Christine Lambrecht gave in to the debate about tightening sentences for child pornography. However, further measures are required in the daily topics.
- The abuse case in Münster started a new debate about the sentence for child pornography.
- Justice Minister Lambrecht (SPD) initially defended the current sentence and now gave in (see update of June 11, 3:50 pm).
- In the daily topics , a commentator called for a harsher sentence as well as a preventive measure
Update from June 12, 9:10 am: In the debate about a tougher sentence for child pornography , the CDU and SPD were initially divided. Minister of Justice Christine Lambrecht later gave in and, like the CDU, called for the criminal law to be tightened.
"Only tighten the sentence and quick: problem solved? I'm afraid so obvious, the idea may be first also, so we simply can not do it ourselves , "said Justus Kliss RBB the discussion in the tagesthemen ARD .
Punishing such acts harder is a right move, but it is not a sufficient measure to protect children from abuse. "Do you think that perpetrators, and also perpetrators, are deterred by tougher punishments?" Asked Kliss.
Daily issues after abuse in Münster: Stronger sentences alone are not sufficient
The really important points that need to be addressed are investigative pressure and prevention . Kliss gave examples that could contribute to protection. Pediatricians need legal certainty to be able to exchange information about suspected cases. In schools, daycare centers and sports clubs , the situation could be improved by introducing protection concepts and targeted training of educators.
It also makes sense to strengthen the police investigation work . "We see it in North Rhine-Westphalia. Those who dig more and deeper also bring more to light, ”said Kliss, referring to the success of the police in Münster. A child pornography ring was exposed through intensive investigations . This case had sparked the debate over the sentence.
Lambrecht and the Federal Ministry of Justice had already called for preventive measures on Wednesday (see first report on June 10). In a press conference on Thursday (June 11), Lambrecht particularly emphasized the importance of tightening the sentence . But also went into other measures : "We are obliged to pool all our strengths and explore every possibility that exists to better protect our children. And that includes bringing all responsible actors, investigators, youth welfare offices, the police, the judiciary, and prevention work to the table. ”
"We will fight sexual abuse with all possible means." Federal Minister of Justice Christine Lambrecht on the current cases of abuse. # Child abuse # Münster pic.twitter.com/I2AxbqDphZ
- Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection (@BMJV_Bund) June 11, 2020Justice Minister changes course: She is now for higher penalties for child abuse and child porn
Update of June 11, 3:50 p.m .: Federal Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht is now in favor of tougher punishments for child abuse and child pornography . “Acts like the terrible case in Münster are serious crimes. The highest penalties known to German law apply here, ”the SPD politician told the editorial network Germany (RND) . She also wanted harsher punishments for cases of sexual abuse that were not associated with physical violence and abuse. “These are, for example, touching children in a sexual way. The law must clearly state that these are crimes without ifs and buts, ”said Lambrecht.
According to the Criminal Code, crimes must be punished with at least one year imprisonment, for offenses there may be lower prison terms or fines. The Union has been under pressure in recent days, calling for a change in criminal law to make child abuse a crime and to increase penalties related to child pornography. Lambrecht initially rejected the demands and received a lot of criticism.
After massive criticism, SPD Minister of Justice Christina Lambrecht changes her course.
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The Justice Minister is now also advocating for more severe punishments in the area of child pornography . This is always associated with child abuse. “I want perpetrators who earnestly disgracefully make money from child pornography or who operate criminal exchange rings to be punished more severely. It is a heinous crime to make money from child abuse - and it must be punishable by up to ten years in prison. ”
So far, production and distribution have been documented for a maximum of five years, unless the perpetrators act "commercially or as a member of a gang". Then there is already a threat of up to ten years.
CDU State Minister increases pressure on child porn: "That the Justice Minister does not come from the curd ..."
Update of June 11, 11:11 p.m .: Federal Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht (SPD) is partly sharply criticized in the debate about the sentence for various forms of child abuse. Now she wants to launch a dialogue on protection against child abuse "that brings all the key players together". The SPD politician told the Passauer Neue Presse on Thursday that combating child abuse and child pornography was "a task that we can only do together". She further added that the topic was too serious for attempts at political profiling.
After abuse of Münster: Justice Minister wants to initiate dialogue
In addition to Johanns-Wilhelm Rörig, the federal abuse officer, the group of participants in the planned dialogue forum should also include practitioners from the police, courts and youth welfare offices . "Of course I will also invite Federal Minister of Family Affairs Giffey and Federal Minister of the Interior Seehofer," announced Lambrecht.
She also emphasized that the abusers were becoming more and more perfidious. Therefore, the investigative options against child pornography in social networks are currently being tightened . "Then the social networks not only have to delete child pornography as before, but also report it to the Federal Criminal Police Office. This is provided for in my bill , which we will now pass very quickly in the Bundestag, ”assured Lambrecht.
CDU General Secretary Paul Ziemiak meanwhile renewed the Union's demand for higher penalties on Thursday . "In my opinion, there are no particularly easy cases of child pornography," he said on Deutschlandfunk. Possession and trade in child pornography is always a crime, even if only one file is sold or downloaded. With regard to special cases - such as the case where a 14-year-old kisses a 13-year-old - Ziemiak said: "There is an option under German law to rule out such blatant cases." Would not recognize case.
After abuse scandal in Münster: NRW Interior Minister Reul increases pressure
Update of June 11, 9.47 a.m .: North Rhine-Westphalia's Interior Minister Herbert Reul (CDU) has shown a clear edge in the debate about the sentence for child abuse. “ To me, sexual abuse is like murder . This ends children's lives - not physically, but psychologically, ”he told the RedaktionsNetzwerk Deutschland on Wednesday. He urges after the news of a shocking case of child abuse in Munster now on the manufacture and distribution of child pornography as a crime no more, an offense classified . The main suspect in the current case from Münster had two previous convictions because of child pornography possession.
NRW Interior Minister Herbert Reul calls for harsher penalties for the production and distribution of child pornography material.
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After abuse of Münster: Reul criticizes Federal Minister of Justice
"If the production and distribution of abuse images is still punished in the same way as shoplifting, then I lack any understanding for it," criticizes Reul. “Then I am no longer interested in whether this is right or wrong in a legal system. That is I do not care "Already about a year ago -. In July 2019 - was in was decided Innenministerkonferenz , classify child pornography as a crime and not more than offense. “At the conference the following December, we reaffirmed it again. And I have to say: The fact that the Federal Minister of Justice doesn't come out of the curd is annoying, ”Reul continues.
According to Federal Minister of Justice Christine Lambrecht (SPD) , 15 years of imprisonment and safekeeping in the event of child abuse are not just on paper. In an interview with the Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung , she cited the Lügde case as an example , in which "this sentence was almost exhausted". "This is one of the highest penalties our legal system knows," emphasized Lambrecht.
She rejected requests for sharper questions . It is more important to give the investigators more options and to equip them well, said the SPD politician (see first report). "That works in NRW," added Lambrecht. With regard to the legal classification of the acts, NRW's Interior Minister Reul said: “I expect the German government to do something. And Ms. Lambrecht is responsible. "
After abuse scandal in Münster: CDU representatives call for stricter laws
First report from June 10, 2020:
Berlin - The Federal Ministry of Justice has responded to the request to extend the sentence for child pornography. Stricter laws alone, as CDU politicians call for them, would not be enough to better protect children.
The Ministry of Justice and the SPD should “finally give up their blockade against an increase in punishment . That is unacceptable, ”criticized the deputy CDU chairman and member of the Bundestag Silvia Breher on Wednesday (June 10). The dispute over the tightening of sentences had been sparked by a case in Münster. The police could blow up a child pornography ring.
After abuse scandal in Münster: CDU demands harsher sentence
Breher demanded: "In a first step, we urgently need tougher penalties for the possession and distribution of child pornography material." The measures already decided were not enough . In addition, EU data storage in line with EU law is imperative.
"It cannot be that in thousands of cases we cannot pursue perpetrators because connection data has to be deleted due to data protection regulations." This is "not only a slap in the face of the victims and affected families, but also of the investigative authorities". Paul Ziemiak and Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer also support this position.
Abuse in Münster: GroKo dispute over sentence for child pornography - CDU and SPD disagree
Federal Minister of Justice Christine Lambrecht (SPD) opposed this. She had told the Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung that the blanket call for an abstract tightening of criminal law in child pornography was no longer effective. The offense also includes the one-off posting of a child pornographic comic.
"If we classify this unique behavior as a crime - that means a minimum prison sentence of one year - there would be no way to respond appropriately." Child abuse is one of the highest sentences available - up to 15 years plus preventive detention . “It is more important to give investigators more options and to equip them well. That works in NRW. "
In a tweet, Paul Ziemiak, Secretary General of the CDU, calls: "class abuse as a crime, not just a crime". However, Lambrecht had not dismissed abuse as an offense. Sexual abuse of children is a crime and punishable under Section 176 of the Criminal Code . Child pornography is considered an indirect form of sexual abuse and is therefore also punishable, explains the Federal Criminal Police Office on its website. Lambrecht defended only one-off abnormalities.
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Child abuse: Groko cannot agree on a punishment
A spokeswoman for the Federal Ministry of Justice supported Lambrecht's statements. Measures are continually being examined on how children can be protected even more effectively, including criminal law. However, tightening the sentence cannot be a panacea for everything.
It is important to look at various measures. The spokeswoman called prevention , increased awareness around children and investigative powers and police and judicial equipment , the spokeswoman said on Wednesday (June 10).
There is always tension in the grand coalition. Saskia Esken caused irritation with the Union with her Antifa tweet.
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