Nationwide Testing and Interview｜Hu Dingxu: The government has changed, but there are no details in favor of the provisional health code

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Written by: Cheng Cuibi McKay

2020-08-15 09:03

Chief Executive Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor announced on Friday (7th) that voluntary testing will be launched two weeks later, but has yet to explain the details. The Huasheng Diagnostic Center under the "National Team" Huada Gene is one of the responsible agencies. Chairman Hu Dingxu revealed in an exclusive interview with "Hong Kong 01" that the government was originally scheduled to finalize the plan yesterday (14), but temporary changes are still unknown. arrangement. He pointed out that the laboratory of the Sun Yat-sen Memorial Park Gymnasium needs to have hundreds of employees in shifts, and the inspection personnel sent from the mainland and the employees hired by Hua University in Shenzhen have the opportunity to work there.

Hu Dingxu believes that national testing can help identify invisible patients and prepare for Hong Kong’s reopening of the border. He also agrees with the establishment of political parties’ proposal to introduce a "health code" that allows citizens who test negative for national testing to take public transportation to Meals in the restaurant. Regarding BGI being sanctioned by the United States for human rights issues in Xinjiang, he said that it belongs to the head office and does not comment.

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Hu Dingxu believes that national testing can help identify invisible patients and also prepare for Hong Kong to reopen the border. (Photo by Yu Junliang)

The government's plan "changes and changes" has yet to know the details

Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor announced earlier that it would engage a company formed by BGI, Golden Mile, and Cap to implement "universal community testing," which is a voluntary nationwide testing, but the details are yet to be determined. Hu Dingxu, chairman of Huasheng Diagnostics Center under Huada Gene and former chairman of the Hospital Authority, revealed in an exclusive interview that the government had finalized the plan yesterday (14), but it was "revised and changed very sharply." Could not get the details of the plan.

BGI Shenzhen employees, the national team or come to Hong Kong for assistance

However, on the other hand, the 16 air film laboratories set up by BGI at the Sun Yat-sen Memorial Park Gymnasium are about to open. Yesterday (14), Hu Dingxu said that the laboratory will operate 24 hours a day and requires the assistance of hundreds of employees. When asked how many employees Huasheng currently has and how many people need to be hired, he said that he is not clear, "Hua University has its own people in Shenzhen, maybe the national team will help us." He will arrange Huasheng if necessary. Employees from Greater Shenzhen came to Hong Kong to assist in data entry and barcode processing in the laboratory or logistics department.

The SAR government selected the Sun Yat-sen Memorial Park Gymnasium in Sai Yingpan for BGI to set up a temporary air film laboratory. (Photo by the Information Services Department)

Still undecided on deep throat saliva, nasopharynx or throat swabs

Nationwide testing will use deep throat saliva or nasopharyngeal and throat swab samples; samples taken by citizens themselves or with the assistance of medical staff are unknown. Hu Dingxu said that in May, in order to go to Beijing to participate in the "National Two Sessions", doctors and nurses took throat samples, and he tried to take samples on his own five times. Sweep multiple times, and it is handy without using a mirror for the second and third sampling. He bluntly said that he did not feel uncomfortable in the process, "Maybe I am used to doing things well, I find it easy."

Laboratory can distinguish invalid samples

Some experts questioned that if the public fails to collect accurate samples, the test will have false negatives. Hu Dingxu believes that the government should take care of the needs of children, the elderly and other people, and may consider setting up sampling stations with specialized personnel to assist in sampling. He emphasized that if citizens cannot collect valid samples, laboratory personnel can tell the difference, and they will be required to submit a new sample.

　Hu Dingxu said with a smile that when he took a throat sample on his own for the first time, he had to open his mouth in front of the mirror and sweep the "bell" on the left and right sides of his throat several times. He demonstrated to reporters how to locate the "bell". (Photo by Yu Junliang)

Tai Po Laboratory focuses on high-risk groups

Hu Dingxu quoted some literature stating that swab samples are more secure than deep throat saliva and easier to be mixed for testing. "You can get all saliva, but you need to dilute it first." The laboratory equipment of the Huasheng Diagnostic Center can test two samples. , The final choice of which sample is determined by the government.

At present, Huasheng can do a maximum of 130,000 tests per day. He pointed out that if the "five-in-one" mixed test is used, it can be increased to 500,000 daily tests. However, it may use the "three-in-one test" for high-risk groups. "form. In addition, Huasheng's laboratory in the Sun Yat-sen Memorial Park Gymnasium will focus on national testing, while the testing center in Taiping Industrial Park in Taipu will focus on high-risk group testing.

Identify invisible patients to help the outside world rebuild confidence in Hong Kong for customs clearance

Hu Dingxu believes that national testing can help identify invisible patients and also prepare for Hong Kong to reopen the border. He explained that at the beginning of the year, the public would be afraid to come into contact with people from Wuhan, but when Wuhan completes the national test, it can be reassuring, "(If) we have 6.5 million people doing it, in fact, there are 30, 50 (diagnosed) (Or), (even if there are) 100 of them are fine, but 100 of them will come out to isolate them... Everyone has confidence in those who go out in Hong Kong."

Still unknown testing fee

When asked whether it is worthwhile for the government to spend huge resources to find dozens of patients, Hu Dingxu believes that even if there are only dozens of invisible patients, if they are not found, the number of confirmed diagnoses may rise exponentially, which is enough to collapse the medical system. There are voices in the community questioning the government's "hand-appointed" three mainland institutions, which are sprinkling money to provide testing, and they are suspected of transferring benefits. Hu Dingxu responded, "Everyone doesn't know how much money is used because it is supported by the central government."

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As for some people’s concerns about testing agencies sending citizens’ personal data or genes to the mainland, he reiterated that samples of Huasheng tested positive will be handed over to the Department of Health, and negative samples will be destroyed. There is no need to send anything out of Hong Kong; but he said frankly The public’s suspicion is a question of confidence. "In the end, it’s hard to tell. I hope you don’t wear colored glasses to see domestic companies."

Two of BGI's subsidiaries have been included in the entity blacklist by the US Department of Commerce, alleging that they are suspected of compulsory collection of Xinjiang Uyghur genes for research in order to further suppress Uyghurs. The incident caused some Hong Kong people to lose confidence in Huasheng. Hu Dingxu responded: "I don't know this one. It doesn't matter to me. It is from the headquarters of Huada. No comment."

Support the health code "Beijing has a code to get to the subway first"

Some established political parties proposed to introduce a "health code" that allows citizens who test negative for the national test to eat in restaurants in order to revitalize the economy. Hu Dingyu agreed. Will the public become infected in public places without knowing it, and then spread the virus in restaurants? He took Beijing as an example. "If you have a health code, you can enter a restaurant first. If you have a health code, you can take the subway. In Beijing, you can go to a community or a building. You can enter without a health code.

However, he emphasized that the health code can only be a short-term measure, and the arrangement can be revoked when the epidemic drops to a low level.

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