How close did he get to the female fans? And did they want that? Rammstein singer Till Lindemann. Krudewig/dpa © Malte Krudewig
After the massive allegations against Rammstein singer Till Lindemann, many are wondering whether they should attend the Munich concerts. Read the pros and cons of our editors here.
There will be no parties with fans after the four Rammstein concerts that will take place on June 7, 8, 10 and 11, 2023 at Munich's Olympic Stadium. As reported, Row Zero will also be abolished; the area directly in front of the stage to which young women were invited, who are said to have come together sexually with Till Lindemann at parties with the band afterwards – how voluntarily this ever happened is now being hotly debated. A video by the well-known YouTuber Kayla Shyx is currently being shared tens of thousands of times on the net. In it, the 21-year-old talks about the experiences of those directly affected - and confirms that young girls are selected at the concerts, who should then be available for sexual intercourse with Lindemann. The city of Munich and the organizer Propeller reacted to the allegations, in addition to the closure of Row Zero and the ban on partying backstage, there should be "safe spaces" during the show, places where visitors who feel harassed can retreat. "Awareness teams" are intended to help raise awareness of the issue of sexual assault among concertgoers.
Katrin Basaran. © Michael Westermann
Per concert visit: The presumption of innocence applies!
Do I have to have moral concerns if I go to Rammstein? The insights into the metal band's groupie system are undeniably fierce. Young women are recruited for parties with the Rammstein musicians and especially frontman Till Lindemann. They are given instructions on what to wear, how to behave. The friend has to stay outside, and so does the smartphone. Red flags everywhere! Everything points to this: no children's birthday party is celebrated here. It sounds disgusting what is supposed to have happened then. And of course: no means no! If Lindemann has crossed this line, possibly with the use of narcotics, he must be punished!
But the fact is that no case has been investigated so far. Although new bad stories are told on the net every day, new young fans always find the courage to report on their experiences. And all these accusations would fit only too well with the image of this guy with his crazy look, coarse stature, Teutonic rolled "Rrrr", with his clearly ambiguous lyrics, the penis cannon he rides during the shows – a sex devil, dirty, dirty, somehow perverted. Some texts, which until now were perhaps interpreted as irony, as a hearty gimmick, now generate disgust with what they hear.
No, you don't have to like Lindemann. On the other hand, no one comes across his concerts by chance. What can we do for our daughters, sisters, friends? Educate them, educate them to be self-confident women, wish them an attentive environment. Self-determination is the magic word. And that also applies when it comes to going to concerts. KATRIN BASARAN
Contra concert attendance: No to abuse of power!
Culture editor Katja Kraft © Klaus Haag
The thing that makes you mad as a woman in the debate about Rammstein frontman Till Lindemann is the unspeakable victim/perpetrator reversal. Let's assume for a moment that the accusations against Lindemann are true. Just as the presumption of innocence applies, it should be true to listen to potential victims with an open mind. So there are young women who are addicted to the singer. Groupies, like the Beatles, fainted at the mere sight of their stars. And now imagine that this star invites you to a private party. Naïve to go there? Agrees. But infinitely repulsive to consciously choose them. Every star has a responsibility not to exploit their own power. In other words, not to recruit young women who, fogged by fan love, don't even know what they're getting themselves into. And then how they get out of the situation.
Anyone who is now upset about the naivety of women is always following the same line of argument: Cycling alone through the English Garden at night and being raped? It's your own fault. Wearing a short dress and being raped? It's your own fault. Drinking too much alcohol at the Oktoberfest and being raped? It's your own fault. All these things do not apply to men. But even as a woman, you would like to live in a world where you can assume that men have so much control over their urges that they don't make fun of a woman, simply because she is so pretty and defenseless.
You can now make a disparaging amuse of English expressions such as "awareness teams" and "safer places" – but these facilities are important. So that narcissistic men can no longer get away with their hubris. And all women understand that saying no is okay. It doesn't matter if you've flirted with the guy before. A real man has to be able to deal with the fact that you can change your mind even just before the end. No matter how short the skirt is.
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So to the concert? I wouldn't have gone anyway, I wouldn't do it now. Because it is difficult to separate art and artist from each other when this "artist" writes poetry about sex with a woman immobilized by knockout drops – and it turns out that this was not just a fantasy. As a fan, you should also think about what is appealing about listening to a band that abuses the Holocaust for marketing purposes and fantasizes about sex with unconscious people. KATJA KRAFT
