Party chairman carousel with Anne Will: After last week, the CDU leader Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer and SPD interim chief Malu Dreyer were guests, this time CSU boss Markus Söder, the newly confirmed Greens chairman Annalena Baerbock and FDP leader Christian Lindner discussed on the topic "Between Economic Downturn and Climate Protection - How Safe is Germany's Wealth?". The only non-politician of the round was the energy economist Claudia Kemfert from the German Institute for Economic Research.
The pitch of the evening: In a frotzelige way constructive - not unpleasant after the partly convulsive recent Illner talk about brutalization on the Internet. "Can make your point immediately," denied Christian Lindner about an interruption by Markus Söder, which in turn Anne Willingly ironically titled as "honorary chairman of the Greens" because of his "selfless dedication to the bees", after which Annalena Baerbock offered him a membership application. The different points of view were nevertheless clear.
. @ ABaerbock calls for an investment obligation in Germany. "We are on the brink of recession, and we need a fresh boost for investment." #AnneWill pic.twitter.com/VJJwFTQBHg
- ANNE WILL Talk Show (@AnneWillTalk) November 17, 2019The debt brake controversy: After the Greens' congressional decision to ease the debt brake, which last two of the five economies had also called for because of the stagnant growth, Anne Will raised the issue. Clear against it said Christian Lindner. After all, state-provided investment money is often not called up at all, with 40 billion euros still in the reserve. Instead of new debt, accelerated planning procedures are needed. Similarly, Söder, who preferred to cut corporate taxes and reduce bureaucracy to boost growth. Baerbock pointed out that the Greens wanted to ease the debt brake "only in the context of the European stability criteria". Instead, Claudia Kemfert decided decidedly for state start-up investment "in future markets", then the market will follow.
Ban on fossil combustion engines: While according to plans of the Greens from 2030 only emission-free cars are to be allowed, warned the Bavarian Prime Minister from a "guerilla" against the car. Baerbock defended the congressional decision: This "clear message" was also about "planning security" for the economy, because companies should know in which direction investments were worthwhile. "That will cost many thousands of jobs," predicted Lindner and campaigned to promote synthetic fuels. After all, there are internal combustion engines that can be operated with hydrogen in a carbon-neutral manner. Where did this hydrogen come from, did Claudia Kemfert, using green electricity? In the car sector, the method was "not yet economical," her Baerbock agreed. Söder, meanwhile, gave the droll mediator: "There are great politicians here in the room, so good, but what technology prevails on the world market, we do not decide."
"I wish that we could organize the future # mobility with innovations, but not lead this guerrilla war against the car, because without a car it will be honestly difficult for Germany," says @ Markus_Soeder at #AnneWill. pic.twitter.com/0eiBhC0yno
- ANNE WILL Talk Show (@AnneWillTalk) November 17, 2019The surprise of the evening: Incidentally, he was "not at all against prohibitions," said Christian Lindner, for example, he was for a ban on chicks shredding. In the case of CO2 emissions, however, he insisted on the pure "The market will regulate" teaching: Although he advocated a cap - but then mature consumers and entrepreneurs would have to seek the ways there.
The autarky discussion of the evening: It was "a life lie" to believe "that Germany could be energy self-sufficient ," said Lindner, whereupon Baerbock and Kemfert called him, but nobody believes that. "They set up cardboard mates," Baerbock accused him, of course, one must "think together the European energy market." So why not create "an infrastructure for green hydrogen from southern Europe?", Lindner interjected. So Söder sensed the danger of a double standard: to rely on clean electricity in Germany, but then to buy some from which one did not know where he came from - maybe even from an oil-fired power plant from Poland?
The wind power debate of the evening: In the last third of the program was about wind power - also on the occasion of the current bill by Minister of Economics Peter Altmaier, according to which the minimum distance from wind turbines to houses must be 1000 meters. For this purpose, a wind farm operator was loaded as affected, who described the draft as a "pure disaster", especially in sprawling Schleswig-Holstein. When Anne Will asked the Green Party boss that yes, the Brandenburg Greens would have voted for the distance, Baerbock came briefly to the skitter, but caught again: It was a "small fine difference" that the 1000-meter rule is not for homesteads, but only for villages and towns may apply. Since the Altmaier draft must be corrected. Markus Söder, on the other hand, did not want to get involved in this debate and cited the Bavarian topography: "We have mountains and valleys, with us the wind does not whistle so well." But the sun is shining more in Bavaria, which is why photovoltaics play a more important role.
"It makes no sense to build new wind farms everywhere, when the energy is not used, not transported, can not be stored." @c_lindner at #AnneWill #winding pic.twitter.com/F9Sf7Bqgb6
- ANNE WILL Talk Show (@AnneWillTalk) November 17, 2019The director's note of the evening: "We hold: We are in the middle of a special discussion about wind power," said a visibly annoyed FDP chief, this "direction-hint" he allow himself. Lindner, who would rather have talked about cars, then went to court with the wind force to court: It is "produced on a large scale ghost power," which is not used because lines and memory were missing. "The windless night is a certain problem," Markus Söder assisted him, which Lindner recorded: The "dark recession" was a "huge problem". Nevertheless, Anne Will found a conciliatory conclusion: "We have learned very nice words today."
