After the Union's meeting with the Greens on Tuesday, the parties will discuss internally on Wednesday. Interim conclusions are also pending.
After the federal election in 2021 *, the parties are trying to form a new government.
Exploratory talks are taking place between the SPD *, the Greens *, the FDP * and the Union.
On Tuesday, the CDU * / CSU * and the Greens met for talks and commented on the meeting.
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FDP and the Greens draw internal interim reports on Wednesday (October 6th, 2021) after the first round of talks to form a new federal government.
The Greens want to discuss the status of the explorations with possible future coalition partners in a digital meeting.
The FDP also meets for talks in the morning.
FDP General Secretary Volker Wissing had announced an interim conclusion for the time after the first round of talks between the Union and the Greens, who met on Tuesday.
The meeting ended a first round of separate exploratory talks in different constellations.
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Robert Habeck, Annalena Baerbock and Christian Lindner after their first conversations.
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The Greens and the FDP have repeatedly affirmed that, after the federal election, they now want to jointly create the basis for a political awakening and change.
The Greens are striving for a traffic light coalition with the SPD and FDP, but are not ruling out a Jamaica alliance with the Union and FDP.
The FDP shows its inclination towards the Union, but has not yet committed itself.
Editorial to the exploratory talks
Probing with risk: FDP and Greens behave like people's parties *
Explorations between the Greens and the Union: split and cross shots against Laschet
Update from Wednesday, October 6th, 2021, 6:20 a.m.:
The new Green
MP,
Frank Bsirske, has pointed to clear differences between his party and the Union in view of a possible Jamaica coalition with the CDU, CSU and FDP. "The differences with the Union are substantial," said the former chairman of the services union Verdi to the RND. "The quarrel and the recognizable cross-shots against Armin Laschet" would also not invite one to "develop trust", he criticized.
Even Lower Saxony's CDU chairman Bernd Althusmann considers the chances of forming a Jamaica coalition to be low after the conversation.
"In my opinion, such an alliance is still possible, but not very likely," Althusmann told the RND.
“The tendencies currently seem to be more towards traffic lights,” he stated.
As long as the Greens and FDP have not yet made a decision about explorations with the SPD, a tripartite meeting of the Union, FDP and Greens “makes perfect sense”.
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Armin Laschet and Annalena Baerbock have sounded out.
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Explorations between the Greens and the Union - Laschet: "It's annoying"
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Union Chancellor candidate Armin Laschet has expressed himself critically about indiscretions from the exploratory meeting of the Union and the Greens. When asked how he thinks about it, the Prime Minister of North Rhine-Westphalia said on Tuesday evening (October 5th, 2021) in Düsseldorf: "It's annoying."
Previously, the Greens federal manager Michael Kellner had accused the Union in Berlin of not having adhered to the agreed confidentiality.
“There have been four exploratory talks in the last few days.
From two you read and hear nothing.
Two of the alleged contents of a conversation are pierced to the media.
That is noticeable, dear Union - and it sucks! "Wrote Kellner on Tuesday evening in a tweet that was immediately shared by several other Green politicians.
The Union and the Greens explored options for a Jamaica alliance with the FDP on Tuesday.
Exploratory talks: Habeck and Baerbock do not write off the Jamaica coalition
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How big the damage is estimated by the piercing, Laschet is asked.
Something like that is not good, but that did not matter, just as few personnel issues.
The seriousness of the situation in which Germany stands was the dominant factor.
All four emphasize the atmospheric, commonalities were emphasized.
The further discussions will now take place in the company's own committees.
Exploratory talks between the Greens and the Union - Baerbock praises the discussion
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Annalena Baerbock speaks of a factual discussion, but also mentions differences on the one hand, similarities on the other.
The conversations were characterized by honesty.
Baerbock's spirits are much more reserved than Armin Laschet did.
Markus Söder would like the talks to continue. The first meeting was very constructive and honest: “It was shaped by the will to explore where there is a common ground, which bridges can be tread together, how far the paths may then be and how stable the pillars are on which this path is to be covered. "
Söder recalls that after the conversation with the FDP, the CSU said that they “wanted more”.
With a view to the Greens, he now says: “I found the conversation today just as or even more exciting because it is also a lot of brain teaser for everyone involved to develop the future further.
In this respect, we would also be interested here at this point to continue talking and to keep talking. "
Robert Habeck speaks of exploring possible intersections.
"We will now evaluate the discussions with the committees," they will take time for that.
In the conversation, possible overlaps were explored, but there were also dividing lines.
"Today and tomorrow" should now be compared internally to see what is possible.
Greens boss Annalena Baerbock promises decisions on how to proceed in the next few days.
Exploratory talks: Armin Laschet thinks Jamaica is possible
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After the exploratory discussion, the Union and the Greens appear in front of the press to make their statements.
It is clear that some political positions are far apart.
Annalena Baerbock, Armin Laschet, Robert Habeck and Markus Söder take the stage.
Armin Laschet took the floor and emphasized that the Union did not win the election. Still, Jamaica is possible. The exchange and the atmosphere were good despite the contrasts. Opposites, on the other hand, can be overcome. This would have to be deepened, it would be worthwhile. But this would be decided by the FDP and the Greens. The Union is ready for an alliance.
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CDU boss Armin Laschet is in the favor of the voters parallel to the exploratory talks: inside further crashed.
In an Insa survey, it slipped to 17th place on a popularity scale for top German politicians.
Laschet fell from 3rd place to 7th place among the Union voters. SPD Chancellor candidate Olaf Scholz * overtook CSU leader Markus Söder in the politician ranking and landed in 2nd place. FDP leader Christian Lindner rose from 7th place to 4th place one is still the outgoing Chancellor Angela Merkel * (CDU).
Exploration in Berlin between the Union and the Greens in Berlin
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The leaders of the Union and the Greens * have come together to discuss a possible joint government alliance. The CDU chairman Armin Laschet, CSU boss Markus Söder and the Greens chairmen Annalena Baerbock and Robert Habeck did not comment on the content of the meeting on Tuesday in Berlin. It had been agreed not to disclose. When asked about his mood, Laschet simply said: “It's raining.” After the deliberations, there should be statements around 1.30pm.
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The leaders of the CDU and CSU met before the exploratory talks with the Greens planned from 11 a.m. for preliminary consultations.
CDU boss Armin Laschet, CSU chairman Markus Söder * and other members of the exploration teams from both parties did not comment on the content of the deliberations on Tuesday when they arrived at the place of the explorations, the Euref campus in Berlin - it had been agreed not to disclose .
Last chance for Jamaica?
Union offers Greens a "future coalition"
Berlin - More than a week after the 2021 federal election, the first series of exploratory talks will end this Tuesday (October 5th, 2021).
The Union and the Greens are discussing possible similarities for a new government.
The Greens are striving for a traffic light coalition with the SPD and FDP, but they are not ruling out an alliance with the Union and the FDP.
The so-called Jamaica coalition is seen as the only chance for Union Chancellor candidate and CDU leader Armin Laschet * to save the Union in the Chancellery after the historic election disaster of September 26th.
The liberals are said not to have committed themselves either, but politically they are more inclined towards the Union.
Exploratory talks: Laschet wants to offer the Greens a "future coalition"
The Union has invited the Greens to the consultations on the Euref campus in Berlin.
Against the background of Laschet's announcement that he was offering the Greens and FDP a “future coalition”, the choice of the conference venue should also be a signal to the two possible government partners.
The campus advertises itself as a “future location” where 5,000 people research and work on the topics of energy, mobility and sustainability.
Points of contention between the Union and the Greens:
Energy and climate policy:
The Greens want solar systems on roofs to be mandatory. From 2030 onwards, only emission-free cars are to be registered - that would be the end of the classic internal combustion engine, which is powered by fossil fuels such as gasoline and diesel. The Union rejects bans, relies on incentives. For example, she wants a subsidy program with interest-free loans for owners for more solar roofs. It is also controversial between the Union and the Greens whether the CO2 price in the transport and heating sectors should rise faster - as the Greens want. "The Greens and the Union are light years apart when it comes to climate protection and I have no idea that this could be bridged," Greenpeace Managing Director Martin Kaiser told the press.
Financial and tax policy:
There are many differences here, in particular.
The Greens want to burden high incomes and assets more heavily, which the Union rejects.
The CDU and CSU, on the other hand, want to gradually abolish the solidarity surcharge for everyone.
The Greens want a reform of the debt brake anchored in the Basic Law so that the state can invest more, for example in the climate-friendly restructuring of the economy.
There are many in the Union who oppose a “loosening” of the debt brake.
The Union and the Greens agree: the expansion of green electricity must be accelerated
In principle, the Union and the Greens agree that the expansion of green electricity from wind and sun must be accelerated in order to reduce emissions that are harmful to the climate.
Planning processes should go faster.
However, there are many pitfalls on the way there, including the conflict between climate protection and species protection *.
There is general agreement on reducing the electricity price.
Coal phase-out:
So far, this is planned by 2038 at the latest.
The Greens want an exit by 2030. In the CDU, a possible move forward is met with opposition, especially from the Prime Ministers in the East.
In contrast, CSU boss Markus Söder * has repeatedly called for the coal phase-out to be brought forward significantly: to 2030.
Transport:
Both the Union and the Greens want to expand rail and local public transport so that more people switch from their cars.
The Greens want a general speed limit * on motorways.
This is one of the sticking points, even if the Greens parliamentary leader Anton Hofreiter recently signaled willingness to talk.
The CSU in particular is strictly against it, and there are also major reservations in the CDU.
Exploratory talks - black and green: who can with whom?
Since election day, the Greens have held back with attacks against the Union and especially against Armin Laschet * in order not to spoil the atmosphere of the conversation. Only occasionally were doubts publicly expressed about the ability of the CDU and CSU to govern in view of the internal quarrels - for example by parliamentary group leader Katrin Göring-Eckardt, who is a member of the exploration team: "I don't see at the moment that the Union could be considered fit for exploration, let alone for it capable of governing, ”she told the press a few days ago.
In the CDU it is said that Laschet has a good connection with the Greens leader Robert Habeck *.
Laschet also wanted to speak to Baerbock after the election - but nothing is known about the results.
According to reports, Söder and Habeck can get along well, the CSU boss should also appreciate Baerbock very much.
For criticism and gossip in the CSU election campaign, however, the Bundestag parliamentary group leader Toni Hofreiter, also from Bavaria, was often used.
Exploratory talks between the Union and the Greens: Habeck has experience with Jamaica
There are also several members of the Union's exploratory team * who have government experience with the Greens.
For example, the Schleswig-Holstein Prime Minister Daniel knows Günther Habeck well: In the Jamaica coalition led by Günther since 2017, Habeck was Minister for the Energy Transition, Environment, Agriculture and Digitization until he became head of the Greens in 2018.
Photos from summer 2020 show Günther and Habeck in a good mood on a hike together through Schleswig-Holstein.
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