The parliamentary investigation into the police operation known as Kitchen, whose alleged unspeakable objective was to erase the traces of a crime, is moving without progress.
The political trial of the secret and illegal methods that, according to the judicial investigation, the Ministry of the Interior used to cover up the corruption of the PP begins without the necessary information.
The National Court has denied the Congress of Deputies the documentation that the parliamentarians have demanded on the grounds that the case is under secret and with the live instruction.
The Parliament conspired months ago to review this sordid episode in the bowels of power for which half a dozen policemen and the two main political leaders of the Ministry of the Interior are accused.
A group of veteran commissioners, all of them key in the police structure, carried out an operation in the summer of 2013 without judicial knowledge or authorization with the supposed objective of protecting their political bosses from public derision and preventing their downfall.
That police leadership did everything it could to infiltrate the surroundings of the Bárcenas family with the intention of looking for their other secrets.
They persecuted for months the wife of the ex-treasurer of the PP when he was already in prison;
They raided her small antiquarian workshop in search of key documents, stole two of her husband's mobile phones for a few hours to copy the information they contained, and followed him when he went to the gym, the hairdresser or the supermarket.
All this catalog of shabby espionage and dark maneuvers was accredited through multiple tests incorporated into the case summary: there are two years of receipts of reserved funds paid to the Bárcenas family chauffeur, the mole used in the operation;
there are dozens of follow-up parts to the former treasurer's wife - "The blonde", according to the imaginative vocabulary used by the agents in their writings-;
there is a copy of the documents downloaded from the cell phones stolen from the former treasurer;
there are long confessions from the commissioners who participated in the flushing;
and there are telephone messages that allegedly reveal the knowledge of the criminal plan by those who were Minister of the Interior and Secretary of State.
Congress is now beginning the investigation of a dirty operation of the State to favor those who ruled in the State and were in difficulties.
While the commissars of the Interior police leadership planned the assault on the hiding places where Bárcenas hid the secrets that could harm the Government, President Mariano Rajoy apologized in public for having trusted the ex-treasurer of the PP.
While the Prime Minister confessed that he had been wrong, the Interior Ministry was desperately looking for documents that showed that Rajoy had not made a mistake but had taken advantage of the efforts of who was manager and treasurer of the party for 20 years.
All this evidence has been published over the last few months in the media, with information based on the summary that all parties have been handling for two years: the lawyers of the dozen defendants who appear in the case and the accusations. popular that intervene in the process, in addition to the investigating judge and the Prosecutor's Office itself.
The National Court has denied the Congress of Deputies the documentation requested by the deputies of the investigation commission to do their job properly.
EL PAÍS publishes the most interesting content of part of the summary reports that Parliament has requested to investigate the case and that the investigating judge, Manuel García Castellón, has refused to deliver.
0. A plan to steal the secrets of Bárcenas
The Internal Affairs Unit of the National Police delivers to the judge a report of almost 100 pages in which it concludes that there was a police operation between 2013 and 2015 paid for with funds reserved to spy on the family of the former PP treasurer (October 29, 2018)
As anticipated to VI, from the analysis that has been carried out on the intervened documentation (on paper and digital), it has been possible to prove (as reported in the initial complaint) the
existence of several "PROJECTS"
(in addition of KING,! RON, LAND or PIT) commissioned by third parties unrelated to the National Police Force, assumed by Commissioner VILLAREJO within the framework of the activities of the investigated corporate structure and which involve the practice of certain procedures or procedures that
collide with the Obligations legally required of police officers.
Parallel to the development of this business activity, in which VILLAREJO assumes the practice of restrictive measures of fundamental rights without any legal or judicial coverage and for which it receives millionaire sums, information and documentation has been located that relates the principal investigated with another operation or project (called "KITCHEN" or "KITCHEN"), this time commissioned by Higher Bodies and / or Directors of the General State Administration and without there being a specific or known remuneration.
Specifically, it has been learned that, at least in the years 2013 to 2015, José Manuel VILLAREJO (Acting Commissioner assigned to the Deputy Operational Directorate) has been in charge of managing an informant who goes by the name of Sergio Javier RÍOS ESGUEVA, at the time, conductor of the couple of Luis Francisco BÁRCENAS GUTIERREZ ', former treasurer of the Popular Party.
This is inferred from the content of the audio files located on the pendrive referred to as INDICIO BE9 and intervened at the habitual address of José Manuel VILLAREJO PÉREZ and on the hard drive indicated as INDICIO GT23 intervened at the habitual address of Rafael REDONDO, which record paths conversations between VILLAREJO and SERGIO.
Excerpt from Verbatim Transcript 20131002:
SERGIO informs VILLAREJO
(whom he knows as TONY or TOMY) about different data of interest related to Luis BÁRCENAS and his partner (contacts with journalists, justification of income through the sale of paintings, existence of documents and compromising recordings for different leaders of the Popular Party , etc.), noting
VILLAREJO's interest in trying to find out the place where BÁRCENAS could keep those compromising documents and recordings for senior officials of the Popular Party,
among which they cite Javier Arenas, María Dolores DE COSPEDAL or Mariano RAJOY
(“Lo The only thing is that this type of conversation, male, on that pendrive, is something that somehow you have to hit the jar to find it, male ",
says VILLAREJO who later insists again
" that's why I tell you the hell that everything that is to recover those recordings as such, to recover the hard disks and such ”).
In a similar vein, VILLAREJO repeatedly asks SERGIO to try to obtain the
telephone numbers of certain security terminals that BÁRCENAS
and
his immediate surroundings would use: “
and
those numbers, man, how can we get those numbers ( ...) let's see if, hell, you can, uh, we can get those phone numbers) ".
In exchange for the information, VILLAREJO gives SERGIO two thousand euros
that seem to correspond to the
monthly payment
for September of the current year and
whose delivery is documented in writing
("put two thousand, not two hundred (...) September expenses" ),
being the
management of the informant shared with
a third person whom they constantly cite (who they nickname
ANDY
and would be linked to both the Police and the then General Secretary of the Popular Party, María Dolores DE COSPEDAL
(“and why that confrontation with, with, with the boss is of, Andy, macho, with Cospe ",
asks VILLAREJO), all
within the framework of a plan or strategy,
apparently
supervised by hierarchical superiors of Commissioner VILLAREJO
(" if you have than talking to your bosses, I would put my hand on the fire right now that they are not going to get anything out of it ”).
1. Reserved funds: "Put 2,000 [euros] no 200, sucker"
Commissioner José Manuel Villarejo speaks with the mole who uses the police leadership to extract information from the Bárcenas family.
The conversations transcribed here take place between October 2013 and October 2014. In this recording, Villarejo talks with Sergio Ríos about the payment of an amount, taken from the reserved funds item, for the services rendered.
In the registry of the Villarejo house, the receipts that accredited these payments were found.
The Interior Ministry has also credited that the payments were made.
Sergio Ríos (driver of the Bárcenas family): Eh, so
... And then there will also be a couple of contracts for the sale of paintings, I imagine they will be to justify.
There I no longer know if they are real or false ...
Villarejo (curator):
They will be more false than a potato, but hey ...
Sergio:
I have tried (unintelligible)
Villarejo:
Damn, I also have the best opinion of you, which I am also transmitting it to you, you seem to me like a guy who learns with a speed that you layer ...
Sergio:
Man, I told Andy [Andres Gómez Gordo, a policeman who worked as a senior officer with Dolores de Cospedal in the Government of Castilla-La Mancha] it's a matter of learning and he tells me, of course you damn well don't get overwhelmed either they can ask you for pears with elm.
Villarejo:
You will have seen that I do little and that ... put two thousand, not two hundred, sucker!
Sergio:
Ah, two thousand, exactly.
Villarejo:
Man!
And write it down if you don't mind.
Sergio:
Ah okay, okay
Villarejo:
That is (it sounds as if they were handling paper) (unintelligible) and put, that ... September expenses, right?
(they speak at the same time) perfect.
Well, generally speaking, I think, I'm satisfied (unintelligible) the only one ...
Sergio:
A job has been done ...
Villarejo:
No, no, no, what if ...
Sergio:
A job has been done ... but impressive, look I have here ...
(…)
2. “Bárcenas has lost his mind.
If he takes everything out, he will be the same in jail "
The Bárcenas family driver tells Commissioner Villarejo that Bárcenas, already in jail, may be tempted to pull the blanket by pulling out new documents that implicate the PP in irregular activities.
And that that would be even worse for the former treasurer.
Sergio Rios (driver of the Bárcenas family):
But come on, if you read the article, it is to give it a, that is, it has been given a (unintelligible) I have talked about it with Andy, damn man, and what did the woman say? Well, they are very fond of him but he has lost his mind.
Villarejo (curator):
No, he's desperate, I think ...
Sergio:
Because putting, ehhh, everything is that they spend two years in jail and thus they can win the elections.
Damn, that's to put
all the pressure in the world
on
Luis that they are going to leave you, take everything out.
No hell, if you take everything out it will be the same inside.
Villarejo: Fuck it
!
Sergio:
You know?
The only one that...
Villarejo:
The secret is that public opinion stops remembering him ...
Sergio:
Lower the profile of the press ...
Villarejo:
Lower the profile of the press (they speak at the same time)
Sergio:
Because I talk to Andy [Andrés Gómez Gordo, police officer, position of trust of María Dolores de Cospedal in the Government of Castilla-La Mancha] and he tells me, uncle, let's see, if I was in the post office (unintelligible) and I tell him Look, it's the breeding ground now for someone to enter directly.
Hey look, ma'am, I am not here to tell you lies, this is very screwed up, but there is the difference between death and amputation, you are going to see damage, do not think that here no one leaves without such, but madam, these people are screwing you It is also true, if you have had time, you sons of bitches, if you make some cartridges ...
Villarejo:
Yes, yes.
Sergio:
This morning I had coffee in the kitchen, the lady was telling me, well, Luis has a mosquito ...
Sergio:
You know Genoa, right?
Villarejo:
Yes, yes
Sergio:
And
have you seen the latest work?
Villarejo:
But ...
Sergio:
No
have you seen the system how is the cameras?
Villarejo:
No, I don't know ...
Sergio:
When you go, that, you will realize who has been able to access there, only.
Villarejo:
The
cuñao [from Bárcenas] is the only one who has been able to access and take the album.
Sergio:
Or, as I used to say to Andrés [Gómez Gordo], or let the brother-in-law come or someone come and tell him, go have a coffee, I'll stay.
Villarejo:
Sure.
Sergio:
Because ...
Villarejo:
There is no other ...
Sergio:
... he's downstairs, that is, the guy is seated, he has all the cameras and the CPUs are cooled in the back.
There is a camera focusing, is that, either you get up and go to have a coffee or you see the guy come in and take the hard drive, or put at least one USB to download, there is no other formula.
[The security cameras at the headquarters of the PP allegedly recorded the entry of the businessmen who, according to Bárcenas, donated black money to the PP in an irregular manner.
But that evidence was never incorporated into the investigation because the images were not preserved].
Villarejo:
There is no other.
Sergio:
There is no other, there is no other.
Because if you take a camera, which I have come to think, you will take that camera alone, you will not take the entire storage circuit.
Villarejo:
No, that's ...
Sergio:
That is the typical thing that this one would arrive, which was God, and said to the brother-in-law, "you tell this one to go have a coffee," or send someone very trustworthy, "hey, do this."
Villarejo:
Of course, this was God, an eminence.
Sergio:
Yes, but even so, every time I entered, you got the "beep, it has entered the main system" signal, so there it leaves a signal.
Villarejo:
Yes, yes, yes.
Sergio:
The only one who could ...
Villarejo:
Eh, change the subject and such (they speak at the same time)
Sergio:
Exactly, they have it clear, hey, everyone who has worked there knows it.
Villarejo:
Of course, there is the cuñao with the ass in the air and of course, but how they maintain it and such, well the uncle until now ... But of course, yesterday they said in the Sixth that it had been signed I do not know what story ...
Sergio:
Yes, it was signed on the 19th ...
Villarejo:
... a
accounting issue right?
Sergio:
Accounting?
Villarejo:
No, an accounting issue, as if the brother-in-law had also kept accounting things.
Sergio:
Yes, yes, I keep the accounts of a campaign, but by order of him, because as he was already a senator, he could not manage the campaign, and he made this authorized or attorney, that is, the authorized signature of the campaign.
Villarejo:
Attorney, attorney.
Sergio:
Proxy, exactly.
The other one was doing the whole campaign but since he was a senator he couldn't sign the bills.
Villarejo:
Of course, this kind of thing is data that has been given to them, that in some way it has been given to them by someone very close to them, eh, why not ...
Sergio:
To those of the Sixth?
Liaño, because the lady has not spoken with those of ... Liaño ... The thing about Liaño in the Sixth already smells sometimes ... [after firing the lawyers who defended him, Bárcenas hired Javier Gómez de Liaño during the first months he spent in jail].
Villarejo: It
already smells ... if it is also ...
Sergio:
And the images, they have given him the totals and they have not given them to the lady and there the alarms have gone off.
Villarejo:
Don't tell me, haven't they given him the one, the ...?
Sergio:
The totals
Villarejo:
Yes?
Sergio: I
had promised, that is, I spoke with one of the reporters with whom I have dealings, whose name is Pedro de La Sexta, hey it would be a gesture for the woman to continue making statements or at least say hello to you, that tell him the totals that you say you have not drawn.
No, it is that such Ferreras, Ferreras talks to Liaño and he is going to hand them over to Liaño so that it can be as judicial evidence;
ah okay, lady who says and such and such ... ah okay, that is, they give them to Liaño and they don't give them to me?
Okay fuck ...
Villarejo:
They are key failures, why?
Because it is a loss of respect, hey who is paying you, who is such ...?
At the end...
Sergio:
And he is, and the lady is paying him.
Villarejo:
Eh?
Of course...
Sergio:
He is paying the one from the World now.
Villarejo:
Is the lady paying you?
Sergio:
El del Mundo volunteered and put up with him for the first month, the lady's mother is paying for it huh.
Villarejo:
Ah
Yes?
Sergio: And
there are also justified transfers and everything and the favor that (unintelligible) the brother is paying.
Villarejo:
Damn, with two male eggs!
Sergio:
Man, he has placed them all too, what do you want me to tell you.
Villarejo:
Yes, yes ...
Sergio:
The
life, life, in the end is the family ...
3. "It was the prosecutors who put him in jail"
Villarejo comments with the driver of the Bárcenas family that the imprisonment of the ex-treasurer of the PP was due to pressure from the Anti-Corruption Prosecutor's Office, which effectively requested unconditional imprisonment, led by the then Minister of Justice, Alberto Ruiz-Gallardón, who has denied his participation in the procedure that affected his party.
Sergio:
Leave things fixed and leave such, they were cheating on him, I took him in the car and I was saying, no no man, this judge can threaten you but no ... damn it!
He made a visit to him and; D'arriba!
Villarejo:
There was the prosecutor's office, uh, it was the prosecutors.
Sergio:
Yes, yes, but what ...
Villarejo:
It was the prosecutors because it was Gallardón huh.
Sergio:
Yes, but ...
Villarejo:
There the play ...
Sergio:
... what I understand is that I already had it written.
Villarejo:
Eh?
Sergio:
It took only two hours and it was I don't know how many pages.
Villarejo:
Man, but it was already agreed, it was agreed before.
But that is a betrayal that Gallardón does to ... well, why?
Because Aznar was interested in Gallardón to go inside and prepare, mount a fight, provoke a congress ...
Sergio:
Is Aznar interested ...?
Villarejo:
Of course, Aznar wants to provoke a congress, he wants to provoke an extraordinary congress ...
Sergio:
But if he lets go of the cuñao, he's going to take Aznar in the ass.
Villarejo:
Sure, but ... the son-in-law, the son-in-law.
Sergio:
The
son in law.
He's going to take it up the ass!
Villarejo:
Sure, but, but ...
Sergio:
It's all about the money, everything about the formula, is that, is that, is that he said it, he said it, let's see ... and the wedding, everything was carried out by this one, the negotiations with the other, if ... what happens will be prescribed, but the image of Aznar may fall for ...
Villarejo:
Yes, yes, yes, no, the whole wedding was carried by him, I know.
Sergio:
The whole wedding was carried out by him, him and Arenas, so ...
Villarejo:
Yes, there he, there the problem is that someone, I believe that Pedro
J.
who has great ancestry over Aznar, has been convinced Aznar that, to provoke an extraordinary congress, like the one that took place in Your day...
Sergio:
Yes, the one from Valencia, I was in that one.
Villarejo:
... and that as a result of that ... Aznar and all those things come back again ...
(…)
Sergio:
First to try, is that, let's see, the suspicion of the man, because the woman has said it clearly, was that he must have something with Casals or with Arenas on the part of Galeote, he says, because part of the conversation they gave him, he detected that it was not from Raioy and they
They were selling the bike that belonged to Raioy and they offered him compensation in B, hey, they're going to seize it, it's a way out;
And that was when he said, let's see that my wife has money, my family knows that she has enough money, as if they have to sell the houses, that they are going to help me, don't worry.
Villarejo:
Yeah, yeah, of course, that's what ...
Sergio:
You know?
Three hundred thousand euros I think that these people, only with the houses they have in Astorga, I think they cover them more than enough ...
4. Sergio Ríos: "Bárcenas's wife told Arenas: Now Luis is for Justice and what little muleteers we are ..."
The driver of the Bárcenas family recounts a meal between Rosalía Iglesias, the wife of the former treasurer, and the leader of the PP Javier Arenas.
And as in this meal, Iglesias tells Arenas that her husband is not going to shut up and is going to collaborate with the Justice.
Villarejo:
Too much.
Sergio:
Too much.
He says, don't worry about me, he says, but let's tell me that ... and then the comment about "and you don't think that Arenas eh said that Rajoy knew about the accounts but he cheated on him, maybe it was Arenas, the one who has cheated everything ”and they call him the Bocanegra.
Villarejo:
Yes, yes.
Sergio:
And that's when he said, and a cock!
Although you know that the other one knew.
Villarejo:
Yes
Sergio:
That was weird because, the lady said, is that ... in fact they have commented to me, they were, it was, the meeting was at the Reebook, at the Reebook, at ABC Serrano there is a cafeteria ...
Villarejo:
Ah yes.
Sergio:
... from, but from ... down in the gourmet, from an uncle this famous, from a Chef.
Villarejo:
Yes, yes.
Sergio:
Okay, well they were there and look at how the conversation that the lady told her took place, turn my phone, what do you think I'm recording?
Are you recording me, Javier?
He says, you're asking me things you know.
The lady got pissed off, in fact the lady told me, the lady told me, "Well, don't be so, I really try, I know my situation is very difficult and such" and she said, "Come on I'll take you home." and she said, "no, my husband told me that I only get in the car with Sergio."
Villarejo:
Fuck ... fuck ...
Sergio:
So they will end ... and at night he received a message from Don Javier and he said, "I have done what you have told me, I have finalized all kinds of treatment, a hug."
And she said to me, "look, instead of a kiss, a hug, when the paper has put it on us"
Villarejo:
That is the message that this ... Javier, you say?
Sergio:
Yes, at night, on Sunday night.
Villarejo:
What have I
all settled in what sense?
Sergio:
Because she told him, "Tell whom you are going with that there is no type of deal, that there is nothing, that now Luis is not there for the work of the press because we have already shown it to you," she says, "but Luis it is for justice
and
what little muleteers we are and what ... "
Villarejo:
And that each one with his own.
Sergio:
And that each one his own, he says, and he told him, he says, “because you know how things have been, you know who is telling you and above all whoever has to know it”.
Villarejo:
Ahaaa ...
Sergio: Let's
see this one is not any ... well, what am I going to say to you ...
Villarejo:
Yes, no, no, no ...
Sergio:
This is not a saint, but it is clear that he is eating a feast that there have been more diners, and he is eating it himself, obviously.
Villarejo:
No,
he's a guy with eggs huh.
He is also a guy with a jar.
He's a guy ... I really like him (laughs) that is me, me particularly (they speak at the same time)
Sergio:
For me he is an offsider, because a man ...
Villarejo:
You
I mean to ...
Sergio:
... that he has done things that I did not realize before, let's see, the trip, this and then, and then ... ahhh and something that the lady said to me, she says, and the friends, Real friends, Javier, you know they are going to be there because they have no interests in this country nor do they have interests elsewhere, which I think is there, they are all foreigners who were from the climbing group.
Hey, I told Andy that they come out in a video, can you guys get that back?
In the world.
Villarejo:
In the world, a video that ...?
Sergio:
One of them appears in a video.
Villarejo:
Yes?
Sergio:
The diners when they recorded the World exclusive, eh, eating in a
Paris restaurant?
Villarejo:
Yes.
Sergio:
Do you remember?
It came out in El Mundo, they eat them ... one of the diners, who is one of those who climb.
Villarejo:
Yes ... in El Mundo ... but did a video come out or not?
Sergio:
Yes, yes, a video, a video.
Villarejo:
A photo came out
Sergio:
No, no, it was a video, hey, a journalist had come out of him and they recorded him, in a restaurant with five forks or I don't know what, what was when, that's when ... that later I also think that One of the things that this man did, this man should have gone to Baqueira, shut himself up and shut himself off from the press ...
Villarejo:
Sure ...
Sergio:
Because when he went out every day in Principe de Vergara he was the one who (unintelligible) the press.
Villarejo:
Fundamentally, let's see, no, he didn't even take and have gone off or whatever ...
Sergio: He
had a passport, he could have been away ...
Villarejo: He
could have been out and fucked and ...
Sergio: ...
and when the judge calls me I'll come back
Villarejo:
... I'm going
and such and such, when necessary (unintelligible) that is the thing, but there is ...
Sergio:
And then, the big mistake that the lady says, over and over, that I don't know if that is recorded or not recorded, I have commented to Andy is, uh, Galeote and Trallero and Michavila made him like a half a pact, "do not worry because they are going to comply with you, damn you are the heart of the party", so that he would leave the seat, and that he regrets a lot, because he says that he has been in jail for a year ...
Villarejo:
Man, man, a senator ...
Sergio:
So there he also feels very deceived by Galeote and by Michavila and by Trallero, who told him don't worry that this is closing, that this is such, that this is what, that you are the heart of the party ...
Villarejo:
And
did he stop being a senator for that?
Sergio:
And he delivered the Minutes. And there Liaño, what has he done?
That is where you have screwed up everything, because this in the Supreme Court would have fallen or it would be ... you would not go into jail with this one ... you were not going to enter.
Villarejo:
But how ... totally ... how did he not see that?
Did you totally trust ...
Sergio:
I believe, that's why ...
Villarejo:
... from Bocanegra as you say?
Sergio:
Yes, because the conversation, the conversation is a betrayal.
In other words, it is not a betrayal, if not that ... I understand it because ...
5. "Arenas is dead."
The supposed recorded conversation of Seville.
Although the investigation has not yet found that recording, Bárcenas' driver assured that the former treasurer met Javier Arenas in Seville and recorded the entire conversation.
Villarejo:
And does he have that conversation recorded as well?
Sergio:
Yes, that's the one you have.
That's the one of, that of ...
Villarejo:
Ah, that's how tough he is.
Sergio:
... the
of Arenas.
Villarejo:
Ah.
Sergio:
That is the one that when he no longer trusts him they stay in Seville and he starts to shoot him, “and this one, and this one has done this, and he says, of course he has done this, and this one this and says about the campaign, the airplanes, he says, the helicopters, he says, what of such, which, I don't know what, damn it, but it is that Cospedal has gone with you ... "and the loosing niceties of everyone except him.
And I told Andy, he has gotten into a ball ...
Villarejo:
The Arenas?
Sergio:
That was when he turned red and said, "no, no, I don't remember the conversation", how can you not remember the conversation!
Villarejo:
And that conversation will probably hurt him a lot, especially Arenas.
Sergio:
Man, Arenas is dead.
Come on, I understand.
If you, just by turning your boss green and spouting niceties from everyone except you ...
6. "You have to hit the jar to find that pen drive with Rajoy."
Villarejo and the driver from Bárcenas talk about a meeting between the former treasurer and Mariano Rajoy in which he tells him all the compromising documentation he has.
Supposedly, Bárcenas recorded that conversation but no one has found it yet
Villarejo:
No, no, that's right, it's a shit and the other conversation is when he was with her
Sergio:
The one with the office
Villarejo:
... the President, right?
Sergio:
Yes yes, yes ...
Villarejo:
And that's where, where does he say that, right?
He says, How do you have that role?
do not?
De la Cospe and ...
Sergio:
Yes, because he gets angry and threatens him and says, "Hey, I have a Cospedal ..." the President says, "How do you keep that?"
and he says, "I have that and much more" that the President has to know, come on!
Villarejo:
No, of course.
Sergio:
That is very simple, that is asking.
Villarejo:
No, no, if that's the case.
The only thing is that this type of conversation, male, on that pendrive, is something that somehow you have to give the jar to, to find it, male.
You have to ... of course, being such a small site, anyone can have it anywhere, huh.
He, you told me, that when in detention and such, he was wearing it, right?
Sergio: I had
two pendrives, but I think they were from the accounts.
Villarejo:
Was it the accounts?
Sergio:
Yes.
Villarejo:
Now, hang up, you say?
Sergio:
Yes, yes.
I did pick them up, tron!
(They speak at the same time) and, and Andy says to me, Andy says to me, come on, if the day that you left for the Aran Valley with your backpack you had called me ... (they laugh) I say, now, now ( …)
Sergio.
The reality is that if you have to talk to your bosses, I would put my hand in the fire right now that they are not going to get anything out of it.
No, I don't think he's going to get anything out of it.
That is why I tell you that it is the breeding ground for someone to arrive and say, "You give me the word that you are not going to get anything or we are going to see ..." I think you are already aware that you have to eat something, but of course, they have deceived you for three years, they have deceived you, they have, these lawyers have taken one hundred and twenty thousand bucks and they have deceived you!
If I was at the law firm, I sit down ...
Villarejo:
What they charged before, what they charged before.
Sergio:
Yes, well, but they have cheated the party, not him.
But I was sitting down and they were, "No, this falls, this is ..." Damn, tell him that you have an imminent risk, prepare the little things, and ...
Villarejo:
Sure ...
Sergio:
... lower the media pressure, hide in a house, change your address, ehhh ...
(…)
7. Bárcenas's driver: "Andy [Cospedal's advisor] told me: do you think there is something that can screw up Barbas?"
The driver of the ex-treasurer of the PP tells Villarejo the information he has about the concern that existed in the leadership of the conservative formation for the secrets that Bárcenas hid to damage the popular leadership.
Sergio:
Hey, one of the things that Andy told me, he said to me “hey but do you think there is something that can screw up“ the beard ”?
and, and I saw it, what I saw, that they saw it and that is why they put their lips ... which is what was returned to the lady, which is the plane travel, which is paid by the Strap.
Villarejo:
Yes, but that ...
Sergio:
You
I say it ...
Villarejo:
They have that right?
or who has it?
Sergio:
They have it.
The World has seen it, but does not have it.
Villarejo:
You don't have it, you don't have it, that of the World doesn't have it?
Sergio: It
doesn't ...
Villarejo:
He has seen it but he does not have it on him.
Sergio:
Exactly, SPECIALEVENTS paid for it, I'm telling you.
Villarejo:
Yeah, but ...
Sergio:
And it is, and it is a plane ...
Villarejo:
the one from 2004?
Sergio:
... from, from Seville and a helicopter, which also leaves, from another place.
Villarejo:
Yeah but, but that's the 2004 campaign.
Sergio:
Yes
Villarejo:
And in the 2004 campaign, Aznar was still in charge and he ...
Sergio:
No, no, no, no, no, so no, no, no, no, it was, it was for Rajoy.
Villarejo:
No, but hey, of course it was Rajoy because he was, he was ... he was a candidate
Sergio:
Ah well, yes, ah okay, okay, yes ...
Villarejo:
I mean, he commanded ...
Sergio:
Okay, okay, okay.
No, I'm telling you because ... to tell you in person, you know?
What they have seen they have already bitten and the one that I think must have listened to the conversation, or Don Luis should have said, this, this and this is to Raúl del Pozo, period!
That he is the third famous man, because I believe that Pedro J. has not even heard the conversation.
Villarejo: In other
words, the one you have with the President, right?
President...
Sergio:
No, the one from the Presi hasn't shown it to anyone.
Villarejo:
Nobody ...
Sergio:
I think that, for that, for that so you can see what follows ...
Villarejo: He
was a guy ...
Sergio:
... he continues to put up with the President.
Because you think that when he made that conversation and when he made those comments the SMS had not yet gone out.
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