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Talk to Anne Will: Debate about shisha bars and a swarming Röttgen

2020-02-24T10:18:05.794Z


Anne Will's talk show after the Hamburg election ended up again in the disaster of Thuringia.


Anne Will's talk show after the Hamburg election ended up again in the disaster of Thuringia.

  • Anne Will on the elections in Hamburg
  • Norbert Röttgen becomes the representative of the CDU
  • In the end it's more about Thuringia

According to Wikipedia, rabulistics is a term for rhetorical "ingenuity" or "word-stealing". A rabulist is someone who "argues in a subtle, petty, bossy manner and often distorts the real facts". The CDU politician Norbert Röttgen has deservedly earned this title on Anne Will's talk show on the subject of “Elections in vulnerable times - how firm is the middle?”

Anne Will (ARD): The country's biggest problem is right-wing terrorism

He did so in strict compliance with his party's CDU decision not to work with either the right or the left. So in a consequent ignorance of the knowledge that right is not the same as left. A finding that should not have been general knowledge of German politicians since the murders of Kassel, Halle and Hanau. But it is not.

As one player showed, even the left-wing minded CSU interior minister Horst Seehofer has now noticed that comparisons between left and right extremists only relativize the fact that the country's biggest problem is right-wing terrorism.

Anne Will (ARD): Röttgen as an excellent example for a hypocrite

Norbert Röttgen, who wants to become the CDU chairman, nevertheless swaggered about the fact that the party of the left was “on Putin's side”, while the CDU was “oriented towards human dignity”. And of course he rejects the "horseshoe theory" that describes this equation - while he continued to propagate it unabashedly (apart from the fact that his chancellor has occasionally been seen alongside Putin and, for the CDU, human dignity occasionally behind profit due to arms sales to terrorist states like Saudi Arabia ...). In a word: Röttgen gave an excellent example for a rabulist (or Pharisee, or also: hypocrite). So the hostess had to explain it to him: "You place right and left in the same effect of your policy."

With Anne Will, the experienced politician became the representative of the "deceptive" Christian Democrats (according to Daniel Günther, Prime Minister of Schleswig-Holstein, CDU). It started with the fact that he claimed the monopoly on the “middle” for his 11 percent drop in Hamburg, even though it was “lost” at the moment. But he had to let Susanne Hennig-Wellsow, the leader of the parliamentary group of the left in the Thuringian state parliament, say that the center was looking for its own parties, and especially in Thuringia it was not the CDU.

Anne Will (ARD): It was again about the election in Thuringia

Ultimately, the show was again about the scandalous choice. Because on March 4 there will be another ballot box, and the federal CDU insists that the Thuringian party friends do not vote for former head of state Bodo Ramelow. They also did not want to turn their own former head of state Lieberknecht into an interim solution, because they fear new elections and thus loss of votes and posts. Röttgen's remark that Ramelow could be confirmed with a simple majority (without CDU votes) in the third round of voting has a peg that makes the proposal appear cynical: Because the AfD's democratic enemies could also vote for Ramelow - which the election would not accept.

Susanne Hennig-Wellsow felt that the CDU had an “active responsibility” to “cure” the disaster it had caused. Robert Habeck, Co-Chairman of the Greens, appealed to the "analytically most" thinking CDU man and told him: "This is ideology, what you do!" The center had always been characterized by a certain pragmatism, but what the CDU do, "is only stubborn".

Anne Will (ARD): "People expect solutions to problems"

Minister of Family Affairs Franziska Giffey (SPD) also saw Anne Will as a threat to democracy in the CDU's lack of willingness to solve problems. "People expect solutions to problems." The CDU must think about how it can again stand for reliability.

"If the roof structure is burning in your home, it is not the right time to look for mold spots behind the washing machine"
Yassin Musharbash rightly demands that the security authorities give priority to combating legal terrorism. #AnneWill

- Robert Heinrich (@RoHeinrich) February 23, 2020

For Yassin Musharbash, Deputy Head of the Investigative Department of "Zeit", new elections in Thuringia are necessary. In any case, he doesn't understand why two thirds of the members of the Erfurt state parliament shouldn't be in for new elections, he said ironically. But he really didn't feel like irony. Because in times like these you have to set priorities. "If the roof structure at your house is on fire, then it may not be the right time to see whether I still have mold stains behind the washing machine," he commented on the bickering about the Thuringia election. And got serious: The important thing now is that you don't leave it at words, as after the NSU murders (whose lack of information is now criticized in almost every talk show - without anything happening).

Anne Will (ARD): 700 Islamists as a threat, but only 53 right-wing extremists

Musharbash, a proven terrorism expert, gave Anne Will the continued blindness of those responsible to legal terrorism with figures: while the responsible authorities listed around 700 Islamists as a threat, they counted just 53 right-wing extremists. Unlike the protection of the constitution and the police, those affected had long since recognized the danger from the right, "at least since Mölln or Solingen". The Minister responded to his question as to why funds for education and prevention programs had been cut back by pointing out that the funds had not been cut but continued. But funding programs in this area are always limited. This is one of the reasons why "we need a law to promote democracy," said Giffey. So far, however, the CDU has braked. Röttgen did not want to admit that.

Robert Habeck went even further: The fear had to be "visibly countered" instead of badly talking hookah bars (as NRW Interior Minister Herbert Reul, CDU) had done. One had to "make the naturalness of Muslim life in Germany a rationale for the state". Yassin Musharbash confirmed the need for change after this "new trauma". And he said it matter-of-factly, but all the more aptly: Without the murders in Hanau there would be enough reason to talk about it.

By Daland Segler

Anne Will (ARD): On the air

Anne Will, ARD, from Sunday, February 23, 9:50 p.m. The broadcast on the net.

Maybrit Illner's ZDF talk show with a special program on the events in Hanau. Guests include Armin Laschet (CDU) and Claudia Roth (Greens).

List of rubric lists: © NDR / Wolfgang Borrs

Source: merkur

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