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Revealing audios of a family decision prior to the death of Diego Maradona were leaked

2021-04-30T01:16:54.690Z


Dalma, Gianinna, Jana, Verónica Ojeda, the lawyer Víctor Stinfale, the doctor Leopoldo Luque, the psychiatrist Agustina Cosachov and the psychologist Carlos Díaz are heard interacting.


Damian Red

04/27/2021 4:55 PM

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Updated 04/27/2021 4:55 PM

While the investigation into the death of

Diego Maradona

enters the countdown to Justice, since in a few hours the report prepared by the Medical Board made up of twenty professionals and specialists in various areas of health will be known, things happen.

Five months after that fatal day of November 25, 2020, in which

Ten was

found dead

in his home in the country of San Andrés de Tigre, there were cross accusations, marches and complaints

seeking to find him or those responsible

.

The case was taken by the judge of Guarantees 2 of San Isidro, Orlando Díaz, and the investigation is in charge of the Attorney General of San Isidro with Attorney General John Broyad at the head, who ordered the creation of a working group, made up of the prosecutors Patricio Ferrari, Cosme Iribarren and Laura Capra.

The autopsy determined that Maradona died in his sleep due to

"acute heart failure, in a patient with dilated cardiomyopathy, chronic congestive heart failure that generated acute lung edema

.

"

And they found no traces of drugs or alcohol on his body.


So far, the neurosurgeon Leopoldo Luque, the psychiatrist Agustina Cosachov, the psychologist Carlos Díaz, the nurse Daiana Gisela Madrid have been charged with a possible manslaughter.

the nurse Ricardo Almirón, the doctor who coordinated the hospitalization from the prepaid Nancy Forlini, and the nurse coordinator Mariano Perroni.

Lawyers, doctors and relatives of the

Diez

paraded by all means supporting each one a story according to their convenience.

Phrases such as

"Diego was killed"

or

"Diego died alone and abandoned"

were heard

.

But what really happened?

Revealing family audios

Clarín

had access to material that could be key to the future of the cause, which, in part, could be heard in

Los Angeles de la Mañana

(El Trece, at 9.30

a.m.

).

It is a meeting between part of the family and the main medical professionals in which they planned the discharge from the Olivos Clinic and what the home hospitalization would be like.

It took place on Tuesday, November 10 at the Olivos Clinic and includes almost an hour of debate between Dalma, Gianinna, Jana, Verónica Ojeda, the lawyer Víctor Stinfale, the neurosurgeon Leopoldo Luque, the psychiatrist Agustina Cosachov, the psychologist Carlos Díaz and the Diego's secretary, Maxi Tamargo.

To contextualize the material, it is important to understand that the doctors and the director of the clinic Pablo Dimitroff recommended that Maradona continue his treatment in a specialized center to recover from his addiction to alcohol.

However, the decision of the family and the doctors was that he advance in his recovery in a home hospitalization, since

Diego himself did not accept to continue in a specialized center and wanted to leave the Olivos Clinic

.

Audio 1: home hospitalization

-Jana Maradona:

My dad will be treated 24/7 by specialist doctors.

I will try to be as much as possible.

I would like it to be coordinated as every day, who enters.

All of us who are here are on the list of those who can enter without opposition, but it would be good to say: who goes on Monday, Tuesday ... Also coordinate it with the team of doctors, which is the best.


-Dalma Maradona:

Yes, sorry, I also wanted to say that it can work better for him if we're not all there, like….

And may he not be alone!

-Jana Maradona:

No, no ...

-Dalma Maradona:

We have to organize

ourselves

for that and I think that we are all going to agree, that it is good to have an organization and add everyone for the same.

Or respect what we are trying to make as fast as possible.

We know that he is not an easy person but it is not the first time and we will all collaborate for the same.

Audio 2: Respect Diego's decision

-Jana Maradona:

Yesterday at the doctors' meeting they told us that there were two paths.

One, an admission to a center and then the home hospitalization.

We agreed and we think that home hospitalization is the best way to solve this, to get it done.

And in case it gets out of hand ...

-Dalma Maradona:

Sorry, but the option of placing him in a place for his motor recovery had to be voluntary.

And that was never going to happen.

-Gianinna Maradona: Forget it

!

-Dalma Maradona:

So we said 'well, if that option doesn't work, let's go to the other one'.

It will be difficult?

Yes!

But we all agree that being able that way can be a little easier and if that, God forbid, fails, we have the other option that we had, ultimately, so that nothing happens to him.

But first, putting all the cards on home hospitalization.

-Verónica Ojeda:

It seems perfect to me.

-Leopoldo Luque:

Can I make a comment?

-Dalma Maradona:

Yes, obviously !.

-Leopoldo Luque:

I think there are things that no matter how much we talk about them, we need to put them into practice, and in practice we are going to learn how to do them.

And I say this not to ... so that in the future there are no disappointments or that no one gets sad that it failed because it will be part of the treatment.

Because everything that we are planning, Diego has a thousand arguments to throw it away.

-Dalma Maradona:

And without arguments too!

-Leopoldo Luque:

And without arguments too.

That is why I believe that we must seek to improve the quality of life, I do not know if it will be optimal as we wish, but it will improve the quality of life.

That when there is a problem we look for a solution.

I ask for this and I'm sorry if I get into family problems, but what one looks for as a professional is that when there is a problem we put personal problems aside and look for a solution.

-Giannina Maradona: I

totally agree ...

-Leopoldo Luque:

That is what one looks for.

Because sometimes what happens to us with Agustina (Cosachov) is that we see that sometimes we are worrying more about the outside than about the patient, and that should not happen.

-Dalma Maradona:

It shouldn't be a topic.

-Leopoldo Luque:

It shouldn't be a topic.

-Gianinna Maradona:

They realized that coordinating with the three of us, at the time talking about what they spoke to each one of us, we agreed knowing that what we want is for him to be well, for him to live well, and that be happy.

I am speaking to you which is why I spoke to both of them earlier.

-Leopoldo Luque:

Yes, we all agree.

-Verónica Ojeda:

Yes, we all agree, I speak for myself and for my son.

-Leopoldo Luque:

I spoke with everyone separately.

-Jana Maradona:

And Diego Junior also agrees, that is, that is not up for discussion ...

-Leopoldo Luque:

For this reason, as we all agree on this, I ask that sometimes we put personal issues instead of looking for a solution.

-Gianinna Maradona:

Sometimes we put personal issues and sometimes something that is not good comes to him.

The children will be around forever and everything is fine ... and then sometimes he becomes a problem or becomes bad blood for things that should not be bad blood.

And do not speak, do not say, no, excuse me, love ... It seems to me that here we are all older, here we can all speak, and we are all gathered here just for him.

-Leopoldo Luque:

I remarked that to them.

In this type of ideas, thousands of problems will arise and you have to be aware that you have to be strong and find solutions, find solutions.

When I listened to the doctors proposing hospitalization, that would have been a disaster in my understanding.

And home hospitalization is going to be difficult again.

-Gianinna Maradona:

We agree that the three of us said yesterday that we did not want to admit him.

-Leopoldo Luque:

We all agree on that.

-Gianinna Maradona:

Because that way is misunderstood and we are the sons of bitches who want to intern him against his will and not ...

Audio 3: Mistrust of Dr. Luque 

-Leopoldo Luque:

In theory it is very nice, but sometimes putting it into practice is difficult.

Now, if you ask me 'the chance that this works, what is it?'

It's low, honestly, I think it's low.

But at the same time I think it is the only one.

-Víctor Stinfale:

It is necessary.

-Leopoldo Luque:

Exactly.

And what are the features or what needs to be done so that there is the slightest chance that it will work?

What Gianinna said: that we all commit.

Audio 4: Adjust Medication

-Dalma Maradona:

In fact they told us, something that for me is not a minor fact, is that they are now trying to not have him sedated like a horse and that he does not know what he is doing, they are trying.

Sometimes he is more aggressive, sometimes less.

-Carlos Díaz:

They are looking for the point.

-Dalma Maradona:

That ... They don't even want to go

overboard

to take care of his health, nor do they want him to beat you up.

So they are like testing and they explained to us that testing is slow and until they give him exactly what he needs, it is difficult.

Audio 5: The daughters stand up and take the alcohol out of him

-Víctor Stinfale:

There is another topic here as well.

There are times when Diego stands up to you.

That is, as long as everything works normal ... But when I say to you: 'Who are you?'

What are we going to do there?

-Dalma Maradona: That

already happened below, when they change the therapeutic companion.

-Víctor Stinfale:

Because here in the hospital, they give him a pichicata and he sleeps.

-Gianinna Maradona:

That's what we said yesterday, she's going to kick her out, she's going to call me and she's going to kick me out, she's going to call Dalma… So on.

But if we all stand in the same position ... Now if I tell him, come dad, I'm going to take you for a beer, I'm going to be the best daughter in the world, I'm going to be a genius.

-Dalma Maradona:

For him.

-Gianinna Maradona:

Yes, but actually I am a son of a bitch because I am killing him slowly.

-Víctor Stinfale:

That's why what we need is a guard.

What I say is in day-to-day practice.

In the medical part I understand something from situations that I experienced.

I'm talking to him, I started to know Luque now.

As I told you at the time that it seemed like one thing to me, and then I told you now it seems another.

I am convinced of something: Diego loves Luque and against that ... It may be good, bad, it may be a nine, a ten, but Diego loves you and against that there is nothing.

Then, he will listen to you.

-Jana Maradona:

Also trusts, trusts fully.

-Víctor Stinfale:

He told me 'I want him to operate on me', he told me.

He knows you and told you: 'Come help me.'

That is totally clear to me, that is why I believe that Leopoldo is one of the most important things in this case.

Another patient: pichicata to sleep and take him to the hospital.

But this one you will not be able to do.

-Leopoldo Luque:

That which Víctor raises happens, it is planted, it is constant, it really is constant.

-Dalma Maradona:

We already had that problem here.

It is not necessary to know what will happen to another psychiatrist because it already happened to us here.

-Víctor Stinfale:

But here Dalma, here is a problem for the doctors.

No no no;

but it is a problem of the doctors.

The doctors are going to tie him to a bed and put a piquette on him if he swells his balls.

If it happens to you in a hospital, what do you do? "

-Carlos Díaz:

You will.

-Víctor Stinfale:

Here we have the solution.

-Carlos Díaz:

And then you contain it.

-Víctor Stinfale:

But not there.

For example, you are the owner of a hospital: what do you do with Maradona in a hospital?

Nobody comes in first.

Second, everyone who is here is going to make a list and they will not be able to be there for more than ten minutes.

There is no doctor from elsewhere here.

-Gianinna Maradona:

But it is very important to follow that.

If they tell us that at home it has to continue that way.

-Dalma Maradona:

We all agree to help him.

-Víctor Stinfale:

Listen: nobody wants anything to happen to him, we all agree on that.

Well then.

But in practice, if that doctor isn't there ... because Leopoldo is going to be able to direct all of those.

But we need more people, a nurse who is there 24 hours a day.

No Maxi giving him the pill, pill, pill.

-Dalma Maradona:

No, no, that can't happen anymore.

-Víctor

Stinfale:

Pill, pill, pill, but then Maxi doesn't want to and Maxi ends up fighting with Diego.

-Dalma:

No, no, that is not its function either, it does not have to be in that place.

Audio 6: In the hands of a new doctor

-Verónica Ojeda:

When Diego leaves here he has to go to that new house and he has to keep in mind that he has to do the hospitalization just as he does here.

So it is not that he is going to move to another new house because it is new and new life.

Not!

-Víctor Stinfale:

I know what I think, I think there has to be the doctor who doesn't know who fights with him, and the one who loosens up afterwards has to be the one with him.

-Giannina Maradona:

Today the doctor told us, the tall man, that it is like we have to take turns saying 'no'.

Today I say 'no' I, tomorrow she says it and so on ... But we have to take turns to agree.

Obviously, handling them with people who know, I can do it from a daughter's place, not from a professional's place.

-Víctor Stinfale:

For me, the professional who gives a shout has to be there.

Let him scream.

Let him yell at you, Leopoldo.

And you're going to eat the slaps.

And you have no other choice ... But let's see, I've known Diego for many years and at some point it will become very complicated. "

Audio 7: Zero Alcohol

-Carlos Díaz:

My name is Carlos Díaz, I am a psychologist and they called me recently because I specialize in addictions.

I wanted to tell you a couple of things about this.

In the first place, regarding the therapeutic, it seems to me that Diego has to be with daily therapeutic activities, we do not base ourselves only on medical care as surveillance.

I understand that surveillance or control has a limit in all this, right?

-Gianinna Maradona:

This is where China is going to rebel.

-Carlos Díaz:

He is going to rebel with everything.

But it is clear from experience that you cannot take a drop of alcohol.

Here it is zero alcohol, it is a hundred percent abstainer.

The same thing that we talked with Agustina and with the team on the subject of psychotropic drugs, have everything she takes accounted for, that is, pill by pill.

There does not have to be room for error because there is a natural tendency to always go for more.

-Dalma Maradona:

And because it has already happened and we ended up with the result that we ended up like this in a clinic.

It is already known that this does not work for him in any way.

Audio 8: The Care Schedule

-Gianinna Maradona:

But for me, that responsibility has to be taken away from Maxi.

For me it is how it happens to us now to come here to the clinic.

I can go early and you in the afternoon.

And the next day it will be different and coordinated.

-Víctor Stinfale:

Can that be put together?

-Jana Maradona:

Yes, of course.

-Gianinna Maradona:

Yes, of course.

In the clinic we did it and it worked perfectly.

-Jana Maradona:

In principle that's what then, putting together a schedule.

Ask who can go, who can come.

There will always be someone in the house that I imagine is Jony and they can communicate with him or with me and I promise to stay as many days as possible, while other people cannot be.

But yes, we all communicate.

Type: 'Today I'm going, tomorrow it's your turn'.

-Gianinna Maradona:

And something very important to have a talk with the people of Swiss Medical who can advise us what is the best we can do.

Audio 9: The Containment of Friends

-Carlos Díaz:

I think it would be good to put together a well-established schedule with all the people that you, as daughters, consider to be important and add to it.

Maybe people from the past, people of value.

But every day he has to have a meaningful encounter outside of what is the most containment network that has to do with this, with putting up with it.

If not, there has to be another leg in all this.

As we cannot carry out a classic device, which would be the ideal, the only thing I can think of as an alternative has to do with this.

Well I don't know, '86 Champions, whatever.

That they connect it with something else, and not with the disease.

That they don't connect him with: 'I'm done shit and they come to restrain me so I don't suck', but rather connect him with the healthiest part of him.

That may be good.

And try to generate something more systematic.

Because this is a 24 hour effort.

It is one day at a time.

We cannot project too much nor can we neglect 24 hours.

So I think it is good to connect it daily with something cool, something healthy and not with the disease.

Because one thing is the love of the daughter and another thing is the love of a daughter who is here so that I do not drink.

-Dalma Maradona:

So you don't feel that?

-Carlos Díaz:

Because you are going to feel it.

And the only way to disconnect it is through sports and these kinds of issues.

That's where you guys come in.

-Gianinna Maradona: A mí me lo dijo hoy: '¿Vos estás acá para que yo no me vaya, para que no rompa todo, no?'.

Audio 10: Diego desayunaba vino o cerveza

-Jana Maradona: Pero si vos le explicás que no tome alcohol porque está tomando una medicación, igual es como si nada. Yo le expliqué también más de una vez.

-Dalma Maradona: Ya nos imaginamos esta cosa porque ya lo hemos vivido. El a veces toma algo, se siente mal y va a vomitar, y después vuelve a tomar como de cero.

-Jana Maradona: El otro día vomitó el sushi: 'Un té', no, 'Una copa de vino'.

-Dalma Maradona: O sea, no es normal ¿entendés?

-Carlos Díaz: Igual dos cosas: una cosa es un adicto en carrera que viene tomando todos los días. Ahí desayuna con champagne y es lo mismo. Acá se ganó tiempo limpio. Y eso es fundamental, pero hay que capitalizar el tiempo limpio.

-Verónica Ojeda: Sí, pero eso es algo que Diego te lo hacía….

-Carlos Díaz: ¿Cómo?

-Verónica Ojeda: Hay días que lo hacía: se levantaba y pedía una copa de vino o una cerveza.

Audio 11: Mentirle para sembrarle miedo

-Agustina Cosachov: Yo creo que todos tenemos que pensar una estrategia de porque decirle que no tome alcohol.

-Gianinna Maradona: Eso, sí, totalmente.

-Agustina Cosachov: Acá lo que decíamos de crear cierta cuestión de miedo, temor.

-Leopoldo Luque: Creo que la cirugía cerebral, tiene que hacer eso.

- Agustina Cosachov: Algo que a él le genere un límite que capaz no se lo maneja, pero ir sembrando algo.

-Dalma Maradona: Cuando él se quería ir le dije: 'Mirá, tenés un poquito de fiebre'. Y no importa si no tenía fiebre, pero a mí eso me sirvió para que se quede en la cama. No sé, por ahí no tiene fiebre, pero si sirve.

-Jana Maradona: O decirle que se cayó, por eso el golpe en la cabeza.

-Agustina Cosachov: Tenemos que encontrarle una estrategia común para...

-Carlos Díaz: Una pequeña cosa no y te dejo Víctor. En primer lugar que siempre puede tocar más fondo. Por experiencia el susto le dura dos semanas, después en definitiva ya está. El susto más de tratar de apuntar te puede pasar esto, en la próxima te puede pasar lo otro.

O sea que en su cabeza siempre tiene más cuerda, más haya de que en la realidad no. Otra cuestión importante es juntarnos todos con él. Hay que hacer reuniones sistemáticas y vinculares, me parece que lo clave tiene que ver con esto, ¿no?

Audio 12: Los exjugadores le piden plata

-Víctor Stinfale: La historia de le cortan el teléfono y le cierran la puerta… Acá tiene que haber un corte de teléfono y un cierre de puerta ordenado.

-Dalma Maradona: Sí, en qué sentido...

-Victor Stinfale: Porque acá va a ver una restricción de entrada.

-Dalma Maradona: Sí, por supuesto.

-Víctor Stinfale: Porque acá te viene, Yo el otro día escuchaba a Ruggeri. 'Yo voy y le rompo la puerta si no me dejan pasar'. Bueno, Ruggeri es un ejemplo de lo que hizo el tipo. Pero capaz que hay diez personas que quieren ver a Maradona, cinco para saludarlo y cinco para pedirle plata. ¿Son concientes?".

-Gianinna Maradona: Pero directamente como es un barrio cerrado, no le llegan a la puerta.

-Víctor Stinfale: Bueno, eso es bueno. Pero lo llaman, lo llaman.

-Gianinna Maradona: Le cambiaron tantas veces el número, se lo pueden cambiar otra vez.

-Víctor Stinfale: Sí, pero eso tienen que estar de acuerdo todas, porque si no después el que le cambia el número, pasa a ser Maxi que está al lado y es el hijo de su madre que le pone la…

-Dalma Maradona: No, no, eso pasó porque a veces las únicas que no podíamos comunicarnos éramos nosotras dos.

-Víctor Stinfale: Yo lo que digo es. Vamos a meternos en esta situación que puede llegar a pasar. Como te puede llegar a pasar a vos le puede pasar a Gianinna, mañana le puede pasar a Mati, le puede pasar a Maxi, esto les puede pasar. Yo digo: ¡El que no se puede comunicar por teléfono y está en la lista, que venga, entre, y patee la puerta!

-Dalma Maradona: Ok, está perfecto.

-Víctor Stinfale: No hay un teléfono, si no se pueden comunicar por teléfono, acá hay una autorización, la firman las hijas, todos los que sean parientes. Todos estos pueden entrar al country. Esta es la lista. Al que no le atiende el teléfono que venga, mire, abre la puerta y entre. Aunque sean 50, 100, o 25. No lo sé, lo que digo es, al que no lo pueden atender por teléfono, que vaya, entre y le patee la puerta".

-Dalma Maradona: Ok, pero entonces él va a tener un teléfono.

-Víctor Stinfale: Tiene que tener un teléfono, si no tiene teléfono, no tiene tarjeta y no tiene a Dior, chau, vuela por el aire.

-Dalma Maradona: Pregunto porque por ahí los médicos dicen que no tiene que tener teléfono.

-Víctor Stinfale: Tiene que tener teléfono, no tiene manera, el mejor y programado, ya sabés. Pero lo que yo digo es acá va a pasar porque es una realidad, que acá una vez que se le corta el teléfono, chicas todos los ex jugadores lo mangan, todos, todos, todos, todos, todos.

-Dalma Maradona: Sí, eso sí, no solo los ex jugadores, ya se sabe cómo es.

-Víctor Stinfale: Entonces, es imposible que Maradona atienda el teléfono a todo el mundo. Ahora, después, vos me decís, bárbaro dio la casualidad de que el tipo se bloqueó, te bloqueó. Bueno hija, te bloqueó, están cerca, cáiganle. De La Plata esta incomunicado, en La Plata no podía estar. Porque La Plata para llegar hasta allá es una horita, una horita y pico, y no tiene cualquiera ganas.

-Dalma Maradona: Ni siquiera es por las ganas, por cualquier cosa estás lejos.

-Víctor Stinfale: No tenés tiempo, no tenés tiempo… Acá tenemos todo y estamos todos están cerca. ¿Que pueden tardar 40 minutos? Bueno que caigan y le patean la puerta. Acá cual es el límite: '¿Dónde está Diego?: Durmiendo'. Bueno abrí la puerta, entrá y míralo que está durmiendo.

DR

Source: clarin

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