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Hezi Levy: "A democratic regime is good, but it does not serve the war in Corona"

The director general of the Ministry of Health calls for the education system to be opened despite the increase in morbidity, argues that enforcement should be increased, believes that the need for government and Knesset approval could delay the fight against the virus and sets a threshold for Israel to enter a third closure. With them. "Interview

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Meirav Cohen

Tuesday, 17 November 2020, 00:17

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In the video: Levy on the danger of opening the ultra-Orthodox education system in violation of the guidelines (Walla! NEWS system)

Following the decision of the Corona Cabinet to open fifth and sixth grades, the Director General of the Ministry of Health, Prof. Hezi Levy, fears that this could lead to an increase in morbidity and further closure. In an interview with Walla! NEWS after the discussion in the Corona Cabinet, Levy said last night (Monday) that Although school opening raises morbidity, as has happened in countries around the world, it is important to return children to an educational setting.

"In today's state of knowledge morbidity can be reduced by the rules of social distance, masks, and proper behavior," Levy says. The cautious exit stages from the quarantine are supported by the epidemiological medical theory. "

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Director General of the Ministry of Health, Prof. Hezi Levy (Photo: Reuven Castro)

"I'm glad students are back on the school bench, but's afraid we'll face another outburst, and no one wants another closure."

After lengthy discussions over the past two days, you have decided to open the sixth grades, despite opposition from the Ministry of Health.

How do you relate to the sting sent to you by the Minister of Education?

"It is difficult to blame the rise in morbidity only on the opening of schools, but according to the literature in all countries - the opening of schools has raised morbidity. It does not matter if they tell me no child is infected or no teacher is infected. We have already seen asymptomatic teachers and kindergarteners. To our call and went to be tested and found verified, "he says, but cautions:" It's important to say not much. "

"Morbidity can be reduced by the rules of social distance."

Levy in an interview with Walla!

NEWS (Photo: Reuven Castro)

According to Levy, "There is no doubt that we can not continue to leave the children at home. Education Minister Yoav Galant is right - the children must be returned to school. It is impossible to hold them without social interaction and without the teacher."

The Director General of the Ministry of Health is very careful about the honor of the Minister of Education and says that “Every minister brings the data on the subject he is entrusted with.

I can say that the Minister of Health is not happy.

I'm probably happy with the people of Israel that there are more facilities and more students returning to the school bench, but I'm afraid.

"There is hope here that is mixed with the fear that we will face another outbreak and no one wants another closure."

"Today everyone understood why we chose to go with Modern"

At the same time, Levy says there is no escape from further restrictions.

"The discussion yesterday revolved around the facilitations that were planned at this stage: to return first-sixth and sixth-twelfth grades to school, and to open the malls. But in the shadow of this, there was an increase in the coefficient of infection to 1.4 yesterday. .

On Tuesday, Moderna released its vaccine efficacy data and the Ministry of Health was quick to issue solemn announcements about Israel's wise choice to gamble on Moderna.

However, unlike the agreement with Pfizer, in the agreement with Moderna there is no obligation on quantities or schedules.

Professor Levy claims that he is prevented from talking about the details of the contract.

"Modernity is not foreign to us - and the one who understands will understand," Levy chuckles.

"They were quick to criticize us for betting on modernity, but we have been examining all the companies for many months, everything is very calculated. Today everyone understood why we chose to go with modernity, and yet the State of Israel did not put all its eggs in one basket."

"Is not foreign to us, and he who understands will understand."

Vaccine doses to the corona of a modern company (Photo: Reuters)

"Enforcement should be increased because if there is no deterrence, we will not get anywhere. The path of democracy is not simple, because we need the approval of the government and then of the Knesset."

With Pfizer, you published the quantities and times on your own initiative.

Why is it not so with modernity?

"We know how to work with modernity," Levy concluded.

"The question is how to store it and how to disperse it, because it has to be in a deep freeze some of the time."

Levy was reluctant to talk about the contract signed with Pfizer.

"I'm afraid there will be delays because of the US regulatory authorities, because of consumption or prioritization of the company's distribution to other places," he says.

"I believe that the company will abide by the contract and we will receive supplies as agreed in early January. It is important to remember that we did not lay all the eggs in one basket, but I believe that the contract will give Israel the vaccines while the company pledged."

"The State of Israel has not put all its eggs in one basket."

Levy (Photo: Reuven Castro)

"I think overall it's good that we live in a democratic regime, alas if not, but it does not serve our fighting in Corona"

Why can't a decision be made to increase fines or increase enforcement?

"These discussions happen, but they are conducted in the Cabinet and the Knesset with people who think differently and have a different agenda. I think we need to step up enforcement because if there is no significant deterrence, we will not get anywhere. Today, if all these terrible weddings occur, there is not enough deterrence. "The path of democracy is not simple, because you have to get the approval of the government and then of the Knesset."

"It can be called politics, but we are in a democratic regime where decisions are made in a government made up of people who bring an agenda or have official responsibilities, such as the finance minister who represents the purely economic line - it is not political, but he represents the economic agenda." .

"The Minister of Education is right - it is impossible to hold children without social interaction and without the teacher" (Photo: Reuven Castro)

And when ministers work so that no fines will be imposed on their sector?

"It's really awful, we stand on our own, but in the end things were decided by the government and the Knesset, we can like it or not like it. I think overall it's good that we live in a democratic regime, alas if not, but it does not serve "Our fighting in Corona. There are things that should have been decided faster. I do not want to challenge the governmental structure, we in the Ministry of Health try to bring things as we see fit in the clearest way."

"The question is when will the red flag of the hospitals be hoisted. In September it was a very difficult situation, but we did not collapse. After we added beds and manpower, it is still a situation that makes treatment very difficult," he was careful to set accurate estimates.

Finally he replies: "Around 1,000 severe corona patients with at least a quarter breathing, we will have to stop and impose another closure."

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