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Prof. Gamzo: "Stop publishing corona data" | Israel today

2021-08-24T20:21:35.705Z


The first corona projector to sharply criticize the epidemic: "Very complicated and unsuccessful, in all governments" • On the publication of the verified numbers: "We need to stop pushing this to the public"


"One should get used to living next to the corona plague, and not publish verified numbers every day."

This is what the director of Ichilov Hospital and the first corona projector, Prof. Roni Gamzo, say in a special interview with the "Shishvat" supplement that will be published this weekend.

Gamzo says that a few weeks ago, when a closure was on the table, he spoke with the prime minister and the health minister.

"I told them: Closure is a solution to weakness, it needs to be removed from the lexicon. Look at what is happening in many places in the world, including the United States.

They learned to live alongside the plague.

No need to push the public every morning for verified numbers.

The government should be responsible, say to the citizens: 'There are rules, these are the directions, but we want you to continue your life, within the framework and restrictions set'.

"The corona will not disappear from our lives. So every day we count verified? Every day we publish the positive test rates? Do you know if the positive test rates include the antigen or not? What does it mean to the public four percent positive? It includes survey tests in nursing homes or not?

Gamzo gets vaccinated // Photo: Coco,

"So the news says that the positive tests have risen from three to four percent. What does the citizen understand from this already? I want the citizens to stop dealing with the number of verified. I want people to feel comfortable going to be tested, and not immediately say 'in Holon there are so and so verified, in intelligence so and so.

"There is politics in everything"

What do you think about the epidemic management in recent months?

"Management is very complicated. Also in publicity, in finding places where the rules are not obeyed and in enforcement, also in preventing Pike News and dealing with plague deniers. We need to work on a spot basis, learn about these places, initiate procedures Localities so that they can increase their supervisory power.

"The management at the micro level is not successful in the State of Israel. The current government, the previous government, the one before it and the one before it. I manage Ichilov much better, I go down to the details. The feedback I receive, my control systems, are better From what is happening in the entire State of Israel. "

When you were the corona projector, did you feel that politics was involved in managing the plague?

"Such an event brings professionals together with politicians. I will not tell politicians not to intervene. It is lost, they will continue to intervene. But professionals have to stand against them like a wall. Draw the red lines. Fight.

"You think I just had the matter of banning travel to Uman? That it was just closing the education system in red cities? I had to fight for it in front of the cabinet."

The Minister of Health should be a professional, like you?

"Yes. But in the end, politics goes into everything. I do not know when there will be a professional in this position. I would be very happy. Tell me tomorrow - I am leaving Ichilov and going to do it. Obviously this is one of my ambitions. A professional in this position will help a lot ".

The corona projector at the time, Gamzo, during his visit to Ben Gurion Airport,

"A teacher has a moral duty"

Are you in favor of the education system returning to school on September 1?

"Yes, I want to bring Israel back to a normal process in all important aspects of life. I want to give people back September 1 as the date they know what's going on. I do not want to say 'stay home and do not deal'. I want everyone's effort - from government to teacher At school - to do everything possible to reduce the morbidity and fix it in the safest way. It's a huge crisis. "

Some teachers do not get vaccinated.

"A teacher has a moral obligation to his students. In fact, you entrust your children into his hands. Even if you do not believe in the vaccine, do not do it for yourself, do it for the trust the parents give you."

And what do they do if they refuse?

"Here I would go for certain restrictions. Check every day. And someone who also does not want to be tested - let him go to the hospital."

"I do not think that Ben Gurion Airport is Israel's main problem in the management of the corona," he says.

"The number of verified people coming from abroad is currently less than five percent, at its peak it was maybe ten percent.

There is more preoccupation, on the verge of obsession, with closing Israel, in a way that is precedent-setting in front of the world as well.

In a way that Israel does not receive tourists.



Corona tests at Ben Gurion Airport, archive // ​​Photo: Oren Ben Hakon,

"An orderly procedure must be done at the borders. Manage the entry into the country wisely. Decide whether only vaccinated or unvaccinated people are admitted. But a full closure of Ben Gurion Airport is the easy way, and I am not convinced that it has a big advantage.

"The next variant will enter Israel not only through tourists, but through Israelis who have flown abroad and returned with it. There is a focus here on something that is not the main thing at the moment."

 And what's the point right now?

"The ability to treat patients who come to the hospitals, locating as many Corona patients as possible, scattering tests. Today it is easier to get tested in New York than in the State of Israel, even though we have the best health funds. In New York, every street corner, every pharmacy Speed, and also PCR.

"We all talk about the lack of discipline of the Arab localities, for example. Are there inspectors there at all? Do you know that in Arab localities there is no such concept at all? If you are the head of a local authority, an inspector is not just giving parking reports. Through it, you can check where there are problems, what the level of cooperation of the citizens is. "

Source: israelhayom

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