When will Germany return to normal after Corona?
The group with Anne Will discusses when is the ideal time to relax.
Berlin - "Open or not open, that is the question here !?", a little Shakespeare is probably also in the Corona crisis.
In her talk in the first, Anne Will also asks the group in a slightly dramatic manner: "Incidence below 100 again - does the great ease or the great carelessness begin now?"
When and whether the pandemic will end remains uncertain.
One thing is certain, however - at least with a view to the summer months: there will be easing.
Unclear so far: When will the return to the real normal state take place and how long can it be maintained?
At the “Anne Will” talk, the camp is split: Kubicki is for, Tschentscher against quick easing
Some federal states, including Schleswig-Holstein and Lower Saxony, have already started openings for restaurants, hotels and cultural institutions.
Others hold back, for example Hamburg.
Anne Will debates the question with her guests: which way is the better?
"Anne Will" - these guests discussed with:
Peter Tschentscher
(SPD)
- Hamburg's First Mayor
Wolfgang Kubicki (FDP)
- deputy party chairman
Dietmar Bartsch (left)
- parliamentary group leader
Ingrid Hartges
-
General Manager of
the German Hotel and Restaurant Association (DEHOGA)
Dr.
Carola Holzner
- intensive care physician and blogger ("Doc Caro")
The camps in the Will broadcast are quickly recognizable: As the "Chairman of the caution team", Will moderates Hamburg's First Mayor.
Peter Tschentscher (SPD) justifies Will again in detail about the effectiveness of the controversial Hamburg exit restrictions.
However, at Pentecost he promises to open the outdoor catering at least.
Tschentscher: "I will propose this to the Senate on Tuesday because we really had a great success with the measures of the last few weeks."
Hotel functionary denounces the closure and the holiday ban on "Anne Will"
Hamburg's mayor gets help from intensive care physician Carola Holzner, who writes on her blog against premature openings.
Holzner makes it clear that she will forego her summer vacation herself: “I'll stay at home with my bum!”.
The hotel and catering representative Ingrid Hartges is pretty excited, and in her excitement she even addresses Anne Will with “Frau Illner” - the name of the talk colleague from ZDF.
Hartges refers to "millions of people" who want to go on vacation, which is not possible in Germany: "That's crazy!
The guests can fly abroad, to Mallorca, they can go to South Tyrol, Austria, Switzerland, and in the Allgäu the Germans cannot go on vacation! ”.
Hartges is of the opinion that the "balance" has been lost.
The “joie de vivre” camp is also defending FDP vice-president Wolfgang Kubicki and left parliamentary group leader Dietmar Bartsch. The two political veterans show an almost harmonious relationship with Anne Will, contrary to her usual political appearance. With a swipe at Tschentscher, Kubicki makes it clear what he thinks about the “emergency laws”, as he bitingly calls them: “I also don't share the view that the curfew has contributed to a significant improvement!”. And gave his aim: "We now finally have to discuss the question: What can the state actually expect its citizens to do?".
Bartsch, who, as a Rostock resident, is annoyed that Schleswig-Holstein - here the FDP ruled with Kubicki - had opened, but Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania is still closed, adds: "Nobody is for carelessness". And: “Not even Mr Kubicki, and he's very brave. But he's not for carelessness either. "Bartsch advocates opening up the catering industry and, above all, schools:" I think we have to stop driving on sight now. "
Kubicki explains: "We have places in Schleswig-Holstein, if you go out there, you are in Mecklenburg territory".
Schleswig-Holsteiners were fined by the Mecklenburg police, complains the FDP man, "because they were three meters in Mecklenburg." The other way round, however, citizens from Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania could have gone to Lübeck to go shopping.
Kubicki is upset: "If we return to this small state, then God have mercy on us!"
The left boss cheers Kubicki on "Anne Will" with an ironic swipe at the government
With a comment in the direction of Thuringia, Bartsch provides for obvious amusement in the liberal political colleague. When asked by Will about the high incidence rates in the border state in which the Left Prime Minister Bodo Ramelow rules, Bartsch counters: "I would dare to argue that this is not primarily a party-political question!" And adds one more thing: "If a left-wing prime minister were to ensure that the incidence went down, then we would soon rule everywhere!" With so much irony, Kubicki bursts into laughter - Tschentscher remains serious.
He gets broadside again from the DEHOGA representative, who is currently fighting for the 2.4 million employees in restaurants and hotels to return to work. Hartges fires in the direction of Tschentscher: "Why wasn't the outdoor catering open long?" Several studies have shown that there are almost no infections in the open air.
“We have to proceed in several stages,” says Tschentscher.
Control is important so that “we don't fall behind on the whole,” said the SPD man, “because then you and all of us won't have anything from the summer!”.
Kubicki, on the other hand, makes it clear: "The goal is not 'no infections', but rather the goal is' no overloading of the health system".
“We will never manage to 'no infection' because we will never get rid of the virus again.” Karl Lauterbach had recently made a similar statement.
Conclusion of the "Anne Will" talk
That was a show in the "Déjà-vu" category.
The audience had already heard enough of the arguments in favor of one or the other stance.
Entertaining - even if not in the sense of the program - was the "old men" game by Bartsch and Kubicki and involuntarily funny the name of the DEHOGA boss.