Triell analysis: Spahn because of Esken rejection on the palm - Anne Will intervenes

The triad between Annalena Baerbock, Armin Laschet and Olaf Scholz causes a heated discussion between Jens Spahn and Malu Dreyer in “Anne Will”.

On Sunday evening, the “Anne Will” group analyzes the performance of the Chancellor candidates Annalena Baerbock (Greens), Olaf Scholz (SPD) and Armin Laschet (CDU) immediately after the second TV triall.

The guests of the three big parties try to speak strongly to their respective candidates.

For example, Federal Health Minister Jens Spahn (CDU) is of the opinion that Armin Laschet acted “according to what I believe to be the correct motto of working out differences.

Also, yes, to be aggressive.

That was him, especially at the beginning.

I think the sequence of the topics was also given by the moderation, but he seized the chance and Olaf Scholz seized the responsibility that he has.

So that the color of the ears has approximated the color of the tie, these were actually emotions that you rarely see otherwise.

But that also shows that a sore point has been hit.

And Olaf Scholz knows that too. "

Triell analysis in "Anne Will": Spahn attacks Scholz, Esken and the SPD - Dreyer defends them

Spahn goes on to say that Laschet presented himself as a democrat in the Triell because he rejected both the left and the AfD, while his competitors lacked clarity on this issue. In the direction of the Prime Minister of Rhineland-Palatinate, Malu Dreyer (SPD), he said: “Ms. Dreyer, with all due respect, but until two or three days ago it was said that Ms. Esken would come today. All those in your party who would like to form a coalition with the Left Party have been hiding somewhere for the last two or three weeks. They are no longer allowed to perform. ”Host Anne Will intervenes:“ No, Ms. Esken has canceled, no conspiracy stories are constructed. ”“ I met her at the chip shop, ”interjects journalist Robin Alexander,“ so she's there . "" So it is close by ",says Spahn, before repeating his judgment: "You are successfully hiding you."

Dreyer replies that of course the SPD is not hiding its party chairman: “And it's actually outrageous, Mr. Spahn. Ms. Esken is our party leader, together with Mr. Walter-Borjans and she was elected through a democratic process in our party and you can like her or not, but you can't treat anyone like that. "

She was very happy about the triumph because Olaf Scholz did not allow himself to be disturbed by the questions about investigations in his finance ministry, but reacted very clearly, but also emotionally.

Therefore, she does not share the impression that Union candidate Laschet has presented himself confidently, but thinks that he has dealt with "flowery half-truths".

"You can get upset about that," says Dreyer, but her chancellor candidate was calm: "But it may be part of the election campaign and Olaf Scholz parried and responded very clearly and in a calm style, but also with emotion."

Focus on Olaf Scholz in Triell analysis in “Anne Will”

The discussion between Spahn and Dreyer then came to a head: Dreyer explained that the public prosecutor's investigations had taken place because of unknown employees and that they were expressly not directed against Olaf Scholz or his employees. But Spahn adds: “The topic is different. It's about the fight against tax evasion, which the finance minister often puts at the center of his work, you too, programmatically, and here it simply shows: it doesn't work. Despite the responsibility for three years, this fight behind tax evasion does not work. ”Then there are the Wirecard and CumEx scandals, but Dreyer interrupts his lecture.

“May I finish speaking for a moment?” Spahn asks, but Dreyer's answer is: “No.

You are not telling what is right here.

It is no longer the question of the statute of limitations, everything has been settled and the money has also been paid back.

So don't claim it here on this show.

I ask you, Mr. Spahn, just stick to the truth, then it will be a lot easier for us. ”“ That's true, ”says Spahn and contradicts:“ But that applies to all of us together.

Just as we all have to answer legitimate and unjustified questions every day, you and Mr. Scholz also have to answer them in such a situation. "

"Anne Will" - These guests participated in the discussion

• Jens Spahn

  (CDU) - politician

• Malu Dreyer

  (SPD) - politician

• Katrin Göring-Eckardt

  (Greens) - politician

• Robin Alexander

  - journalist

• Ursula Münch

  - political scientist

• Ellen Ehni

  - journalist

"Has Annalena Baerbock reacted sharply enough at this point?", Moderator Anne Will brings politician Katrin Göring-Eckardt (Greens) into the discussion.

She thinks: “Yes.

She made that very clear.

She said that we are obviously a money laundering paradise in Germany and that we have not been able to deal with it.

And she also made a suggestion.

So that, I believe, made the two gentlemen who argued with each other about the past different from her.

Because she said clearly what can be done.

For example, that you can no longer pay for real estate in cash until I don't know what value.

And I think that's what matters.

That you now know: How do you actually get out of there? "

Armin Laschet hands out in the TV triumph against Scholz, Göring-Eckardt is astonished

The fact that Armin Laschet, of all people, addresses the principles of the rule of law and conformity with the rules is astonishing to Göring-Eckardt: “He has just received a verdict, rightly so, regarding the question of the police operation in the Hambach Forest. That the eviction was not legal, but with advanced arguments, namely allegedly fire protection. A person died there. So, instead of Armin Laschet, I would have said today: I'm very sorry that it happened that way. That should never happen again. "

Baerbock did not deal with it and instead turned to the future, which Göring-Eckardt thinks is good, after all, otherwise mask deals and other events have to be discussed: “It's about: What can you do?

And that is why it is right to say at these points what is coming now, what has to be done and what can be done differently.

And in any case, I haven't heard that from either of them on this issue, not just on climate protection, and to be honest, I find that quite dramatic. "

"Anne Will" - the conclusion of the show

The Triell analysis in "Anne Will" is less an analysis than the ongoing election campaign between the three largest political parties. Because Federal Health Minister Jens Spahn (CDU) immediately distributes in the direction of the SPD, there is a quarrel with the Rhineland-Palatinate Prime Minister Malu Dreyer (SPD). Green parliamentary group leader Katrin Göring-Eckardt does it like her party leader and does not interfere in the discussion, but then tries to work out the solution offered by her party. The journalist Robin Alexander, on the other hand, speaks up again and again in a pointed or provocative way, while the political scientist Ursula Münch believes the importance of the triell to the electorate is overestimated.In addition, the journalists Ellen Ehni and Tina Hassel provide live results from Triell surveys and report on the mood at party public viewings.