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Climate scandal on "Hart aber fair" (ARD): Activist talks himself in a rage - then Plasberg suddenly shows an old photo of him

2020-11-17T21:04:32.453Z


Is the energy transition in Germany on the right track? This is a heated question in “Hard but Fair”.


Is the energy transition in Germany on the right track?

This is a heated question in “Hard but Fair”.

  • Hannes Jaenicke

    : “There is no such thing as an energy transition.

    Politicians only talk. "

  • Entrepreneur

    Dirk Spenner

    warns: "We have to ensure that our industry does not collapse on the world market."

  • Climate activist Carla Reemtsma

    : "It's not just about the polar bear, but about the livelihoods of threatened people."

Cologne - Climate change is heating up people.

Even if he is currently not in the conversation like Corona.

Climate activist Carla Reemtsma and Hannes Jaenicke demand more responsibility from politics.

A wind turbine protest is almost fatal for Jaenicke.

The guests:

  • Ralph Brinkhaus (CDU)

    - chairman of the CDU / CSU parliamentary group since September 2018

  • Antje Boetius

    - Director of the Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research

  • Hannes Jaenicke

    - actor, author of numerous nature and environmental documentaries

  • Carla Reemtsma

    - student, climate activist, co-organizer of the “Fridays for Future” demos

  • Dirk Spenner

    - entrepreneur, head of the family business Spenner Zement

“Hard but fair”: Brinkhaus wants to take people with it

Environmental activist Hannes Jaenicke drives the CDU parliamentary group leader Ralph Brinkhaus in front of him: “Agricultural turnaround?

Doesn't exist.

Traffic turnaround?

Doesn't exist.

Charging columns for electric cars?

A catastrophe. ”And adds:“ Germany should be CO2-neutral by 2050.

It's just talk… ”Brinkhaus admits:“ We may not have done enough, but we haven't done anything. ”And counts:“ We now have better tax rates for company cars if they are electric.

We are expanding the charging stations.

We introduced CO2 pricing, launched a climate protection program ... "He also makes it clear:" If we don't take people with us in the fight against climate change, we will lose this process ... "

"If we don't take people with us in the fight against climate change, then we've lost this process."

The chairman of the @ cducsubt parliamentary group @rbrinkhaus (@CDU) at #hartaberfair @DasErste on the topic of #climate change.

pic.twitter.com/8ABGo7FkW4

- tough but fair (@hartaberfair) November 16, 2020

Jaenicke adds on the subject of wind power and the 10-H rule: “The Union has massively slowed down the energy transition.” Moderator Plasberg supposedly condemns Jaenicke to double standards: A photo shows him campaigning against a wind farm in Reinhardswald.

Jaenicke squirms: "But only because a mixed forest is to be cleared for this ..." Which is not entirely true, because there are apparently broken spruce trees.

Jaenicke: “The forest is our most important CO2 store.” Still, a little treat remains.

"Hard but fair" - marine biologist Boetius warns: "If things continue like this, the Arctic will be ice-free in 70 years"

Boetius carried out a successful mission with the Polarstern expedition in the Arctic.

With a terrifying result: “The Arctic is now ten degrees warmer than Fridtjof Nansen experienced.” And: “If we continue like this, we will be the last generation to see an ice-covered Arctic in summer.” Carla Reemtsma gives the Youth have one voice - and urges them not to make any further compromises: "The 1.5 degree target in Paris is the relevant compromise." Objectively but passionately, she strings together the facts: "Millions of people are threatened in their existence, In Germany we have over 50 billion in climate-damaging subsidies, diesel privileges, kerosene tax exemption ... ".

"Nothing happened in the automotive sector," says #climate activist and co-organizer of @ FridayForFuture-Demos @carla_reemtsma at #hartaberfair @DasErste on the topic of #climate change.

Politically wrong incentives were set.

pic.twitter.com/3K2Byx4GQC

- tough but fair (@hartaberfair) November 16, 2020

Spenner recalls the huge challenge that the energy transition brings with it

The entrepreneur warns that huge amounts of clean electricity are needed just to electrify industry.

Offshore wind farms were not enough - everyone agreed again.

The cement entrepreneur worries about the competitiveness of the domestic industry, especially as long as other countries are allowed to sell their “non-climate-neutral cement” cheaply with us.

“We have to ensure that our industry does not collapse because of the energy transition,” said Spenner.

"We have to make sure that our industry does not collapse on the #world market."

Dirk Spenner, # Managing Director of #Spenner Zement, at #hartaberfair @DasErste on the topic of #climate change.

pic.twitter.com/M5o8kJfN0K

- tough but fair (@hartaberfair) November 17, 2020

The biggest surprise at "Hard but fair"

The “Fridays for Future” activist rejects the prohibition rhetoric that the environmental movement likes to say: “Do you carry patio heaters with you?” Asks moderator Plasberg.

“Yes,” Reemtsma replies, to everyone's amazement.

"You can let 4000 patio heaters run for several months and that has the same effect as an hour coal-fired power station, that's all you need to say."

"Do you carry patio heaters?"


"Yes. You can take out 4,000 patio heaters and let them run for several months and that has the same effect as an hour's coal-fired power station, that's all you need to say."


- Carla Reemtsma



Always this VERBOtSrHeToRiK from @FridayForFuture #hartaberfair

- 🎄Jasmin Schreiber 😷 (@LaVieVagabonde) November 16, 2020

Conclusion of the “hard but fair” program on climate change

The CDU parliamentary group chairman Ralph Brinkhaus says at the end: "We have recently also had sustainability days in the Bundestag, because we are already seeing that we have to deal with the issue more than was the case in the past ..." Student Carla Reemtsma, on the other hand, speaks of that there are “far too many cars” in Germany.

The number of cars must shrink.

It also becomes clear to the last person that two worldviews collide that could not be further apart.

Source: merkur

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