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Salvation in the cross-examination: We have well hidden the interference in political content

The cross-examination phase of the former Walla! CEO, the main witness in the 4000 case, began in the Jerusalem District Court, about two weeks after the main investigation was completed. At the request of the defense attorneys, Yeshua's investigation will be extended for 20 days.

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• Tree of salvation

• Benjamin Netanyahu

• File 4000

• bribe

• fraud

• Breach of trust

• The Jerusalem District Court

Meirav Cohen

Tuesday, 04 May 2021, 09:00 Updated: 10:11

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In the video: Netanyahu's trial: Ilan Yeshua's cross-examination in the 4000 case has begun (Walla system!)

Stage cross-examination of CEO Walla former Ilan Yeshua, began this morning (Tuesday) within the portfolio of 4000 the Jerusalem District Court. The cross-examination took place two weeks after the end of the investigation beginning, and at the request of defense attorneys will last for 20 days of debate.

The materials provided by the Salvation police are The ones that led to the opening of the 4000 case. In this case, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is suspected of granting regulatory benefits to the owners of the former Walla! Website - the couple Shaul and Iris Elowitz - in exchange for skewing the coverage on the website.

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The cross-examination will last 20 days.

Salvation in court, about two weeks ago (Photo: Flash 90, Jonathan Zindel)

At the beginning of the interrogation, Yeshua was asked by attorney Jacques Chen, Shaul Shlovitch's defense attorney, why he did not record the meetings with the Elowitz couple, even though he testified that he used to record conversations. Yeshua replied that he did not record the meetings, and that he was morally the phone in advance of his own.

Chen

: During an initial investigation police did not you say that you have recordings, just came home remembering the app.

salvation

: I did not remember the tape. what I just hiding? I passed the phone in a day, it shows you that I am not afraid. what you are saying? I earned a time of 24 hours. You show drama, but after a day I passed the phone.

Chen

: The disappearing calls were only revealed to us on the eve of your testimony, including deleting calls. You say you did not remember recording a discussion of people.

Salvation

: I only note that within 24 hours I submitted Everything.

Prosecutor Liat Ben-Ari in court, today (Photo: Flash 90, Yonatan Zindel)

At this stage, introduced Chen investigative reporter of "The Seventh Eye" Oren Persico, in July 2013, which stated that attempts by management Walla bend the judgment of the reporter system, and that enables them to establish a union.

Salvation

: It's coming elections Of 2013, so there was increasing intervention in various censorship methods.Saul started with his pressure eight months earlier.Attributed everything to commercial interests, you ask were my interventions as CEO for commercial rather than political reasons? Yes, but with a different frequency.

Chen

: In the paragraph I read, 30 journalists talk about coverage biases, talk about the commercial interests of the company, nothing to do with Netanyahu.

Salvation

: Journalists know one thing, but Likud campaigns can be commercial on their part.

Chen

: It's completely different from what you're talking about in interfering with political material.

At this stage, continued Chen read the article, noting a sentence stating that "Jesus did not deny that he subordinates and betting system." Chen asked his salvation if he remembers who was interviewed by reporters in the article, and is subjected coverage Walla! In favor of commercial interests.

Salvation

: Yes, Everyone does it and so do we. In the balance between commercial and systemic considerations for journalists - the commercial wins. It could have been a mistake.

Chen

: In the main investigation you said you did not interfere in the content.

Salvation

: There is certainly the editor's intervention in the content, it's a matter of quantity .

Iris and Shaul Elovich in court, today (Photo: Flash 90, Yonatan Zindel)

Advocate Chen re-read from the article, "The CEO is involved at the level of an editor, he looks at himself as the publisher of the site." Yeshua replied that our culture on the site was minimal, and was carried out in the same way as in all other news sites. The site was low, so he had to intervene from time to time.

Advocate Chen read another sentence in which it was stated that "salvation comes to almost every shift to the desk and is involved in everything." To which Yeshua replied that the site was in its infancy and therefore intervention was needed on his part: "I would not have attended system meetings or been at the desk." Salvation was then asked about the departure of editor-in-chief Avi Meshulam, who according to reporters in the article was "the first breaking point."

Chen

: Was Meshulam an employee of Bezeq or Walla?

Salvation

: Walla! She was part of the Bezeq group, so she will not write anything against Yes, nor will she write enthusiastically about Hot. it makes sense. He was a Walla !, reporter.But we will not write against Bezeq.

Adv. Chen later read from the testimony of the police of Aviram Elad, former editor-in-chief of Walla !, in which he said that "at that time there was a decision that if there were publications against Bezeq, we would do a special meeting." Yeshua replied that he "does not know if we would do A special session. "

Hen

: Is it true that you believe would prevent from writing news against other companies in the company?

salvation

: this is an order from underworld. in an ideal world this is not true, but that's how it works in reality.

Chen

: I immediately show you that it is not true that it was moderated by Paul. Do you want to repeat your answer?

Salvation

: Yes, even without Saul I would decide not to publish articles against Bezeq.

Chen

: One of Walla's letters said that you are actually the editor of Walla !, and any article you want or do not want will come up.

Salvation

: I do not think I would More involved than any other CEO.

"Even without Shaul, I would have decided not to publish articles against Bezeq."

Salvation in court, today (Photo: Flash 90, Jonathan Zindel)

Previous testimonies of salvation

In his previous appearances before the Jerusalem District Court, Yeshua described the mood on the Walla! During the years at the center of the affair, his dealings with Shaul and Iris Alovich, as well as his relations with those who acted on behalf of Netanyahu.

In his testimony, Yeshua recounted, among other things, how Elovich asked him to upload or download items related to the Netanyahu family, including those dealing with the prime minister's wife, as well as to prevent the uploading of negative opinion pieces. Yeshua described that due to the large number of requests they received, "the norm was that we do not actually edit the site."

During the testimony, a correspondence was presented in which Yeshua congratulates Elovich on the Bezeq-Yes transaction on the day it was signed. Elovich confessed back to salvation and said he had a contribution to make. In previous testimonies, conversations were heard between him and former Bezeq CEO Stella Handler, in which she expressed concern that the company would be harmed by the way Netanyahu covered the site.

Discussions in the 4000 case will resume.

Netanyahu in court, about a month ago (Photo: Official website, Oren Ben Hakon)

Since an indictment was filed last January, the proceedings conducted in the cases have been mainly requests by defense attorneys for the transfer of investigative materials, and requests to dismiss the indictment due to various flaws allegedly alleged in the work of the police and prosecutors.

The evidentiary stage, is the main part of the trial in which the prosecution tries to prove the guilt of the defendants, and to that end presents evidence and proof to the court.

According to estimates, the evidentiary phase in the Alpine cases may last about two years, even though the judges ruled that the hearings will take place with a particularly high frequency - three times a week.

The list of prosecution witnesses has about 330 witnesses, but it is estimated that for a large part of them the prosecution and the defense will agree to submit their testimony to the police, without putting them on the witness stand.

This is an accepted procedure that happens in almost every case, and certainly in cases of this magnitude.

Evidence Phase Schedule

The evidentiary phase opens

in the 4000 case

- the Bezeq-Walla affair - in which Netanyahu is accused of bribery, fraud and breach of trust, and the Elowitz couple are accused of bribery. The first group of witnesses will include, in addition to salvation, other former Walla! State witness Shlomo Pilber, who was close to Netanyahu and served as director general of the Ministry of Communications at the relevant time.

The second group of witnesses was also supposed to include witnesses related to the 4000 case, but recently the prosecution decided to transfer businessman Arnon Milchen and his personal assistant. Hadas Klein The two are key witnesses in the

1000 case

, In which the prime minister is accused of fraud and breach of trust due to receiving huge sums of money from Milchen and billionaire James Packer.

Affair benefits was supposed to sign the evidentiary stage, but after the prosecution proved that Milchan was in contact with former defense counsel, attorney Boaz Ben Tzur, who represents today the Netanyahu decided to bring forward the testimony of Milchan and Klein.

After ending the witnesses related For the 4000 case, the prosecution will move to the 2000 case

, which deals with recorded conversations between Netanyahu and Yedioth Ahronoth publisher Noni Mozes.

Netanyahu is accused in this case of fraud and breach of trust, while Mozes is accused of offering Netanyahu a bribe.

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