"These Asian countries are doing better": the expert names the main difference to Germany in Anne Will

Strategy - yes or no, that is the question.

German pandemic management is not doing well with Anne Will.

Markus Söder admits a basic problem.

• Germany in the Corona crisis - that was the topic of "Anne Will" in the first on Sunday (November 29th) again.

• Journalist Vanessa Vu made the Southeast Asia comparison and thinks: "These countries are doing better." 

• CSU boss Markus Söder criticized: People are "made crazy" with lateral thinker theories. 

Anne Will - these guests were present at the talk 

• Markus Söder (CSU)

  - CSU party chairman and Prime Minister of Bavaria, switched on 

• Michael Müller (SPD)

  - Governing Mayor of Berlin 

• Christian Lindner (FDP)

  - party leader and parliamentary group leader of the Liberals in the Bundestag 

• Viola Priesemann

  - research group leader at the Max Planck Institute for Dynamics and Self-Organization 

• Vanessa Vu

  - journalist 

Germany in

-Stress: The number of cases have been stagnant for weeks at a high level, the

demoralized the people, the outlook for improvement by a vaccine is less tangible.

No end in sight and economic pressure is increasing for more and more people.

The

is about the question of how to deal better with the pandemic.  

"Anne Will" - criticism from the scientist: There is a lack of a united political stance 

The group agrees on one point - albeit for different reasons: a clear strategy, a clear goal of the federal government with regard to Corona is missing.

Vanessa Vu, a journalist with Vietnamese roots,

and finds: "These countries are doing better." In fact, the number of cases there is stable at a low level - and in some cases even without a lockdown, for example in

. 

. @ _ vanessavu explains at #AnneWill why countries like Taiwan are now corona-free even without #Lockdown.

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- ANNE WILL talk show (@AnneWillTalk) November 30, 2020

The

criticized: "I lack a united stance of policy - preferably with a European coordination to do everything so that we runterbekommen case numbers again." She warns: A "Lockdown light" was for months no fun . 

When it comes to “Anne Will”, Söder and Müller agree  

Markus Söder confesses

- and thus has the Governing Mayor of Berlin,

, at his side: "We just argue too much." In Southeast Asia there is a uniform philosophy and way of acting - with us, however, the basic idea - there is Corona at all ?

- Doubted by many people and in hundreds of

and "made fun of" people with lateral thinker theories.

The federal-state meetings - some ten hours long, with discussions going from the “hundredth to the thousandth” - conveyed the impression: “They don't agree either.” Söder explains self-critically: “That doesn't convey the sovereignty and security that we do actually need. ”Proof of this could also be the disputes that continued even after the summit.

"The warning app could have a greater effect (...) but it basically fails because of a very high data protection hurdle," says @Markus_Soeder at #AnneWill.

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"Anne Will": Why are the case numbers in Southeast Asia so much lower than in Europe?  

What could a strategy be? Anne Will wants to know and receives an answer from Priesemann.

This explains clearly again why the

are the focal point.

Low numbers of cases mean: lower

of people infected, less sick, fewer deaths.

High case numbers: Overload of the health authorities, no contact tracing, no quarantine measures, high infection rates, overburdened hospitals, many dead.  

"Bringing the number of cases down now is easier than in the spring when it comes to purely technical issues. When it comes to motivating citizens, it may be more difficult."

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- ANNE WILL talk show (@AnneWillTalk) November 29, 2020

A clip shows the

of

from Asia: Strictest quarantine measures, isolation and contact blocks with digital monitoring and high fines, extensive tests and

for every social contact.

editor Vu adds: The measures are clearly communicated and demanded there.

Vu: "On the other hand, we stumble from one federal-state summit to the next." 

There is no cynicism like in this country, but a collective awareness among the population that the measures must also be implemented responsibly.

The comparison of figures proves her right: In

, which has more inhabitants than the Federal Republic, only slightly more than 1300 infections have been detected in the entire course of the pandemic.

Vu: "400 deaths, almost every day, is not such a proud result to show". 

Lindern is asking for free masks for everyone at “Anne Will” 

Michael Müller refers to the now stagnating case numbers and argues that the Southeast Asian region was much better prepared for the pandemic.

From the beginning there were more masks and better technical implementation - in addition, the willingness of people who had already

much higher than in Europe.  

sums up: contact restrictions, hygiene concepts, distance, masks, ventilation or the CoronaWarn app are correct measures.

His criticism: "People are not clearly told: What is the time horizon!" The FDP boss calls for free masks for all German citizens and a stronger focus on risk patients.

Priesemann says: "You are again discussing things that are absolutely irrelevant!"

Linder insists: the protection of health must be guaranteed in balancing with other rights - including freedom of culture or economic freedom.  

Conclusion of the "Anne Will" broadcast 

The talk drive got thematically through the strategy question and through the comparison with the rising world power region Southeast Asia.

The possibility that “they” solve this better than “we” opened up the perspective.

As usual, there was no discussion of German sensitivities, but rather of German performance in a global comparison.