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Habeck with clear words about the Palmer scandal: "It would have been great, Boris would have just kept quiet"

2021-05-13T21:24:50.249Z


Green politician Boris Palmer causes a racism scandal with statements about Dennis Aogo. A party exclusion process has now been initiated. News ticker.


Green politician Boris Palmer causes a racism scandal with statements about Dennis Aogo.

A party exclusion process has now been initiated.

News ticker.

  • Boris Palmer called Dennis Aogo a “bad racist” on Facebook (

    see first report

    ).

  • The Greens in Baden-Württemberg have initiated a party exclusion process (

    see update from May 8, 2:55 p.m.

    ).

    Palmer himself made a recommendation for this

    (see update from May 8, 7:14 p.m.)

    .

  • Party leader Robert Habeck has described the proceedings against Boris Palmer as "inevitable"

    (see update from May 10, 2:59 p.m.).

  • The news ticker on Boris Palmer's statements is continuously updated.

Update from May 10th, 2:45 p.m.:

At a press conference on Monday

afternoon

, Green Party leader Robert Habeck once again commented on the Palmer cause. “Boris Palmer has posted sentences that are unworthy of a Lord Mayor. That are offensive. They are racist, ”stated the 51-year-old. Habeck, who, by his own account, knows Palmer personally well, reports of repeated advances on his part, which would now end in a party exclusion process: “We have tried again and again to sort things out in the background. Formal proceedings have now been initiated. From my point of view that was inevitable. "

The party leader stated that he had spoken to Palmer personally before the proceedings were initiated, but that the decision was now completely left to the responsible bodies.

However, Habeck did not make a personal assessment of whether Palmer should be expelled from the party.

"Out of respect for the procedure, I will not anticipate the judgment," said the 51-year-old.

"It would have been great if Boris would have just kept quiet," said Habeck, also with a view to the upcoming general election.

Palmer defends himself after Aogo scandal: the schedule for possible exclusion from the Greens is in place

Update from May 10, 7.45 a.m.:

With his controversial statements, Tübingen's mayor Boris Palmer did not want to catch any attention in his own words. "No, that was not a calculation, nor a provocation for the public," wrote the 48-year-old on Monday morning on Facebook. “I had no idea what earthquake I would trigger again.” The Greens accuse their party colleague of racism because of a statement about former national soccer player Dennis Aogo, who has a Nigerian father, and want to throw him out of the party. The state party conference in Baden-Württemberg had voted for an exclusion procedure against Palmer on Saturday.

The Lord Mayor explained: “I wanted to make one of my long-standing internal party opponents understand how absurd I find his constructed racism allegations by presenting him with a racism allegation that is so completely absurd that even he should have noticed. In a sense, educational satire. ”But he should have thought“ what he would make of it ”. But he could not have imagined, wrote Palmer. "That's why I accept the accusation of naivety."

Update from May 10th, 6:10 am:

Tübingen's green mayor Boris Palmer admitted a mistake in the discussion about his controversial Facebook comment and accused parts of his party at the same time as "exclusion". "Of course it would have been wiser not to post it at all," Palmer told the

Bild

newspaper. But that's not the point. "Arguments in the matter are always welcome, I defend myself against exclusion and denunciation," said Palmer. "Sections of the party's political leadership have committed themselves to left-wing identity politics."

Palmer said, “I'm sure the arbitration tribunal will acquit me.

I am being reproached for turning my intentions into the opposite.

In order to clarify this for everyone, I have spoken out in favor of this constitutional procedure. "

Update from May 9, 12.20 p.m.:

The Baden-Württemberg Greens expect that the expulsion process against the mayor of Tübingen, Boris Palmer, could take between three and six months.

The German press agency found out on Sunday in Stuttgart from the Green state leadership.

The state party congress decided on Saturday with a three-quarters majority that the state board should prepare the party regulation procedure and submit it to the competent arbitration tribunal.

The district arbitration commission in Tübingen should be responsible.

Should they exclude Palmer, he could appeal to the regional arbitration tribunal within 30 days of the announcement of the written decision.

After that, an appeal to the Federal Arbitration Court would still be possible.

Exclusion proceedings against the Mayor of Tübingen Boris Palmer at the Greens

Update from May 9, 9:20 a.m.:

The controversial Mayor of Tübingen Boris Palmer (Greens) has commented on the current scandal about himself. At

Welt am Sonntag

he addresses his much-criticized contribution to the debate about the footballers Jens Lehmann and Dennis Aogo, which brought him the accusation of racism. For him an outgrowth of an alleged "cancel culture". “The world just doesn't get any better if you ostracize people and destroy their professional existence because they have said an awkward sentence that you deliberately misunderstand and imply an attitude to careless speakers that they don't have at all,” says Palmer.

He had "exaggerated the allegations against Aogo so absurdly that it would be clear to any understanding reader what my intention was: Using the stylistic device of satire to show how completely unfounded accusations of racism can really be fatal for everyone nowadays."

Palmer calls Aogo a "bad racist": Party exclusion proceedings initiated - he himself advocates that

Update from May 8, 7:14 p.m.:

At the state party conference in the Green Baden-Württemberg on Saturday, a clear majority of the delegates voted for a party exclusion procedure against Boris Palmer

(see update from May 8, 2:55 p.m.)

. Previously, the mayor of Tübingen asked for a counter-speech to the party congress and declared, according to dpa, that it was “baseless and absurd accusations”. The point here is to silence dissenting voices. "Therefore I cannot and will not withdraw." However, he recommended that the party congress approve the motion for an expulsion procedure. Then he finally had the opportunity to defend himself against the allegations. In a contribution to the

world on Sunday

Palmer wrote: “I can never accept ostracism and the annihilation of existence because of an allegedly wrong choice of words.

That damages the core of liberal democracy. "

+

Counter-speech by the Mayor of Tübingen, Boris Palmer, to the application for elimination of the party against him at the online party conference of the Greens in Baden-Württemberg

© Marijan Murat / dpa

Mayor Boris Palmer has to face party exclusion procedures - Kretschmann: "Irony never works in politics"

Update from May 8, 4:11 p.m.:

Baden-Württemberg's Prime Minister Winfried Kretschmann has harshly criticized the Mayor of Tübingen Boris Palmer for his statements about the former national soccer player Dennis Aogo. “You just can't make such statements. That just doesn't work, ”said the green head of government on Saturday on the sidelines of the state party conference in Stuttgart. "I also find it unworthy of a mayor to constantly polarize with provocations." Palmer had previously caused outrage on Facebook with statements about Aogo

(see first report)

. The Green Party Congress voted with a large majority to initiate a party expulsion process against Palmer

(see update from May 8, 2:55 p.m.).

Kretschmann showed his incomprehension that Palmer took up this alleged quote. The Tübingen mayor is a “professional” who needs to know: “Irony never works in politics.” Now we have to wait and see how the regulatory process ends. The 72-year-old head of government and Palmer (48) have long been considered close confidants, they are both super real. But Kretschmann also kept his distance again and again because of Palmer's constant provocative statements. Most recently, however, the Prime Minister had campaigned for rapprochement in mid-December after the state party Palmer suggested leaving the party in May.

The former head of the Green Party, Cem Özdemir, also heavily criticized Palmer.

Actually, they wanted to deal with the green and black coalition agreement in Stuttgart.

"All the more annoying that Boris Palmer knocked out another one." Many Greens rightly had the feeling: "It will be enough." It is also a "damn duty" for a mayor to pay attention to the choice of words.

"If you don't know, you haven't heard the shot." He also doesn't want to deal with the Palmer statements anymore.

"I'm a little tired of doing Palmer exegesis," said the Southwest Greens' top candidate for the federal election.

+

Winfried Kretschmann (Greens), Prime Minister of Baden-Württemberg, followed the counter-speech by the Mayor of Tübingen, Boris Palmer, at the online party conference of the Greens in Baden-Württemberg.

© Marijan Murat / dpa

Boris Palmer: A clear majority votes in favor of committee procedures at the party congress

Update from May 8, 2:55 p.m.:

Boris Palmer is to be excluded from his party in Baden-Württemberg.

At the


state party conference of the Greens, 161 delegates voted for an expulsion procedure, 44 against and 8 abstained.

A party exclusion procedure was initiated.

Update from May 8th, 1:33 p.m.:

After his controversial statements on Facebook and the threat of

expulsion from the

party, Palmer has now

spoken

to the

picture

. The irony in his post would have been evident. In addition, "it was of course clear to me that the Facebook allegations against Aogo that I alluded to were very likely a fake," said Palmer. This refers to the allegations that Aogo had used the N-word himself. Palmer, according to his own statement, would have wanted to draw attention to it: "If you really want to, you can accuse anyone of racism." He considers an exclusion from the party to be an expression of a "repressive climate of opinion."

Meanwhile, this is what is being discussed in the party.

The Green Top in Baden-Württemberg is pushing for an exclusion.

"There is another derailment," said Green Country Manager Oliver Hildenbrand.

The statement was "racist and repulsive".

In addition, Palmer ensures that the public debate is polarized with “staged breaking of taboos”.

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The Greens in Baden-Württemberg want to exclude Boris Palmer from the party.

(Archive image)

© Fabian Sommer / dpa

Boris Palmer interferes in Lehmann-Aogo discussion and receives a shitstorm - racist remarks?

First report from May 8th, 12.41 p.m .:

Tübingen - Tübingen's Lord Mayor Palmer has joined the debate about Jens Lehmann and Dennis Aogo.

On Facebook, the Green politician denounced a cancel culture in the discussion.

This describes a conscious exclusion of people based on their statements or actions.

But Palmer's own statements in the comment columns, which appeared to be racist for some, triggered a shit storm.

Boris Palmer describes Dennis Aogo on Facebook as a “bad racist” - party colleague reacts

"Lehmann gone. Aogo gone. Is the world better now? A private message and a thoughtless formulation, two athletes are already disappearing from the scene, ”said Palmer on Friday (07.05), criticizing the debate about the footballers, who both had to quit their moderator jobs after missteps on Facebook. He himself was not involved in the sport, but denounced the uproar in the social networks that the incident had triggered. “Cancel culture makes us obedient speaking automatons, with every word on the brink of abyss. I don't want to live in such a language job, ”says Palmer.

Palmer's contribution led a member of the “Green Youth” to the question of whether he wanted to “put racism into perspective again”.

In the course of the discussion, the Green politician Palmer then reacted ironically, according to his own statements: "The Aogo is a bad racist." As a justification, he referred to an unverified Facebook comment in which it had been claimed without any evidence that Aogo was for uses the N-word itself.

He also referred to countering the “abstruse provocations” with the “stylistic device of irony - to declare a black man a racist”.

The mayor also confirmed to

welt.de

that he had written the comment himself and again referred to the context.

Racism allegations to Palmer: The party reacts - Baerbock wants to discuss exclusion

Numerous users then accused Palmer of racism. SPD General Secretary Lars Klingbeil tweeted on Friday evening: “Is the Palmer quote real? If so: Have the Greens already commented on this? ”The party's reaction followed on Saturday. The Chancellor candidate of the Green Annalena Baerbock wrote on Twitter: “Boris Palmer's statement is racist and repulsive. Appealing to irony afterwards does not undo it. The whole thing is part of ever new provocations that exclude and hurt people. "

Her statement goes on to say: “As a result, Boris Palmer has lost our political support.

After the renewed incident, our state and federal committees discuss the corresponding consequences, including exclusion procedures. ”The Green Youth also made similar demands.

Timon Dzienus, Federal Executive of the Green Youth, wrote on Twitter: "Boris Palmer should finally be kicked out of the Green Party!"

Boris Palmer has therefore lost our political support.

After the new incident, our state and federal committees discuss the corresponding consequences, including the exclusion procedure.

2/2

- Annalena Baerbock (@ABaerbock) May 8, 2021

A corresponding decision will probably follow on Saturday.

The Green State Party Congress in Baden-Württemberg should decide on the basis of a request whether an exclusion procedure is to be initiated.

Almost 20 Green members applied to exclude Palmer from the party for "racist statements".

"The measure is full," it said in the explanation.

Boris Palmer reacts to the allegations in a detailed statement - he smiles at the possibility of expulsion from the party

"To associate my criticism of Aogo and Lehmann's ban on appearing with racism is as absurd as declaring Dennis Aogo a" bad racist "because racist statements are put into his mouth on the Internet." Palmer himself explained in one long statement on Saturday that he had ironically "exaggerated the debate into the grotesque." In addition, the mayor again referred to having taken up a quote.

The sentence would often have been taken out of context in the comments and incorrectly put into his mouth.

Palmer, who has already been criticized several times, does not consider discussions to be necessary: ​​"The federal party has to comment on a satirical dispute between two party members somewhere in the depths of the Internet?", He asked apparently sarcastically in the statement.

(chd with dpa)

Source: merkur

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