At Anne Will, Annalena Baerbock answers the moderator's critical questions in an individual interview, followed by a debate about the federal emergency brake.
Berlin - Anne Will is in good journalistic shape.
In her talk in the First, she puts the freshly elected Green candidate Annalena Baerbock on the tooth.
She then questioned the vote in the Bundestag on the “Federal Emergency Brake” and wanted to know from her guests: Was that the “breakthrough or low point in the pandemic policy?”.
This time, Will doesn't ask for a cuddle course.
Factual situation with "Anne Will": 40 complaints before the Federal Constitutional Court against the federal emergency brake
Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger brings the facts to the table on the second topic: 40 complaints have been submitted to the Federal Constitutional Court since the vote - for "different reasons".
The constitutional judge in Bavaria, who was Federal Justice Minister for the FDP for eight years, makes it clear why her party was the only one in the middle - alongside the left and the AfD - to vote against the “massive restriction of freedoms” in the Bundestag.
With regard to the different handling in the federal states, "it is clear to all those involved: There is no such uniform regulation".
The situation in the regions or which age groups are infected are too much to be considered as the R-value of 100 as the only guideline value.
In addition: "Outside the risk of infection is significantly lower!" Keeping people inside is therefore also wrong in terms of content, according to Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger.
"Anne Will" - these guests discussed with:
Annalena Baerbock (Alliance 90 / The Greens)
- candidate for Chancellor
Prof
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Gabriel Felbermayr
- President of the Institute for the World Economy (IfW Kiel)
Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger
- Judge at the Bavarian Constitutional Court and former Federal Minister of Justice
Dr.
Viola Priesemann
- research group leader at the Max Planck Institute for Dynamics and Self-Organization in Göttingen
Prof
.
Wolfgang Merkel
- political scientist and democracy researcher at the Social Science Research Center Berlin (WZB)
But first it was about Annalena Baerbock.
Anne Will briskly enters into the individual interview: "Somehow it says stupidly in the room that you only became it because you are a woman," the moderator throws at the head of the only female candidate in the race for the Chancellery and wants to know: "Will you get that cleared again?"
Annalena Baerbock straightened up and tried to answer with irony: “I won't change my gender, not even in the next six months!” And then admits: “Of course the question of emancipation also played a role,” after all Equal rights have not yet been achieved, says the mother of two daughters.
However, that was not the "only" criterion in the decision.
Anne Will pests Baerbock on her talk show with the question of emancipation
But not so easy can welcome them out of the loop, refers to the
time
interview, his wounds have leaked in the co-chief Habeck shortly after the announcement. Habeck named emancipation as the sole criterion for the decision. Will makes no secret of what she would have considered more professional: “Personally, I would have liked it better if it hadn't been discussed like that!” Baerbock makes every effort to take the wind out of the sails of a possible dispute between her and Habeck and refuses to answer: "If you see it that way !?"
What her decisive abilities are, Anne Will probes and Baerbock enumerates: “Assertiveness and determination, but also empathy and humanity.” Keyword for Will, who promptly throws the hook: “So that's it: Assertiveness, you admit yourself.
Also in contrast to Robert Habeck? ”Baerbock looks pained:“ You can go on with the game now, ”she replies and makes it clear that she is looking ahead.
And only now comes with content-related topics: climate policy, digitization, the return to the social middle class.
Annalena Baerbock compares herself with Obama on “Anne Will”
Habeck will continue to play an important role in the future, for example on questions relating to government experience.
Baerbock already mentions a specific task and lets us look deeply: "Robert Habeck will be preparing coalition negotiations in the next few months," she says, confident of victory.
Speaking of government experience - the Green Chancellor candidate, yes, so Will.
Baerbock tries himself confidently: She can make up for it with other qualities: “Respect and great humility.” In addition, she is “someone who is very capable of learning”.
If you look at the USA, there are also presidents there who were previously senators but had no previous experience in government and alludes to Barack Obama.
Point for Baerbock.
After Anne Will, politics professor Wolfgang Merkel comes up with criticism and calls the Greens' abstention from the vote on the Infection Protection Act a “low point in democracy”.
Baerbock elaborately explains that her party found the measures inadequate.
Curfews only made sense as part of a larger package of measures - especially obligations for companies - the obligation to work from home, testing and FFP2 masks - were missing.
The Greens were not in favor - but neither were they against the rising number of infections - so there was only an abstention.
Pandemic expert Priesemann questions the reduction in the number of cases
Pandemic expert Viola Priesemann
delivers surprising figures at the end of the program: The risk of dying from or with a corona infection is 1 percent for people over 70 years of age - at the age of 50 it is 0.1 percent. Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger believes that it should be possible for those who have been vaccinated to return to normal.
But Priesemann sees it differently: "Even a vaccination does not protect 100 percent!"
And makes a puzzling statement in relation to the reduction in the number of cases: “I'm not at all sure whether that's a goal.” Anne Will can't help but laugh: “What do you mean?
Long-term employment? ”Priesemann replies tellingly:“ A decline would simply not be taken seriously. ”That leaves the viewer at a loss: So pandemic policy without end?
Time is up.
Anne Will leads on to the "topics of the day".
Conclusion of the "Anne Will" talk
In the first part, Anne Will Annalena Baerbock grills with critical questions.
But it ripples badly in the second part.
The most interesting question comes to the end and remains unanswered: Will there be an end to the pandemic policy - and is that even desired?