Vaccination opponents and vaccination supporters;
Readers' forum August 13th
Further opinions on the vaccination debate;
Readers' forum 7./8.
August
compulsory vaccination is de facto introduced;
Readers' forum August 12th
Slowly but surely, it seems to be becoming clear how the Covid-19 vaccinations actually work. In particular, people who do not belong to any risk group have made advance payments with their vaccination, sometimes with severe side effects, have acted in solidarity as required by politicians in order to protect themselves and others with the vaccination. Now figures from Gibraltar, Iceland and Israel show that, despite high vaccination rates, incidences are rising sharply. It is becoming increasingly clear that vaccinated people can infect themselves and other people. It is becoming increasingly clear that the active ingredient in the vaccine does not offer 95% security, but only a security of around 30% -40% (see Israel). It is becoming increasingly clear that the vaccination protection decreases significantly after 6-9 months and that a third vaccination will therefore be necessary.Virologists (including Mr. Streeck) are increasingly saying that the vaccination is self-protection and not external protection! Politicians have persuaded us that after two vaccinations we are immune and can therefore gradually achieve herd immunity. That seems a long way off. Should we now be vaccinated a third time, even 1-2 times a year in the future, with the risk of experiencing severe side effects every time? What if I no longer want to take the third or further vaccinations? Am I then considered unvaccinated, lacking in solidarity and excluded from public life? I am now wondering who will benefit most from this vaccination campaign. I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.a. from Mr. Streeck), the vaccination is self-protection and not external protection! Politicians have persuaded us that after two vaccinations we are immune and can therefore gradually achieve herd immunity. That seems a long way off. Should we now be vaccinated a third time, even 1-2 times a year in the future, with the risk of experiencing severe side effects every time? What if I no longer want to take the third or further vaccinations? Am I then considered unvaccinated, lacking in solidarity and excluded from public life? I am now wondering who will benefit most from this vaccination campaign. I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.a. from Mr. Streeck), the vaccination is self-protection and not external protection! Politicians have persuaded us that after two vaccinations we are immune and can therefore gradually achieve herd immunity. That seems a long way off. Should we now be vaccinated a third time, even 1-2 times a year in the future, with the risk of experiencing severe side effects every time? What if I no longer want to take the third or further vaccinations? Am I then considered unvaccinated, lacking in solidarity and excluded from public life? I am now wondering who will benefit most from this vaccination campaign. I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.the vaccination is self-protection and not external protection! Politicians have persuaded us that after two vaccinations we are immune and can therefore gradually achieve herd immunity. That seems a long way off. Should we now be vaccinated a third time, even 1-2 times a year in the future, with the risk of experiencing severe side effects every time? What if I no longer want to take the third or further vaccinations? Am I then considered unvaccinated, lacking in solidarity and excluded from public life? I am now wondering who will benefit most from this vaccination campaign. I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.the vaccination is self-protection and not external protection! Politicians have persuaded us that after two vaccinations we are immune and can therefore gradually achieve herd immunity. That seems a long way off. Should we now be vaccinated a third time, even 1-2 times a year in the future, with the risk of experiencing severe side effects every time? What if I no longer want to take the third or further vaccinations? Am I then considered unvaccinated, lacking in solidarity and excluded from public life? I am now wondering who will benefit most from this vaccination campaign. I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.after two vaccinations we are immune and can therefore gradually achieve herd immunity. That seems to have moved a long way off. Should we now be vaccinated a third time, even 1-2 times a year in the future, with the risk of experiencing severe side effects every time? What if I no longer want to take the third or further vaccinations? Am I then considered unvaccinated, lacking in solidarity and excluded from public life? I am now wondering who will benefit most from this vaccination campaign. I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.after two vaccinations we are immune and can therefore gradually achieve herd immunity. That seems to have moved a long way off. Should we now be vaccinated a third time, even 1-2 times a year in the future, with the risk of experiencing severe side effects every time? What if I no longer want to take the third or further vaccinations? Am I then considered unvaccinated, lacking in solidarity and excluded from public life? I am now wondering who will benefit most from this vaccination campaign. I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.even get vaccinated 1-2 times a year in the future, with the risk of experiencing severe side effects every time? What if I no longer want to take the third or further vaccinations? Am I then considered unvaccinated, lacking in solidarity and excluded from public life? I am now wondering who will benefit most from this vaccination campaign. I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.even get vaccinated 1-2 times a year in the future, with the risk of experiencing severe side effects every time? What if I no longer want to take the third or further vaccinations? Am I then considered unvaccinated, lacking in solidarity and excluded from public life? I am now wondering who will benefit most from this vaccination campaign. I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.I do not belong to the risk group and have come to the conclusion that I have been vehemently deceived by the ruling politicians.
Christian Schmaus
Siegsdorf
The day before my first vaccination appointment I read in an Italian newspaper that a 67-year-old (as old as me) died four days after the first vaccination.
That made me think and hesitate, but I got the vaccine anyway.
I also got the second vaccination behind me at the end of June, both without side effects.
If I had died after the first vaccination, that would have been it.
There was once a TV show called “1000 Ways to Bite the Grass”, it's just crazy what people can die of.
With Corona it's 1001. Never mind, we'll have to die sooner or later anyway.
Maybe earlier in the current world, economic and climatic and other conditions is not the worst.
Joseph Zenz
Munich
Are Politicians Better Medical Professionals? In the past, the STIKO was known more as a vaccine liberal. There were good reasons for not recommending vaccination for children until recently. Unfortunately, the STIKO was obviously no longer able to withstand the pressure of the politicians. The large test series vaccination with the immature inoculants is now being tested on children. The long-term consequences are not known, and yet the children are vaccinated. Carrying out power struggles and profile addiction on the back of the children is repulsive. It is known that children seem to be easily infected, but the course of the disease is usually easy. You can also read in the press about vaccinated people who infected others or who died of or with Corona despite being vaccinated.So why this massive pressure on the population and the children when, as is well known, the protection is not as it is repeatedly claimed by self-appointed experts. Even so, these politicians run the risk of harming children. I also hate the pressure that is put on children. It is suggested to them that they are to blame if they infect their classmates (last year it was grandma!) And have to close the school. Do adults really need that. Is that educationally valuable when children are growing up feeling guilty?I also hate the pressure that is put on children. It is suggested to them that they are to blame if they infect their classmates (last year it was grandma!) And have to close the school. Do adults really need that. Is that educationally valuable when children are growing up feeling guilty?I also hate the pressure that is put on children. It is suggested to them that they are to blame if they infect their classmates (last year it was grandma!) And have to close the school. Do adults really need that. Is that educationally valuable when children are growing up feeling guilty?
Now it shows again what was the rule in the past Corona year. It is not the experts who decide on the behavior and the measures against Corona, but technically overburdened and presumptuous politicians. It would be good for these politicians to finally bring together experts from ALL important areas and bring them to a table and listen, in order to orient themselves to the reality of the facts and not just start campaigns with public appeal and hold on to dogmas that have been repeating for a year. Even politicians cannot ban Corona. After weighing up the honest facts, we can learn to live sensibly with (Corona) dangers that everyday life brings with it.For the children, the prospect of a life that is not 100% safe but free is a better incentive for a happy and healthy life.
Alois Friedel
Bad Tölz
So now it comes after all, the compulsory vaccination through the back door and with it the two-class society. Already when it was said last year that there would be no compulsory vaccination, but the pandemic would not be over until everyone has been vaccinated, the alarm bells rang for me. I already knew where it was going over a year ago. For this I have been called a conspiracy theorist by the same politicians who have now introduced compulsory vaccinations. What do we learn from it? If in doubt, always assume the opposite of what has been said with Angie, Söder and Co., then you are on the safe side in the long term. For the sake of completeness, it should be noted that anyone who pointed out the possible danger of Corona in January 2020 was also referred to as a conspiracy theorist. Less than two months laterAfter the virus had already spread across Europe, politicians suddenly switched to actionist panic mode.
There is no justification for these recent political decisions of the Prime Minister's Conference, which is an institution that is not legitimized by any law or the Basic Law, neither ethically nor morally, nor in terms of health, nor legal. For a year and a half, we have been kept in a state of emergency by political, non-health decisions, in which one can easily rule by passing parliament by ordinances. No matter how much Söder put the blame on the unvaccinated. The pandemic is based on incidence, the limitations of our lives are based on incidence. The PCR test, with which the incidence is determined, is not suitable for medical diagnostics and its false-positive rate alone can keep us in permanent lockdown with the appropriate political will.At no time has there been any health system overload or excess mortality. In the pandemic year 2020, our health system was apparently so overloaded by corona patients that it was possible to afford to close at least 20 (!) Clinics and dismantle thousands of intensive care beds. According to the Federal Statistical Office, we had an immortality rate. Risk groups were not protected, but 80 million were locked up. The corona death numbers are deliberately extrapolated using the vague definition of “on and with”. Worldwide we had just 200 million corona infections in a year and a half, with 8 billion people. The brutal measures against it have already caused tens of times the collateral damage that Corona could ever have caused.The basic principle of all medical and political action, namely proportionality, has been violated to this day. Neither malaria, nor AIDS, nor tuberculosis, much more dangerous diseases, have ever caused such damage to democracy, the economy, society and the rule of law. With lies and deceit our freedom and basic rights are restricted and some other benchmark is constantly used to continue the state of emergency. The decisions of the Prime Minister's Conference can therefore only be described as criminal. In our society, which is so focused on equality, anti-discrimination and inclusion, it seems a bit strange when people are turned into second-class citizens just because they don't want to be vaccinated against Corona.The state is openly blackmailing its citizens. People talk themselves out of the fact that there are officially no compulsory vaccinations, but people are forbidden to lead a normal life without a vaccination. The rule of law is being rebuilt. Fundamental rights are now apparently privileges that depend on arbitrary values - or on obedience to the government. The presumption of innocence is reversed. A citizen now has to prove with a health paper that it poses no danger. Healthy people are being reinterpreted as criminals and potential threats. You have to reveal sensitive medical data to complete strangers. Where is the data protection that is otherwise so high in Germany? An individualistic society is now becoming a collective society for the common good. The common good is what the politicians say about it. Today it is health protection against Corona,tomorrow the climate rescue. It leaves me speechless and stunned by what our politicians have turned our country into. And I'm terrified of what will happen to us if we are serious about saving the climate. Everyone should ask themselves whether an AfD federal government would get away with all of this and whether the media would support it so benevolently.
Kristina Gerg
Geretsried
