In an interview about the coronavirus pandemic, the Bavarian Minister of the Interior, Herrmann, advocates using caution instead of loosening up too quickly.
Munich - The Lord of the rules, regulations and controls: in the
corona crisis
has
Bavarian Interior Minister Joachim Herrmann
(CSU) a key role.
The 64-year-old explains
Bavaria's
cautious course, but also announces easing for sport and culture.
Münchner Merkur: govern
in a state of emergency: happy or depressing for a seasoned interior minister?
Joachim Herrmann: There can be no question of luck.
Those were months with high psychological and physical stress.
We truly had to make existential choices that affect life and death.
What action was necessary, where do you think: Oh, we exaggerated?
We all learned a lot.
In February we knew next to nothing about the virus, but we saw the terrible pictures from
Bergamo
.
Overall, the restrictions were correct in order to keep the infections within limits.
At the same time we were able to experience that
Germany has
the best
health and hospital system
at least in Europe.
An example: we have six times as many intensive care beds for the population as Great Britain.
Empty intensive care beds.
We have
cleared
beds for
Corona *
patients
nationwide
.
The clinics have implemented this excellently.
Thank God not that many patients came.
That is certainly a point that we have learned for the coming winter: We do not have to evacuate the clinics prophylactically, but can react quickly and flexibly.
Italy imposes a general mask requirement
for the whole country.
Is that also for Bavaria
conceivable?
I don't see that.
We have to do everything we can to keep the
number of cases
within limits.
But the strategy is: local instead of
lockdown
.
We do not need
Bavaria-wide
obligation to
mouth and nose protection
, but must respond locally.
For me it was interesting how it
helped
in
Munich
when the numbers in the city soared.
Within a week of the mayor's order that
masks be required
in the pedestrian zone, the trend
reversed
.
The message has arrived: people, watch out now.
Most of them obviously respected that.
Corona infections are increasing more slowly in Germany - Herrmann sees the reason for easing
In Europe
the numbers shoot up, at first only moderately.
Are we Germans?
more disciplined?
Or better governed?
Both.
The measures were just right, as was the cautious approach to the
easing
.
I do not presume to judge governments in France, Spain and the Czech Republic.
But I see: The
Corona *
rules
were quickly
scaled
back there, and now the state suddenly has to take massive action again.
We remain careful.
And the majority in our country has been saying for months *: Better
security
than more Halligalli.
In the city of Berlin the numbers are increasing significantly. Are you quarreling with the crisis management of the authorities there?
The situation is generally more difficult in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.
People live closer together, their leisure time behavior is - I'll put it carefully - more intense.
The apartments are smaller.
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The real question was about Berlin ...
The city has to react and is doing it now.
The
blocking times
are necessary and must then be consistently monitored.
Stadiums and halls are slowly filling up again. Does it work - or does the Minister of Sport have a stomachache?
So far I have only received positive reports, also from the police and
health authorities
.
The clear ban on alcohol in stadiums is effective, as does the waiver of ticket contingents for away fans.
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Coronavirus: Joachim Herrmann thinks Bavaria's handling of the pandemic makes sense
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The clubs are already calling: More than just 20 percent of the seats! Is there anything going?
First of all, it is important to me that the number of
infections
* in
Munich
goes down so that spectators are again possible here.
I very much hope that we will be able to
accommodate fans in the arena again
before
Bayern's
Champions League game
on October 21.
At the end of October we will then take stock of how the admission of viewers worked.
The way things have been done so far, maybe we can then go a step further, a few percent more viewers.
But I say clearly: As soon as something is out of control and tape device, loosening is taken back.
More fans in the stadiums - are you also interested in more spectators at the opera?
The
test run is currently underway in the State Opera
in
Munich
with 500 visitors.
According to what Art Minister Bernd Sibler tells me, it works in an absolutely orderly manner.
We will also look more closely at individual cases in culture: Opera or rock concert, how high is the ceiling, how strong is the
ventilation
?
We didn't have the time or experience for that in April / May.
Now we have both.
Corona requirements in Bavaria: Herrmann believes that relaxation is possible
There are also relaxations
for church services?
We are currently talking about this, especially with a view to All Saints' Day.
Here, too, we should
differentiate
between
upper limits
according to
risk
: People behave a little differently at a wedding than when they visit the grave.
A party-political question. Your boss Markus Söder: Does he have what it takes to be a candidate for chancellor?
Yes, in any case.
You can see it that way everywhere in
Germany
now
- he
managed
this
crisis
superbly, including as chairman of the
conference of prime ministers
.
You want to praise him and Prime Minister
will.
No certainly not.
It's not up for debate anyway, because he clearly says his place is in
Bavaria
.
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