The Pope speaks of the conflict in Ukraine and stresses that "what must be done" is "free hearts of hatred".
Then he also comments on the reactions to some of his statements: "From the first day of the war until yesterday I have constantly talked about this conflict, referring to the suffering of Ukraine" but he believes that he has not always been understood.
In the conversation with the Jesuits in Kazakhstan, relaunched by La Civiltà Cattolica, he affirmed with an open heart: "I would like to tell you that I do not care that you defend the Pope, but that the people feel caressed by you who are the brothers of the Pope. The Pope does not get angry if he is misunderstood, because I know well the suffering behind him ".
The Pontiff also reports that "when a Ukrainian Catholic bishop came to visit,
I gave him an envelope with my statements on the subject.
I called the invasion of Ukraine an unacceptable, repulsive, senseless, barbaric, sacrilegious aggression… Read all the statements!
The Press Office has collected them ".
The Pontiff also returns to his words on Dugina's death which sparked the reaction of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry which summoned the Nuncio to Kiev.
"After talking about Ukraine, I thought I'd say a word to the suffering of the two peoples, the Ukrainian and the Russian. Because in wars it is the people, the people who suffer. The poor people pay, as always. And this. generates hatred. Whoever makes war forgets humanity and does not look at the concrete life of people, but puts in front of everything interests of part and power. The common people in every conflict are the real victim, who pay for the follies on their own skin Then I also referred to that girl who was blown up.
At this point, everything I had said up to that point was forgotten and attention was paid only to that reference.
But I understand the reactions of the people, because they are suffering a lot. "Francis also recalls his visit to the Russian embassy:" It was an unusual gesture: the Pope never goes to the Embassy.
He receives the ambassadors personally only when they present their credentials, and then at the end of their mission on a farewell visit.
I told the ambassador that I would like to speak with President Putin as long as he left me a small dialogue window. "
He receives ambassadors personally only when they present their credentials, and then at the end of their mission on a farewell visit.
I told the ambassador that I would like to speak with President Putin as long as he left me a small dialogue window. "
He receives ambassadors personally only when they present their credentials, and then at the end of their mission on a farewell visit.
I told the ambassador that I would like to speak with President Putin as long as he left me a small dialogue window. "
"There is a war going on and I think it is a mistake to think that it is a cowboy film where there are good and bad. And it is also a mistake to think that this is a war between Russia and Ukraine and that's it. No: this is a world war. ".
The Pope said this during his trip to Kazakhstan, speaking with the Jesuits.
The conversation is on September 15 and was collected by the director of La Civiltà Cattolica, Father Antonio Spadaro.
The Pope worked on the exchange of prisoners between Russia and Ukraine.
He said this himself in his conversation with the Jesuits on their trip to Kazakhstan in mid-September.
"A military leader who deals with the exchange of prisoners also came, always with President Zelensky's religious councilor. This time they brought me a list of over 300 prisoners. They asked me to do something to make an exchange. I have immediately called the Russian ambassador to see if something could be done, if an exchange of prisoners could be speeded up ", the Pope added in the same conversation.
The Pope will not be going to Kiev anytime soon.
He himself told the Jesuits he met in mid-September in Kazakhstan.
"I sent Cardinals Czerny and Krajewski to Ukraine, who brought the Pope's solidarity. The Secretary for Relations with States, Mons. Gallagher, went on a visit. The Holy See's presence in Ukraine has the value of bringing help and support. It is a way to express a presence. I too had in mind to be able to go. It seems to me that God's will is not to go at this precise moment; let's see later, however, "he said in the same interview.
