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He is one of the founders of the IDF Robot Army. Now he will be the one to operate it

Deadly autonomous tools and skimmer bands that communicate with each other are part of Chief of Staff Kochavi's revolutionary vision in the IDF.

Prior to taking up the post of Chief of the Operations Division at the IDF General Staff, Brigadier General Oded recounted the future battlefield he had created and the operational goals to which the IDF was striving. Interview

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Amir Bohbot

Saturday, 08 May 2021, 15:15 Updated: 15:17

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In the video: Training of skimmer bands in the IDF (Photo: IDF Spokesman)

1992, the days of the security zone in southern Lebanon.

Observations in Lebanon reported a mushroom smoke and a crazy explosive sound.

A tank from the Shomriya outpost in the Taibeh village, west of Metula, was hit by an anti-tank missile. The connection collapsed and it was not possible to speak to the tank crew. The rescue mission was assigned to the young officer, Lt.

The trip to the area took three nerve-wracking hours and included an exchange of fire between Basiuk's tank and Hezbollah operatives. In retrospect, it turned out that the platoon commander, Basiok's friend, was killed, and in addition a fighter on the team was wounded and another fighter suffered a battle shock. The tank driver Mishke, whose name in Siuk will never forget, decided to return to the post but accidentally continued in the opposite direction, went down to Wadi Saluki which was saturated with anti-tank squads, and entered without knowing a minefield. Darkness descended. , Stepped into the minefield on foot and rescued the force. Finally he was also forced to threaten a UN force that blocked his way, because he did not understand why suddenly an Israeli tank returns from a Lebanese-controlled area beyond the Red Line.

"It was my first combat experience," says Brigadier General Basyok, who will soon end his role as head of the planning division in the General Staff's Planning Division. This event was his founding experience. The importance of the methods and the means of combat I practiced, "he says." If you have methods - you have everything.

If not here's a new product just for you!

That's why I always told myself that if I could reasonably tell my subordinates what would happen in the run-up to the next campaign, and train them correctly and give the right weapons, then I did mine. It matters immensely. "

Just before he receives the rank of Major General and is appointed head of the General Staff's Operations Division, one of the most sensitive positions in the IDF, he tells Walla!

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"If you have methods - you have everything. If not - you only have yourself."

Brigadier General Oded Basiuk, February 2021 (Photo: IDF Spokesman)

During the Second Lebanon War, he commanded the 7th Armored Brigade. On the third day of the war he realized that everything he had been taught as a tanker only endangered his soldiers in the tangle of anti-tank battles. His experience in the war shaped his conception of innovation. One day he fought on the Almond ridge near the border. "I did not manage to give him an order to fly back and he hijacked four missiles from Maron a-Ras."

After complex days of fighting, Basiuk was ordered to arrive with an armored force to cross a pattern, 17 km from the border. He summoned two company commanders and demanded that the entire route be planned contrary to the methods taught to them. "Have you been taught to travel in open areas to this day? Do the opposite. Travel in orchards and in villages. It will not be possible to fire long-range anti-aircraft guns at you. "I had a force that traveled 17 miles in six hours and was not fired a single bullet at. There I realized the importance of being able to change at the right time," he says.

"In Lebanon, I understood the importance of being able to change at the right time." Armored columns in the Second Lebanon War (Photo: IDF Spokesman)

When he commanded an exercise in 2011, the deputy chief of staff, Major General Yair Naveh, who was known as a very tough officer, came to visit. "Where is your brigade?" He asked, and Siok replied, "Here around you." Basiuk replied confidently, "Exactly. This is the novelty. You will see a tank when he has to shoot. Look for ten seconds and he will disappear. "Naveh replied in a critical tone," You do not control your brigade, it can not be. "The

deputy chief of staff went on a field tour to see up close the location of the tanks while the exercise got underway. At the end he told Basyuk, "You surprised me. The whole division is here. And what you told me really happens."

As a brigadier general in command of the 162nd Division of the Southern Command, he was chosen to lead a think tank with high-tech people - to plan what the robot fighter will look like as part of the IDF's maneuver in ten years. "I know what we planned. I know what's going on today.If I look ten years ahead - it will change the fighting fundamentally. The battlefield will look different. At first we called it a 'ghost army'. "

Position paper classified transferred individually chief of staff pointed out the use of robots semi-autonomous air, sea and land, but not only individually but also in groups. Every one robot knows the other and together divide the task in defense or attack.

"Sounds far?" He asks , And continues with a smile, "The pace of progress is very high.

Look at today's skimmer world.

If I were to describe it to you ten years ago?

It would have been hallucinatory.

Thousands of cheap little tools?

You would say 'can not be'. "

Each robot recognizes another and together divides the task in defense or attack.

Skimmers in the IDF (Photo: Walla !, Default)

Chief of Staff Major General Aviv Kochavi approved a few weeks ago, in a classified discussion, to purchase double-digit heavy skimmer bands by the end of 2021 for the maneuvering companies, for defense and attack missions. By definition in the General Staff, this is the first swallow of robots. This is the first time we publish pictures of the skimmer band from one of the IDF's training in the field. This is a tool that will be used and will be used a lot by the IDF.

"In the next decade, the scope of autonomous robotics on the battlefield will be very high. I'm talking about a team that will run a band of something. I can not elaborate. We already have several such projects that will be ready in two more years. One team to run a band of something? This is already happening. I'm talking about the fact that in the coming years there will be dozens to hundreds of instruments of various types, not necessarily aerial, that will operate as a band. "

The Chief of Staff appointed Brigadier General Basik to head the Planning Division in 2019. A very sensitive position in the General Staff, which is usually embedded in the best minds of the IDF. And act to implement priorities.

"The chief of staff's vision speaks of an army with autonomous tools.

An information-based, deadly and accurate army.

"An army that denies the enemy's capabilities at a high rate and does not only look at the occupation of territory - which is an important issue, but it is not necessarily related to the era of terrorist armies and various organizations," Brigadier General Basiok describes the direction.

"The Chief of Staff's vision speaks of an army with autonomous tools." Kochavi, September 2020 (Photo: IDF Spokesman)

Some of the classified projects were recognized by Siok before he took office and some were recognized by the movement. Some of them had to be refined and planned, and some of them had to find budget sources, and this is where the hard work began. Already in the first year, the Chief of Staff worked to expand resources for the ICT Division and the Armed Forces realized that without them his ideas would not be realized to produce much real-time intelligence, quickly make it accessible to companies and departments and at the same time turn the IDF into a high-tech smart army.

The next step was to advance the exact armament project.

"The army is in a revolution. 2021 will be a significant turning point in the quantity and quality of accurate armament and in terms of lethality. In all cuts, not just for the Air Force," Basik says, "today you can understand quite clearly that it will be difficult to decide without maneuvering Where the enemy's capabilities lie. To do this not only need to transfer information quickly and continuously, but also adjust the scope and types of armament to the battlefield. I did not have a single red dot that my lieutenant colonel put on the map all war.

I knew nothing.

Most of the time I gave caps in the air.

You knew about enemy infrastructure in advance.

It has no meaning.

Why?

Because if you know about infrastructure in advance why do you need me?

The plane will be honored and attacked.

In the next war, you are going to look for the capabilities that the Air Force does not know how to attack. "

"In the next war we will look for the capabilities that the Air Force does not know how to attack."

Brigadier General Basiuk, April 2021 (Photo: IDF Spokesman)

As the months went by, Brigadier General filled in the board in his office with the names of the classified projects. In small, neat writing and in green. Line after line in which he made sure to emphasize the important ones. The political situation in Israel has worsened, and he suddenly found himself without a budget and in complete uncertainty that threatened to eliminate "momentum," Lt. Col. Kochavi's multi-year plan.

"We were faced with several options. One, start planning over and over again and adjust yourself. We could also go back, because there is no certainty. There is no money. We will eat, drink, train and stop. The choice was different. The army will keep ready at all costs, and throughout the two years He trained and did operational activities for Tiferet and paid salaries. "

In the first part of the priesthood from July 2019 to January 2020, he made sure to plan the year 1880, for 80 different discussions, most of them at night. The second part, until a few weeks ago, included the implementation of the year 1818.Q "Swing".

"The method of implementation? Determination. If I had collected the amount of people who said all the way to me and the chief of staff and how many more we are disconnected, that it is a regret and there will be nothing, I could have filled Teddy Stadium. Everyone said to me, 'Why did you come, you will not do anything,' "says Brigadier General Basiuk. "That. And the other thing was fighting a battle. We chose what was most important each time and went for it. Whoever meets the IDF in the next war will meet a more deadly and accurate IDF, but there is another way to do it."

Brigadier General Basyuk is particularly proud of the multi-billion shekel funding outline for the purchase of heavy transport helicopters, refueling and armament aircraft, and more despite opposition from finance officials and government approval. "It was a battle that lasted a year.

It was possible to fall out of this battle a hundred times along the way.

We have approved the acquisition of the IDF armaments, the digital land army deal, plans for a decade ahead in the field of air defense systems on a huge scale. The world of air defense is on the verge of a second revolution. Its purpose? Developed with a view to the future. "

"We have approved the acquisition of the IDF armament, the digital land army deal, plans for a decade ahead in the field of air defense systems." (Photo: IDF Spokesman)

The corona crisis affected the IDF's budget and conduct, and despite the uncertainty, the army was able to accompany the Ministry of Health and other civilian organizations in the medical crisis.

"Every time they talked about harming pensions, it shook the organization," says Basiok. Because the army is within the Kahlon-Ya'alon agreement, according to which it is said that in 2020 changes will be discussed in it, but today there is no one with whom. The agreement imposes restrictions on a number of issues including the scope of permanent staff, mix, retirement age. Various conditions and more. This is a critical event for the military. I could not do that. This is a point that bothers me a lot. Because here we need to maintain the quality advantage and the attractiveness of the service in all worlds: in combat and in command and technology. There is competition with citizenship. "

He did not hesitate when asked if the IDF was approaching being a professional army. "No," he says, "we still maintain being a people's army with all the limitations that exist.

If we do not become one, the IDF will not have the initial locator of the manpower from which it begins. For example, in cyber we are in a very significant process in defense and attack, in the acquisition of very advanced computing. "This is the most complex field I have dealt with. The head of the ACA and the head of the planning department have a great challenge."

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