This week, for the first time in a poll, Eric Zemmour passed Marine Le Pen, relegating her to third place.
But this Sunday, on the set of BFMTV, the president of the National Rally prefers to elude and denounce the "methodology" of this opinion poll that she considers biased.
She is not "worried by conviction and not worried by experience".
And to affirm: "I will be in the second round of the presidential election, I even believe that I will win this election".
She considers herself "best placed to beat Emmanuel Macron in the second round".
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The subject Eric Zemmour, undeclared but omnipresent candidate, is sensitive.
Asked about it, the RN candidate also sweeps away: “I'm going to stop you right away, you invited me to talk about my project.
While you saturate the news channels with the Zemmour phenomenon, the problems of the French go by the wayside.
And there is one who rubs his hands, it's Emmanuel Macron.
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She does not see "the added value" on immigration
The polemicist is "a brilliant man, it is indisputable", however, Marine Le Pen does not see "the added value that he brings in relation to my project, on the theme of immigration".
Eric Zemmour, who is not a candidate, collected 17 to 18% of the voting intentions, in a Harris Interactive poll published on Wednesday.
What lift him to second place in the presidential election, a place that had been occupied for many months by Marine Le Pen, given between 15 and 16%.
"When you are away (from the poll), the various opinion studies in reality do not measure what may happen in the country in the coming months", then argued Marine Le Pen.