"Having children ruins couples", Gwyneth Paltrow discusses the setbacks of parenthood

Having kids is “tough on couples,” Gwyneth Paltrow confessed on the latest episode of her

, which aired January 10.

During a nearly hour-long conversation with singer Katy Perry, the two women discussed their respective psychological and relationship developments.

On the program in particular, motherhood: that of Gwyneth Paltrow since the birth of her two children, Apple, her 18-year-old daughter, and Moses, 16 years old (fruits of her previous union with Chris Martin), and that of Katy Perry , since the birth of her daughter Daisy Dove (whose father is Orlando Bloom), in August 2020.

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Children ruin couples

After briefly confiding in their past romantic relationships, the two women have agreed on the subject of co-parenting.

"I was looking at the data on couples with young children, and it's ruining couples! First exclaimed the actress, divorced from the father of her children since 2014. Well... it doesn't ruin them. not totally, but it's really hard."

Katy Perry for her part, agrees, but insists on the importance for the couple to form a team from the birth of the baby.

“If both partners are willing to do the parenting tasks, it can work, she tempered.

But if one of them doesn't feel concerned about what needs to be done, it can get very complicated."

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The two women also recalled the good sides of their motherhood.

Gwyneth Paltrow, for example, returned to her first meeting with her daughter Apple, after a cesarean delivery.

"When I woke up and saw his big blue eyes, it was like the effect of a sorting machine, suddenly my whole life had reorganized," she said.

And Katy Perry recounts a similar experience: "When I had my daughter, that's when I knew I was 'enough', that I had the right to be where I was. without it being a matter of luck.”

Finally, both agreed that they had never felt alone since the birth of their children.