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Interview丨Promote "Lazarus Project" Business Hong Kong's future Dai Yaoting hopes to resolve the differences between the locals and the pan-people

2020-09-27T23:14:50.763Z

The "New Testament" records that Lazarus spent four days in the tomb after his death, and was finally saved by Jesus Christ, miraculously died and resurrected. Dai Yaoting, a former associate professor at the Faculty of Law of the University of Hong Kong, recently proposed the "Lazarus Project", which implies hope for the rebirth of Hong Kong. Today is the sixth anniversary of the 928 incident of the Occupy Movement. In an exclusive interview with "Hong Kong 01", Dai Yaoting further explained the reasons and details of the "Lazarus Project." He pointed out that the plan hopes to recruit about 4,000 people to discuss the future blueprint of Hong Kong, hoping to reflect and gain in the process. Dai Yaoting emphasized that the plan will not discuss Hong Kong's status and constitutional issues. It will focus on the vision and will not "step on the red line." "When God closes a door, he will open another window for you." Six years have passed since the occupation, Dai Yaoting has not given up on promoting Hong Kong's democratic development. Removal of his status as a university lecturer, he said that in the future, the district will hold community workshops and research on legal culture, hoping to focus on education work through the "Railway Project."



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Written by: Luo Jiaqing

2020-09-28 07:00

Last update date: 2020-09-28 07:00

The "New Testament" records that Lazarus spent four days in the tomb after his death, and was finally saved by Jesus Christ, miraculously died and resurrected.

Dai Yaoting, a former associate professor at the Faculty of Law of the University of Hong Kong, recently proposed the "Lazarus Project", which implies hope for the rebirth of Hong Kong.

Today is the sixth anniversary of the 928 incident of the Occupy Movement. In an exclusive interview with "Hong Kong 01", Dai Yaoting further explained the reasons and details of the "Lazarus Project."

He pointed out that the plan hopes to recruit about 4,000 people to discuss the future blueprint of Hong Kong, hoping to reflect and gain in the process.

Dai Yaoting emphasized that the plan will not discuss Hong Kong's status and constitutional issues. It will focus on the vision and will not "step on the red line."

"When God closes a door, he will open another window for you."

Six years have passed since the occupation, Dai Yaoting has not given up on promoting Hong Kong's democratic development.

Removal of his status as a university lecturer, he said that in the future, the district will hold community workshops and research on legal culture, hoping to focus on education work through the "Railway Project."

Dai Yaoting hopes that the "Lazarus Project" will bring two Outcomes (results), one is the blueprint for the future of Hong Kong, and the other is the reflection of the participants during the participation process.

(Data Picture/Photo by Liang Pengwei)

Six years ago today, the Occupation Movement broke out under the smoke of tear gas and became a key historical turning point in Hong Kong. Six years later, things have changed. Today’s Dai Yaoting has lost his chair due to the Occupation Movement, but “gets” a new one. Conception-"Lazarus Plan".

Dai Yaoting said in the interview that the "Lazarus Project" is similar to the second round of Occupy Central Japan, which is also carried out in an open-ended (unrestricted) way, but the plan will not have specific actions like the Occupy Movement.

Dai Yaoting said that the topic of discussion will not be "definitely too deadly." Participants can freely express their opinions on the future of Hong Kong, emphasizing that the plan is still in its preliminary stages and will communicate with facilitators and psychologists later.

Dai Yaoting hopes that the plan will bring two Outcomes (results). One is a blueprint for the future of Hong Kong, including discussions on specific policies and increasing community participation. The other is the reflection of participants in the process of participation and hopes to deal with everyone’s emotions. It also allows everyone to learn "the spirit of discussion."

He also pointed out that the topic may be unconstrained, but the most important thing is to give everyone a chance to fully express.

Dai Yaoting emphasized that the plan will not discuss Hong Kong's status and constitutional issues. It will mainly focus on Hong Kong's future and will not "step on the red line."

It is expected that the plan will be implemented in half a year to a year  

without setting a dead line and slowly consolidating

Regarding whether there will be further actions after the discussion, Dai Yaoting said that it will depend on the progress of the plan. "Something new may be derived. No one can say that this will not happen."

He believes that there is no need to rush to implement the plan, as different directions and different ideas need to be discussed during the preparation process. It is expected that it will take more than half a year to a year to implement.

Dai Yaoting reiterated that there is no specific action in the plan, so there will be no dead line. I believe that it will be more effective to slowly condense.

The idea of ​​"Lazarus Project" started after the Occupy Movement. Dai Yaoting bluntly stated that the social situation at that time "has not reached a single position", so the Thunder Plan and Fengyun Plan were launched at that time, hoping that the democrats could win in the two-level parliamentary elections. breakthrough.

However, there are no elections now. He thinks it is time to implement the plan. "The benefits to be achieved by the election of 35+ have been achieved. We often say that we want to take over. Now we don’t need to "take over", they (the government) have already "taken over". The elections are gone, but they have all attracted international attention."

Dai Yaoting said that the plan is now easier to "land". After the district council elections hit the establishment, the democrats have mastered many strongholds at the regional level. In addition, there are also knowledgeable groups outside the region, combining the regional and professional levels. "Give us a basis for this form of discussion, and we can weave everyone together with different threads."

Dai Yaoting believes that the occupation movement is a succession of the past, "inheriting the previous social movement, and driving the entire protest movement from a legal struggle to a civil disobedience."

(Information Picture/Reuters)

The Occupation Movement "connects the past and the future", the local people and the pan-people need time to build trust

Many people believed that the Occupy Movement six years ago gave birth to the anti-revision movement a year ago.

Dai Yaoting described that the role of the occupation movement is to "inherit the previous social movement, drive the entire resistance movement, and transform from legal struggle to civil disobedience."

In the anti-amendment campaign, the pro-democracy supporters advocated the policy of "no separation between peace and courage." However, following the announcement by the government to postpone the Legislative Council election for one year, the local faction and the traditional pan-democrats diverged on the issue of whether to stay.

Dai Yaoting said frankly that after the Occupation Movement, the two factions were in a state of mutual distrust. "The anti-regulation movement has established some (trust), and the primary election has established some (trust), but this trust is not solid and will not be torn." He said that everyone has different approaches to handling the current situation and it takes time to re-establish trust. Therefore, he hopes that the discussion of the "Lazarus Project" can deal with distrust, strategic differences and disputes arising from both sides in the long run. It should be like this. Don’t have the same voice, so I don’t think it’s a bad thing.”

The face of national security laws 

to wear: do not do nothing,

but will not touch the red line

The political environment has undergone drastic changes in the past six years. Dai Yaoting does not hesitate to say that the space for the democratic movement has been narrowed, and the price that participants have to pay is increasing. "When the people of Hong Kong are determined to fight for democracy, the suppression will be even greater, but the suppression will be even greater. People will fight for it more firmly."

He said that although there was a low ebb during the period, the anti-revision movement and the democratic primary elections reflected that Hong Kong people were still striving for democracy until the "Hong Kong District National Security Law" was implemented, and the democrats suffered increased suppression and resistance.

Dai Yaoting described this situation as an "internal vicious circle."

In addition to the internal cycle, Dai Yaoting pointed out that Hong Kong is also experiencing an "external vicious cycle." When Beijing's suppression increases, the attention of foreign countries will increase. These two cycles reflect that there is less room for resistance in Hong Kong.

"But I think Hong Kong people's place is creative. There is no space. There can be other spaces. If you can't squeeze the toothpaste in one place (toothpaste comes out), it will squeeze out in another place."

After the pro-democracy primaries, the Liaison Office of the Central Committee and the Hong Kong and Macao Affairs Office strongly criticized the purpose and behavior of the primary election.

Facing the arrival of the "Hong Kong National Security Law", Dai Yaoting said that he would not touch the red line, but would not do nothing because of the red line. "If they do nothing because of the red line, they will achieve their goal of using threats to stop people from doing things." .

In the rapidly changing political situation, Dai Yaoting said that while continuing the democratic movement, he would avoid giving the government an excuse to accuse them of breaking the law.

Dai Yaoting also pointed out that if the government wants to suppress him, the cost will increase. It will bear the pressure of internal governance as well as the pressure of sanctions from foreign societies.

Dai Yaoting believes that "when the people of Hong Kong are determined to fight for democracy, they will be more suppressed, but if the suppression is greater, people will be more determined to fight for it."

(Profile picture)

Into the community to run workshops to  

focus on legal education in the future

In early March of this year, Dai Yaoting made the statement that "the rule of law is dead." This statement came from legal scholars, and many people were surprised.

Dai Yaoting said that at that time this idea was derived from the issue of police power and the "Hong Kong National Security Law." He felt that it was not just "the rule of law is dead," but also reduced to "the rule of law zombies."

He also said that when he talked with students from the University of Hong Kong earlier, some students asked why the rule of law still needs to be educated since "the rule of law is dead." Dai Yaoting bluntly stated that it is precisely because of education that the rule of law has a chance to be reborn. "It cannot be said that the rule of law is dead. Ignore it."

After removing his status as a university lecturer, Dai Yaoting will host community workshops and research legal culture in the district.

He did not violate his words, "After the occupation of the Central Committee until the (this year's democrats) primaries, he stood ahead." With the end of the election, he instead hopes to focus on education through the "Railway Plan".

What will happen in the future?

Dai Yaoting said with a smile, "If you have done enough, you should stop, and then count, but I'm still young."

Dai Yaoting, who has always adhered to his beliefs, walked out of the ivory tower in Kennedy Town and walked into the platform of private areas. He will continue to "sow seeds" in different fields.

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Dai Yaoting

Source: hk1

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