Bruno Vespa's FORUM IN MASSERIA continues, today at 11 Matteo Salvini
Yesterday it was the turn of the premier, Giorgia Meloni
ESM and stability pact, Meloni attack Europe
by correspondent Michela Suglia
Italy's doubts about the new Stability Pact are there and Giorgia Meloni does not hide them. On the contrary, it starts from there and goes on the attack from Brussels: "I am not convinced about the European Commission's proposal", she says clearly. And it hooks on the lack of an overall picture, its heavy doubts about the ESM. The premier reiterates this in the summer salon of Bruno Vespa who interviews her in his farm in Salento, among prickly pears and rows of vineyards (those of Vespa winemakers, in fact). "I have not changed my mind - is the premise of the leader - It is a theme that it would be stupid to open now, because it is part of a series of tools that must be discussed as a whole". "The ESM is a stigma that risks keeping resources blocked at a time when we are all looking for them. Then it wouldn't be used by anyone." An opinion that does not agree with the European Commissioner Paolo Gentiloni who, with equal clarity, replies: "the failure to ratify the ESM is not good for the country". Giorgia Meloni nevertheless keeps the point in confirming her opposition to the ESM, using words that follow those said to Vespa in December: "As long as I count something, I can sign it with the blood that Italy will not access the Mes". And as then, the debate remains confined to Parliament: on Wednesday the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Chamber will start again the discussion on the bills of the Democratic Party and the Third Pole for the ratification of the bailout fund. But no vote is on the horizon. After all, the government flaunts security and clear ideas about Europe. The premier puts them in line, who for 50 minutes answers Vespa questions in a burst of her estate at the end of '500 a few kilometers from Manduria and transformed into a luxury resort. A year ago, invited to the event as the only opposition leader, Meloni was firm in her ambition to want "a government with the center-right". Now the government's goal is centered and she is the guest star of the event. For its fourth edition, the Vespa forum extends until Sunday and brings to the stage half the government (invited 8 ministers out of 15) and the heads of companies and trade associations. They are the ones who met the premier the night before, at the fish dinner offered by the host. And it is they who applaud it several times the next morning, especially in the passages over Europe. Looking outside Italy, Meloni does not spare criticism and distances himself from the proposed reform of the Stability and Growth Pact: "If you push Member States to invest in some strategic priorities that you give yourself - is the argument - those investments you must recognize them in the rules on governance". While, he recalls, "we are fighting to deduct investments on PNR and ecological transition from the calculation of the debt / GDP ratio. When I am told what the picture is, I will say what I think of the ESM." I distinguish that they also arrive in the phase of a great activism of the Italian government at international tables. Vespa also recognizes this, emphasizing the FdI leader's command of English, so she can talk to other leaders on an equal footing and without interpreters. And it happens on the eve of the trip to Tunis where Meloni will return together with the president of the EU Commission, Ursula von der Leyen. Then to"It is with the work done so far that the first aid package of the Commission should be implemented, which is also preparatory to favoring the agreement with the IMF. I ask Tunisia and the IMF for an approach that is as pragmatic and non-ideological as possible." The leader goes straight on her way even in the national perimeter and, claiming the seriousness and credibility of her government compared to the initial 'owls', takes the opportunity to attack rival Elly Schlein: "I am amazed that the secretary of the Democratic Party says that we are allergic to dissent: if she confuses dissent with authoritarianism, we have a problem". The Dem leader will not be in Manduria, despite being invited. For the opposition, there will be Giuseppe Conte. Determined on the institutional reforms to be made (the direct election of the premier and stability as "indispensable"), she then dwells on the latest femicide, by Giulia Tramontano, which struck her "deeply" also for the death of the child that the woman was expecting and killed by those who "should have loved them both". And it announces the idea of bringing victims or relatives of victims of femicide into schools as witnesses to the next day against violence against women.