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This rating is not everything in life and a wonderful example of this is the comedy series "This and That," which during her short life from November 2019 to January 2020, averaged about three percent, and while failing to produce high viewing percentages, she did manage to establish a The Kalt series and leaving an immediate imprint on the Hebrew language with phrases like: "Lulit", "like this" and "Adi Beatty", and besides the Wetsap groups and social networks, Milel and Tutri captured the academic world of his own was Hefer Valley Regional Council.

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It began when the Academy of Languages ​​released a post titled "This and Not This" that warns of the bad use of the word "this," and on Tuesday, May 19, Dr. Itai Harelp, head of the Sapir College Television Track, offers surfers to join a zoom lecture on the importance of The snap in the face of social politics, or in short - the wisdom of it. There will also be guests - right from the grouping of air-conditioned actress Osheri Sarussi, who plays Milel, and Chen Rutman, who plays Ronando, the terrified promoter.

"It all started with a discussion I had with a friend who said it was a transphobic series," explains Harelp, where the idea for the lecture came from. "Gitit is a kind of drag performance, she speaks a trans language. I tried to make the comparison between it and judgment and at least with my eyes, the phenomenon of judgment is hard to watch. I was trying to figure out for myself where the boundary between the characters goes and why one is legitimate in my eyes and the other not. "

So where do you see the differences between the characters?

"I think the first thing that needs to be addressed is that the image of Arabs in Israel is far more prevalent than the image of trans people. Making Black Pace for an Arab is very common in programs like 'Great Land', and also in Israeli drama and film series. I mean, almost always who Those who played Arabs were Mizrahi and those who played Mizrahi were Ashkenazi, which is a long history of wiping out an entire population.

"Already in the first episode of 'This and That' one finds out that her aunt is Dana International. The one that Dana there gives the trans-speech qualification because she takes part in the matter, it makes fun of her and not her. In addition, Tuti is actually a woman who embodies a woman, never explicitly said she was trans "You were required, while judging, on the other hand, was trying to work on people who are really Arabs. At the beginning, when she was still on the sidelines, it passed, but as soon as the mainstream embraced her and gave her more presence than any other Arab singer, it was already up to me."

Can the series be seen as satirical?

"Satire is usually much more focused on a specific reality. It will usually be about some kind of social injustice that you want to point out. This series does something else, it does not criticize reality, it breaks down reality, takes on the gender divide of men and women or The social divide of Arabs and Jews and its disintegration, whose purpose is not to point to specific injustice, but to human perception, in this respect I can point to "this one" as a series that corresponds to Archie Banker's "Everything Stays in the Family", a series created against racism But what happened is that a lot of Republicans died on the series and they identified with Archie Banker's racist statements and she is very That's exactly because of that weight, not everyone who sees 'this and that' will understand her articulating messages, but they are there, even in the case of Milel's attitude to religion, when one minute she swears she's traditionally and scene after hanging out with eggplant At the Kotel and talking about the sexual tension that exists between her and a friend, here too she breaks down the concept of religious and secular and thus presents things on the spectrum, so there are those who wait six hours and some who wait three hours and there are none at all, all legitimate. "

Can you explain why people are so in love with this series?

"First of all, I think they are terribly connected to Israelis. They serve in the IDF, travel in nature and travel to the Western Wall. There is a kind of escapism in the series, but not in the escape section but as something that lets us laugh at the situation. Today there is a feeling that there are many things that should not be laughed at because everyone is very sensitive and this series shows that you can laugh at things without sensitivity and without tiptoeing on the one hand but also without humiliating and falling into the pit of racism on the other. I, as a viewer, can sit and watch peacefully, without shrinking with the uncomfortable joke about a woman, gay or oriental. "