“Honestly, this is a joke!
Jean-Charles, 47, does not believe in the health measures taken by the government to fight the Covid-19 epidemic.
Not even the turn of the screw announced this Monday by the Paris police prefect, with, in particular, the closure of bars in the capital for two weeks.
According to him, the solution, much more radical, lies elsewhere: we must redefine.
And quick.
“The authorities dance the Madison: it's a blow to the right, a blow to the left.
We limit, but just in certain areas, we close the clubs but not the bars, we close the bars but not the restaurants ... If we want to put a little violent brake, as long as we have no treatment or vaccine , well we stop!
»Considers this director of an associative structure in the Loire.
Last week, a poll published in the Journal du dimanche indicated that 72% of French people would be ready to reconfigure themselves for at least two weeks.
Abroad, large cities, such as New York or Madrid, are now opting for local confinements, by neighborhood.
In mid-September, an entire country, Israel, resumed generalized containment.
"Give yourself the means to move forward"
And in France ?
Sylvie, 58, also considers that the re-containment is inevitable and desirable.
This inhabitant of the Lyon region has her eyes riveted on the epidemic monitoring curves.
And the indicators are not good.
“Tighter measures are not enough.
It pushes the problem away and bogs it down, she believes.
I don't see how we're going to be able to get by if we aren't stricter.
At one point, if we want to move forward, we have to give ourselves the means.
"
Professor of economics-law in a vocational school, Sylvie pleads for confinement during which "all stores would be allowed to drive", "which would preserve a minimum of the economy".
“Or why not containment by zone?
»She suggests.
And to cite as an example Australia, where the millions of inhabitants of Melbourne lived cut off from the world for nearly three months in the middle of the southern winter.
"As soon as you leave high school, you take off the masks"
"Too lax", "too hasty", the deconfinement has been missed, insists the fifty-something.
“We wanted to have summer, that's where we are, abounds Jean-Charles.
The people who don't wear the mask, who say,
it's not that bad
, that's the whole problem.
According to this association manager, the State must "take the place" of citizens who, "alone, are not capable of acting in the direction of society".
“It is the paradox of the ambient discourse.
We know that the virus is active, that we do not know everything about it, and we continue to shop!
In the same way: everyone knows that smoking kills, and that drinking or driving, you have to choose.
And yet traffic accidents fill the pages of the newspapers and smokers continue to die from tobacco.
"
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Chiara, 15, sees it every day after leaving school: “As soon as you step outside, you take off the masks.
We eat at 15, very tight, without the masks ... "With the constant increase in the number of cases, the measures which are hardening, the young Cannes woman said to herself" that only schools remain to be closed ".
“You might as well reconfine yourself right away, that will force people to respect the standards.
"
"My friends tell me that I am paranoid"
Their positions are not unanimous around them.
You only have to take a look on social media to see that the debate is heated.
“But when I explain to my friends that it would be better to protect my mother, who has a heart problem, they understand,” Chiara says.
Her boyfriend's whole family contracted Covid-19 more than two weeks ago.
“We were very scared.
He is barely starting to recover.
Her father is still very tired.
"
Jean-Charles also saw the damage that the disease could cause.
“My family has been affected by Covid-19, in a violent way,” he explains.
My sister was permanently and strongly impacted, my best friend almost stayed there.
What are we waiting for, how many deaths, to apply the brake?
"
Sylvie fears catching the virus from public transport, or from her son who goes to high school.
“My friends say I'm paranoid that another lockdown would cause too much economic damage.
But with other colleagues, we think that the health and economic consequences in the long term will be the same or worse if we do not refine.
"
The Christmas stake
"If we let things evolve without re-containment, the contaminations will be exponential and there will be thousands of deaths," said a Parisian doctor.
This is not just the virus, but also the consequences for other patients: strokes, heart attacks, cancers that are no longer taken care of properly for lack of space and resources, ”he recalls.
For him, “confinement is inevitable”.
“Even if the population respected health measures in the strictest way, they would not avoid generalized confinement, they would push it back.
Only getting an effective vaccine would change that perspective, he explains.
To "limit damage, protect the most vulnerable in the short term, the health system, caregivers, breathe fresh air while waiting for the vaccine", why not re-define?
asked on Twitter Le Doc, a radiologist and forensic pathologist who practices in Normandy, very followed on social networks.
"How about we anticipate for once?"
He said.
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And then there is Christmas, the end of year celebrations.
"Still opportunities for new contaminations if the epidemic is not tamed by then," notes Sylvie.
In a column published in Le Monde on September 26, two Nobel Prize winners in economics proposed to "declare a lockdown" from December 1 to 20 in order to maximize the chances that people can enjoy the end of year holidays.
“December is already too late, judges the teacher from the Lyon region.
If the stores close during this period, it would be catastrophic for their turnover.
We should confine before.
"