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Annalena Baerbock, Armin Laschet and Olaf Scholz: This is how the TV trio ran on ARD and ZDF


Corona, climate protection, taxes: In the second TV triumph, Annalena Baerbock, Armin Laschet and Olaf Scholz argued about many topics. It got particularly heated right from the start. The overview.

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Scholz, Baerbock and Laschet at the Triell from ARD and ZDF


Michael Kappeler / dpa

Two weeks before the election, Annalena Baerbock (Bündnis 90 / Die Grüne), Olaf Scholz (SPD) and Armin Laschet (CDU) ran again for the TV triumph for the Chancellery.

The three candidates for chancellor were interviewed on ARD and ZDF on many topics, including climate protection and the corona pandemic.

When it came to the raid in the finance ministry led by Scholz, a real dispute arose for the first time.

Who said what on the different topics?

The overview.

Raid on the Treasury

It got really heated here for the first time.

Laschet accused Finance Minister Scholz of irresponsibility and sloppiness as a minister.

Scholz countered by saying that Laschet was twisting the facts.

The background to the dispute is a raid in the Ministry of Finance because of alleged misconduct in the Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU), the money laundering special unit of the customs.

Baerbock did not comment directly on the raid.

However, she pointed out that the state lost 50 billion euros in tax money every year through criminal activities.

Climate protection

On the subject of climate protection, Scholz spoke out in favor of a moderate increase in the price of CO2. Not all people could switch to a new car right away, he says, referring to the price of gasoline. “I think it's right to be moderate when it comes to CO2 pricing.” Both Scholz and Laschet emphasize that the income from CO2 pricing should be returned to the public.

Baerbock called climate protection "a huge effort for our society".

The Greens therefore wanted to invest an additional 50 billion euros annually, for example in infrastructure, rail expansion, wind turbines and solar systems on the roofs of new buildings.

It is now important to act: "Otherwise it will be really expensive." Baerbock emphasized that one had to get out of the coal industry much earlier than planned in 2038.

"We can't go on for 17 years as if nothing had happened." Fossil fuels will become more expensive, for example for refueling and heating.

The Greens wanted to create a balance.


All three candidates campaigned for more corona vaccinations.

Baerbock criticized that there would only be a nationwide week of action from this Monday after one and a half years of pandemic.

If, for example, you get into a situation in nursing and clinics where not enough people have been vaccinated, the question of mandatory vaccination for individual professional groups must also be addressed.

She spoke out in favor of the fact that, as with school children, there must be obligations for employees to carry out regular corona tests.

She appealed to citizens to get vaccinated.

Scholz opposed compulsory tests at the workplace.

In any case, test offers are already being used extensively in companies.

Laschet also rejected compulsory vaccination.

Dealing with controversial party members

Laschet and Baerbock were asked about controversial members of their parties - Hans-Georg Maaßen (CDU) and Boris Palmer (Greens).

A party expulsion process is in progress against the latter.

Laschet did not answer the question whether he would vote for Maaßen and pointed out that he was going to vote in Aachen himself.

"Mr. Maaßen will have to stick to the course that I set as party chairman and then as possible chancellor." Baerbock says she expects the CDU "to close the firewall to the right completely."

Laschet then emphasized a clear demarcation between the Union and the AfD.

The Chancellor's decision not to close the borders in 2015 was "correct".

“I fight the rights.

They don't belong in parliaments.

They are the intellectual arsonists who ultimately lead to murders like our fellow party member Walter Lübcke, "said the CDU leader.

Baerbock accused Laschet of equating the Left Party with the AfD and called on the Union candidate to make a clear commitment to the fight against right-wing forces.

She also took a clear position against the controversial mayor of Tübingen because of Palmer's racist statements.

There will be another TV triall this coming weekend - a week before the election.

Then ProSieben, Sat.1 and Kabel Eins broadcast.

ulz / svs / dpa

Source: spiegel

All news articles on 2021-09-12

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