For a public work it now takes 17 years, they will have to become four or five.
And with courage you will have to use the machete with the chains that block Italy's development.
Interviewed by Il Messaggero, the defense minister, Guido Crosetto, underlined the need to intervene in depth on bureaucracy.
And to those who criticize the maneuver he replies that not a single euro has been wasted and that we have worked for growth.
On Kiev's request for anti-aircraft systems, he explains that the construction of the sixth Ukrainian decree has not yet begun, but 'if it is possible, we will certainly help them defend themselves', he adds.