taha A. a charge of murder
According to the Federal Prosecutor, the delivery of the man now at least legally nothing in the way. This was decided by a Greek court on 12 September in the last instance, said chief prosecutor Claudia Gorf. Now it is up to the government in Athens to decide if and when, when, Taha A. will be brought to Germany.
Taha A. is said to have stated that he wants to stay in Greece. He should have applied for asylum there. In Germany, Taha A. threatens a charge of murder.
The conversation with the FBI informant
In 2014, Jennifer W. traveled from her home town of Lohne in Lower Saxony via Turkey and Syria to Iraq, where she joined the terrorist organization "Islamic State". After the girl dies, her husband is said to have been punished by the IS and banished from Fallujah. Jennifer W. and Taha A. are said to have settled in Turkey. In September 2016, Jennifer W. returned pregnant to Lohne. She wanted to give birth to her child at home.
In June 2018 she returned with her daughter on the way to the IS. She was picked up in Lohne by a man whom she considered an IS sympathizer, in fact it was an FBI informant. For hours they drove in the car through Germany in the south. The car was bugged, every word from Jennifer W. was recorded. Jennifer W. talked about her time at the IS. She also spoke of Rania's death in her house in Fallujah. She was arrested in Bavaria. The 28-year-old is to be a convinced supporter of the IS today.
"We do not know if he comes"
"The Damocles sword Taha A. hangs over us", says the chairman Judge Reinhold Baier on Friday at the very end of the trial day. Because if Taha A. is delivered from Greece to Germany in the foreseeable future, then he must be loaded as a witness in the process against Jennifer W. But whether it comes to that is in the hands of the Greek government, not in the hands of the court. Or as Baier puts it, "We do not know if he's coming, and we do not know when he'll come when he comes."
The judge asks those involved in the process to bring their schedules to the next trial day. He wants to be prepared - as good as possible. But whether Taha A. contribute as a witness to the Enlightenment, is questionable. In court, he should be silent. Since he himself is the defendant in this case, he has the right to refuse any information.
It is a complex case.
Even the questioning of Nora B. has been tedious. The woman has experienced a lot of bad things in her life. From her time as a slave of the IS to report, it was noticeably difficult. She talked about the day her daughter was murdered in the same sentences. The woman was traumatized. Their answers did not always match the questions of those involved in the process. Their information was not always consistent with previous information.
Whether she thought her child was in mortal danger when Taha A. chained her daughter to the window outside, defender Seda Basay-Yildiz finally asked her mother. "No, I've always thought he'll bring her back in. I did not think she was dying by the window," said Nora B. "But she died."
