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Markus Feldenkirchen:
»When can you be sure for yourself: What is troubling me right now is depression?
I think a lot of people are asking that.
So am I just having a bad day, am I having a bad day all the time?
How did you notice that?
What has to come together so that you can be sure: I have a depression?
Kurt Krömer:
»Well, you differentiate between mild, medium and severe depression.
So a slight depression, you can fix that by doing therapy once a week, one hour.
With moderate depression, you do therapy once a week, plus an antidepressant.
In the case of severe depression, you actually have to go to the clinic immediately because you are unable to live.
In my case, for example, at the end I was completely unable to live, that I thought the only thing left to do was die.«
Markus Feldenkirchen:
»What does that mean?
What did those dark days look like for you?”
Kurt Krömer:
»That I got up in the morning and didn't feel like getting up in the morning.
Well, when I got up in the morning, although I was fit, although I slept a long time, I thought, hopefully it will be evening again soon and I can lie down again.
The symptoms for me, for example, were lack of drive, insomnia, having this constant black blinds in front of my head.
And I just lay there at the end.
Well, I really thought, it can actually only go from this state to death or the good fairy comes, hits something over the head and I'm healthy again."
Markus Feldenkirchen:
»The SPD politician Michael Roth recently made it public in SPIEGEL that he is suffering from burnout and that he needs to retire from time to time.
How important do you think it is that public figures from politics, where there is a particular fear of showing weakness, also speak publicly about what is natural.«
Kurt Kromer:
“I think it's very important, but it doesn't happen.
Now that's a politician, that makes me happy.
So now not that he has a burnout now, but that he deals with it publicly.
But talking about weakness in politics is like talking about being gay in the Bundesliga, I think.
Many would wish for that and say it is no longer a problem these days.
I think Kevin Kühnert once said that in the podcast, that he said it just doesn't work, as a politician you can't talk about weaknesses and was a bit disappointed in Mr Kühnert because I thought you were actually the guy.
I don't wish him any illness either, but he would be the type to say: Watch out, if it's too much for me, I'll just say so.
And I would also like politicians to say:
I can't anymore, I'm just sick.
With the book, for example, I've now said: Well, until I fall dead in the box, I'll talk publicly about depression.
Because I feel, for the first time in my life, that it really makes sense and that it's also very, very, very authentic.
So, based on the book, you can't say that Krömer is a charlatan, that he wasn't depressed at all or that he doesn't even know what that looks like.
So that's the kind of good deed I'd like to do over the next few decades."
that it really makes sense and that it's also very, very, very authentic.
So, based on the book, you can't say that Krömer is a charlatan, that he wasn't depressed at all or that he doesn't even know what that looks like.
So that's the kind of good deed I'd like to do over the next few decades."
that it really makes sense and that it's also very, very, very authentic.
So, based on the book, you can't say that Krömer is a charlatan, that he wasn't depressed at all or that he doesn't even know what that looks like.
So that's the kind of good deed I'd like to do over the next few decades."
Markus Feldenkirchen:
"Looking back, do you think that your alcohol addiction had something to do with your father's alcohol addiction?"
Kurt Krömer:
»Yes, well, in our family we used to drink a lot.
So you're more likely to be noticed if you haven't been drinking.
So this classic thing, well now, today, yes, my circle of friends, the fans know that. But I can still remember days when you didn't drink and then you were asked: What's going on?
Are you sick or are you taking a break?
Well, no one would ever have guessed that you could become addicted to it, that it's a disease that you develop.
And yes, the family already has.
As with smoking.
With us, it used to be normal for people to smoke in the living room, in the kitchen, in the entire apartment.
And at some point you'll grab it yourself.«
Markus Feldenkirchen:
»How was your father when he drank?«
Kurt Krömer:
»Well, unfortunately, my father somehow belonged to the species that then always became aggressive, that is, intolerable, disgusting, disgusting, very unpleasant.
But there are people who get happy then, they cackle like that, I still like them a lot to this day.
But the people who then slip off and then get angry or fuss or just like my father, then he often fought, even like that.
Well that was cruel.«
Markus Feldenkirchen:
"Was it similar for you when you had one in it?"
Kurt Krömer:
»For me, I was very happy.
I was then very, very extroverted, I danced on tables and was able to get a bar party in a good mood, which is otherwise not my style at all sober.
Well, sober, I wouldn't jump on the table anywhere and dance around or entertain 30 people in a bar in any way, I'm more of an introvert.
And in the end it was easy, the depression was so strong that you noticed something wasn't right here.
So this flushing away with alcohol, flushing away the bad mood with alcohol, eventually stopped working.«
Markus Feldenkirchen:
»These are drops, they are really extremely acidic, so not everyone can take it.
I'll start a sentence, you have to complete it in a way that makes sense, if that's possible.
But if you don't feel like the topic or the question, you simply sit out and take one of our monster drops.
If I had to choose between Olaf Scholz and Friedrich Merz as Chancellor..."
Kurt Kromer:
“I don't eat these drops, I swear to you.
I find them both impossible.
Scholz is a snorer, I don't like that at all.
Here we are again at the point that I would like for Scholz to say: Watch out, I don't know how things will continue now either.
But now I have professionals around me and we'll take a look.
But now at this moment I don't know what to do now.
And he always comes across as incredibly arrogant.
Since I'm thinking, do you think we're all stupid or what?
It's a bit like with the parents, the conversations fall silent, when the children come or pssst, we'll talk more tomorrow.
That's how I feel a bit.
And I mean, I'm approaching 50 now.
I'm not in daycare or elementary school anymore.
And at Merz, if you now say
we'll exchange it now, Merz is now chancellor, I think it's bad too.
We don't have the people, it's just like in France that I think there aren't just two French people after all.
Does this presidential election always have to take place between Macron and the blonde witch?
When I think to myself: where are the people?”
Markus Feldenkirchen:
"Who would be your ideal chancellor?"
Kurt Krömer:
Well, if I could decide, if you had asked Scholz, Merz or Habeck, then I would say Habeck.
Habeck is the one, not because I think the Greens are so great, but Habeck is the one who best explains what phase is right now.
Where I have the feeling he is saying he is making an honest announcement.
Because this: Vote for me and then everything will be fine.
I think we have to say goodbye to that.
I also don't want to see any more politicians in marketplaces giving me balloons or roses.
You can really smack them on your hat.”
Markus Feldenkirchen:
"If I had Gerhard Schröder as a guest on my show, my first question would be..."
Kurt Krömer:
»Where are you from?
From which country?
Also invited, we invite them all.
We're so megalomaniac that we invite everyone.
But Herr Schröder didn't even cancel, I don't think."
Markus Feldenkirchen:
"The most unfunny German comedian is..."
Kurt Krömer:
"Well, I'm not saying that, that's presumptuous, everyone has their own taste."
Markus Feldenkirchen:
»Well, then we have it.«
Kurt Krömer:
»Oh!«
Markus Feldenkirchen:
"Can what, right?"
Kurt Krömer:
»I now have five really, really bad comedians in my head, where I think maybe I’ll name one of them and then spit it out.«
Markus Feldenkirchen:
"That I'll get depressed again..."
Kurt Krömer:
»I'm not interested now, because I always say it's something for depressives.
Now all day worrying about whether I'm going to get depressed again or not.
If I were to get depressed, I would know where to go and then I would take care of it when the time came.«
