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Comments September 27th
Should Olaf Scholz actually become Federal Chancellor, he will be a shadow chancellor.
Because in reality Germany will then be ruled by people like Kevin Kühnert and Saskia Esken.
And then God grace us!
Manfred Wimmer
Munich
We have been following the course of the federal election in 2021 since 6 p.m. and what happened there cannot be described in words. The SPD and your candidate received a majority, even if only a small one. Further analyzes and details show very clearly that the CDU has lost; Nobody wants a Federal Chancellor Laschet either. Then why is the CDU and Mr Laschet talking about a government mandate? Nobody knows the answer. All power comes from the people, it is said, but certainly not after this election. The distribution of power is now being mapped out in the back room by the FDP and the Greens, completely detached from the will of the voters. There was also talk of offers from the major parties last night.Are we on Ebay or other marketplaces? Mr. Lindner can no longer be surpassed in his arrogance and has already stressed several times that he would prefer a CDU government to a traffic light coalition. Greetings from the lust for power! Imagine the scenario, the FDP wraps the Greens and a Jamaica coalition emerges. Isn't that then electoral fraud? This election has shown once again how important your citizens are to politics, namely zero point zero and with such people a country should be governed? How about if the election were abolished outright? Then the small parties could join forces directly and who knows, maybe there will come a time when these small parties will reach a majority and govern in this way? Dear politicians,There is a world of difference between wanting and being able to, but with so much freedom from pain you don't notice it.
Gerd and Erika Hruschka
Bad Tölz
Prime Minister Söder should no longer accept the insolence of Mr. Aiwanger and dismiss the Free Voters from the government and rule with the Greens, which would not be ideal, but a good sign for negotiations in Berlin.
But unfortunately nobody asks me.
Michael Isemann
Munich
The situation of the CSU is serious. With 31.7%, it achieved the worst result since 1949. The whole drama of the fall of the former Bavarian state party only becomes apparent when you start from the election result for 2013 with 49.3%. As a result, the CSU lost 17.6% of the votes in just 8 years, an average of 8.8% per electoral period. If this trend is continued, the CSU would come to 22.9% in the federal elections in 2025 and only 14.1% 4 years later. Such a development is improbable, but not impossible. A result of around 32% in the state elections in 2023 would also mean that the CSU would be able to form a majority against it even without the AfD. What is now important for the CSU and CDU is to carry out a relentless error analysis,which does not shy away from personal consequences. It is important to develop a credible strategy in order to win back, above all, regular voters who have emigrated. However, initial statements by top politicians in the Union indicate that they want to get back to the agenda as quickly as possible and save themselves in coalition negotiations. But those who are not prepared to learn from the mistakes of the past run the risk of repeating them, which the Union can no longer afford.Learning from past mistakes runs the risk of repeating them, which the Union can no longer afford.Learning from past mistakes runs the risk of repeating them, which the Union can no longer afford.
Ludwig Mailinger
Miesbach
The election has significantly changed the party landscape.
For the formation of a government, it is first of all decisive whether the Greens and the FDP find each other.
If they come together, it depends on whether they get the SPD or the CDU / CSU on board.
If they don't come together, all that remains is a grand coalition as before.
There is no fourth possibility if one assumes that no one wants to form a coalition with the AfD.
Winfried Mayer
Seefeld
Red-Black-Green Coalition: Why is nobody thinking about the possibility of such a coalition?
There is currently a lot of talk about the will of the electorate, with the electorate having thrown out the red-red-green coalition demonized by the C parties, including the FDP, which is close to them.
The majority of them voted for the SPD, the Union parties and the Greens.
Nobody wants a Groko in its previous form.
If the Greens were there, this coalition would have a very stable majority and would not have to tip the scales that Lindner would like to play in his desire for power.
Klaus Engel
Munich
The result of the Bundestag election was extremely narrow in favor of the SPD with a lead of 1.6% over the CDU / CSU.
This is undisputed.
But: What would an Armin Laschet and a Markus Söder say to Olaf Scholz if the election with this meager victory had turned out in their favor.
Wouldn't you then deny him any claim to government? ”Sincerely
Josef Zehetmaier
Freising
After the federal election, the two parties argue with the nominated candidates for chancellor over who has the right to form a government.
The answer is as simple as it is simple: the SPD, together with the Greens and the FDP, clearly won the election, also because of their candidate for Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
The Union parties have crashed the Bundestag election with their candidate for Chancellor and lost votes.
That's what it's about, not a percent back and forth.
Does the Federal Republic of Germany want to form a new government with a loser like Laschet and such a loss of votes;
in this case no statesman in the world would take the FRG seriously.
Nicholas Orlop
Alling
Regarding the election defeat of the CDU / CSU Union: The starting point is that the CDU chairwoman Merkel has ordered her successor into the wrong and unsuitable hands. She proposed Mr. Laschet as CDU party chairman instead of Mr. Merz and, with the support of Mr. Schäuble as a puller, helped to gain a majority. Mr Söder also helped out because, as the CSU party chairman, at the party congress of the CDU, he created the mood in his greeting for Laschet. At the suggestion of Mr. Laschet as CDU party chairman, only the 51-member CDU presidium was allowed to vote when nominating the candidate for chancellor. Mr Laschet was elected as a candidate for the Union with just 31 votes in favor. The members of the CDU / CSU parliamentary group and the CSU presidium were excluded from the vote.From this date the loss of consent began. Now the cart of the CDU / CSU Union has landed in a deep ditch. The power man Söder also has a large share in this situation, he has to be careful with his handling methods that the CSU does not do the same for the state election in 2023.
Peter Speckmaier senior
Hohenlinden
The result of the election is not as bad as is often feared.
It is clear that, thanks to Ms. Baerbock, the Greens fell far short of expectations.
Above all, Olaf Scholz has fought for a considerable increase in votes for the SPD, the dream of the left majority has simply burst.
The Free Democrats are the real winners because, if they do it wisely, they will set the course for the next few weeks.
The AFD lost and the left shot themselves in the knee.
Regardless of who becomes chancellor, the FDP will have to ensure that the ideologues in the parties are stopped.
The message to all parties is to make realistic and appropriate policies in all relevant policy areas.
Peter Schröder
Höhenkirchen-Siegertsbrunn
First of all, I would like to say that I am neutral, so for neither of the two candidates for chancellor.
But I wonder why we always have to imitate America: Trump loses the election, claims he has won and wants to rule.
Laschet loses with the CDU and sees himself as a winner and wants to become chancellor.
With tricks he became a candidate for chancellor and with more tricks he now wants to become chancellor.
Is that our democracy?
Jutta Neckermann
Rottach-Egern
The most gratifying thing was the high turnout. Neither party lived from its strength in the election. All have only benefited from the weakness of the other. The Union and the SPD are only a shadow of their own past. For the CDU it was the expected debacle. Laschet should actually sink into the ground in shame and apologize. The Union and the Greens have bet on their wrong candidates and the voters have acknowledged this. The old parties in the middle do not notice how they have been losing approval for years. Too little attention is also paid to the voter's finger pointing in the direct election results. An Andreas Scheuer and Ms. Bär actually got the red card. Does the party leadership notice that? Unfortunately, people always talk about it.
As the arrogant, big sister of the two Union parties, the CDU has placed the personal sensitivities of the old men of the CDU in the foreground. Not the chances of success for the candidate, not the best for the republic, not the necessity of a future-oriented strategy of action were decisive for this candidacy of Mr. Laschet. The only decisive factor was the unity of the oldest power politicians in the CDU, such as Schäuble and Bouffier, that they did not want to share power. Since the beginning of the republic, the power center of the CDU was located in the west (coal and steel). All leading figures of the CDU came from there. Miss Dr. Merkel was, so to speak, an accident. She took advantage of a weakness of Kohl and Schäuble and asserted herself with a strong will. The question isdoes the CSU want to be the stirrup holder and vassal of the CDU for another 70 years? Those responsible at the CSU are now drawing the consequences and have the courage to find the strategically correct answer to the debacle. In order to strengthen the Union as a whole, the CSU must compete across Germany. The Kreuther resolutions of 1976 were at the wrong time. Now is the time for it. If there is a bit of the intellect of Franz-Josef Strauss in Söder, he thinks about it. The CSU has been offering online memberships since September 2020, for which you do not have to belong to a local association in Bavaria. The offer heard is successful, needs to be expanded and must lead to its own associations in the rest of the republic. Such a union on an equal footing would strengthen the conservatives in the republic in the long term.I hope those responsible at the CSU have the courage and take this step together.
Rudolf Brandl
Erding
