Prof. Talia Einhorn: "I did not make assumptions to the previous government that appointed me, and there is no reason for me to act differently this time" | Israel today

Last Friday, when the Advisory Committee for the Appointment of Senior Civil Servants discussed the question of appointing Ronen Bar as GSS chief, one of the committee members, the lawyer Prof. Talia Einhorn, knew that her future, at least in that advisory forum, was also uncertain.

Earlier that week, she was given a pre-dismissal hearing by Cabinet Secretary Shalom Shlomo, after hearing, writing and tweeting posts against the Bennett government.

But Prof. Einhorn, who will celebrate 70 at the end of the year, does not intend to leave without a war.

"Freedom of political expression is fundamental to the democratic regime," she says, when we meet at her home in Tel Aviv.

"To prevent a person from expressing his views," Supreme Court President Meir Shamgar said at the time, there should be an explicit provision of law, and even when there is one, such as the Interior Minister's authority to close a newspaper, Judge Agranat came and said: "Only against clear and immediate danger."

"In my case, it is an advisory committee that examines only one issue - the purity of the seven functionaries: chief of staff, commissioner, IPS commissioner, head of the Mossad, the head of the Shin Bet, the governor of the Bank of Israel and the deputy governor. Six of them have already checked When the hearing was decided, only the appointment of the head of the GSS remained.

"We are not a locating committee. The committee receives material from the public, the candidate and the recommender, and decides on it. Nothing can be invented. At the hearing I said it was a pity that whoever read my tweets on Twitter did not continue reading the committee's opinion. Between my opinions and the work of the committee. "

"Do you know how I got the news of the hearing in my case?"

She adds.

"On September 2, Adv. Ze'ev Lev, from the Movement for Governance, tweeted that a photo of an article was attached: 'Bennett was dishonoring a member of the advisory committee.'

If Bennett has a problem, logic says he would turn to me.

On September 5, I called the committee secretary and said, 'Maybe you can help me and I will also receive a copy of the letter?'

"Why act in this way? To scare others. What the committee does has nothing to do with opinions and political views. The public representatives on the committee are not civil servants, their work is fully voluntary. You should have seen opinions expressed in the media, , And he does not.

Bennett.

"Most of the objections towards him", Photo: Yonatan Zindel / Flash 90

"When I was appointed to the post, all that was required and made was a statement that there was no conflict of interest with the relevant prime minister and ministers, but no one told me, 'You can not express yourself politically.' It would not have been conceivable. The Takshir.

I'm not breaking the law. "

And there are still accepted rules of conduct.

"Loyalty of public representatives is only to the public. I did not make assumptions to the previous government that appointed me, and there is no reason for me to act differently this time. My handling of the committee is to the substance of the matter. To the government, I would not have been banned from speaking. "

But the purpose of the committee is to assist the work of the government, and the foreign plant here.

"Unlike other committees, whose recommendation is binding on the government, this committee only advises. When there was a case where we thought there was a problem with a candidate (the committee recommended not to appoint Moshe Edri to the position of commissioner in November 2018, Ella) came Dina Zilber, then deputy adviser The legal, and announced that if the government nevertheless selects a candidate, the adviser will defend the decision in the High Court.

"This means that the committee's decision must be addressed, but it can also be rejected. And that makes sense. We may have found a problem, but the government will think it is irrelevant. The executive has full responsibility for appointments, and it should choose a candidate at the end of the day "Just as it makes sense for the attorney general's opinion to be merely advice, and not as Aharon Barak turned it into a coercive law at the time."

Is this a necessary committee at all?

"The committee was set up by a government decision. It is not a committee of inquiry, nor does it have a budget. But it has the advantage that people from the public can come and talk. There are also positive opinions, people who say, 'We want the candidate,' or those who say, 'There are problems. "It is difficult with him, and then they will be invited before the committee, and the candidate will also be invited and we will ask him to respond to their words. We are doing our job faithfully."

Moshe Dayan probably would not have passed you by today.

"You can't take people from the past and judge them in the eyes of today. It's a fatal mistake."

What do you think would have happened if Netanyahu was now prime minister, and the committee had a left-wing man?

"I do not remember such a case, but freedom of expression is not the freedom to say that the sun is shining and everything is wonderful. Do you think I have no criticism of the previous government? .

Why not give silence to a government that is trying to change?

"Before the election, Naftali Bennett pledged, above all, to stage a right-wing government. If he had said his plans in advance, his base would have disappeared. How wonderful that he can act now as he pleases, but this is not democracy. You came to bereaved parents and said, ' The terrorists were hard-handed.

That is a terrible thing to do. "

There are still those who think that healing society is no less important.

"Where do you live? You may not hear it on channels 11, 12, 13, but if you open social networks, and I'm on Twitter a lot, of course there's a public debate. All 'healing' and 'healing' are empty slogans. The question is. "It's where the government is taking us, and I personally see dangers. I may have quite a few friends who see it as redemption, but it's a matter of worldview that needs to be discussed."

Mandelblit.

"Represent faithfully", Photo: Coco

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Until a few years ago, few had heard of Prof. Einhorn, an expert in private international law, and until a year ago, a full professor at Ariel University.

However, from the moment it was decided to France in 2018 as a public representative on the Advisory Committee for the Appointment of Senior Officials, ricochets began to arrive: publications about the truths of the doctoral and professor degrees she holds, media reports calling on IDF soldiers to refuse an order Her appointment.

"I was not known to the public, and suddenly seven articles in the Haaretz newspaper," she recalls.

"'The lady is not a professor, she is not a doctor either', 'the lady called on the soldiers to refuse an order', in all this there was no word of truth."

Einhorn approaches the library in the living room and pulls out a book published by Nomos and based on her doctoral dissertation she submitted to the University of Hamburg in Germany.

"In the introduction, I thank Amos Schocken, who opened the Haaretz archive for me for free. There is no money. Material that was worth a lot to me. Not only from the newspaper's website, but also from Google.

"What cost me my health was the accusation that I signed a call for soldiers to refuse an order."

What do you mean?

"I always say to my students: 'The present is praying for the peace of the kingdom,' it is patriarchal, and if I ask to refuse an order, it turns out that in the moment of truth I did the opposite.

"It was not like that. I was a member of the management of the Professors' Circle of Political and Economic Resilience, and we appealed to the government not to issue an evacuation order, and that is something completely different from calling on the soldiers themselves to refuse an order. What a soldier decides is his business.

What did you do?

"Mrs. Dina Zilber collected from me a clarification document that I did not call on the soldiers to refuse an order and certificates proving my history as an academic woman. The day after I handed in the material, I was told by the State Attorney's Office: Shmueli, who explained that 'because you are not a civil servant, we do not represent you, take a lawyer on your behalf.' I told her: 'I am a lawyer and at that moment I appointed myself. Cooperate with me.' She refused.

"I assumed that if I gave them the material, what could it be? I came back in the evening from a concert, and faxed the prosecution's response to a petition filed in court, where it said I had called for soldiers to refuse an order, but it was a long time ago and therefore irrelevant.

"Sorry? No one in the world will find my signature on a petition or a call for refusal of an order. I called and asked, 'How dare you?'

Shmueli told me: 'Take a lawyer and say it's not true.' I said to her: 'Who will believe me? You are the gatekeepers, the public believes you.'

"I raised a great outcry, and she was instructed to submit to the Supreme Court my affidavit, in which I described the sequence of events. I replied to her: 'This is the affidavit, do what you want'.

"At that time I was exhausted. I had an allergy, and I am not an allergic person. David Rosen, the Ombudsman for State Complaints in the courts, who handled the complaint filed on the subject, described in the report that I was scarred and injured with itching.

There I understood the matter that Job was sitting, scratching and holding clay in his hand.

I have not had such a thing, and you can not imagine where it degrades the quality of life.

The High Court, of course, rejected the petition. "

Did the allegations of academic forgery bother you less?

"It seems like a joke. After all, it is impossible to argue with the fact that I have a doctorate, and the truth is that I was also introduced as Professor de la Mate and not rightly so, because I did beautiful things in the academic world.

"I am a regular member of the International Academy of Comparative Law, and when I was elected we were 80 in the world. A year ago I was elected a representative from NYU, New York University, one of the best in the world. "But to accuse me of calling the soldiers to refuse an order was the worst thing for me."

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The smile does not leave Einhorn's face.

Sometimes there is even a dissonance between the guy who fights for his opinions and principles, in front of the optimistic woman who never stops laughing.

"I inherited the smile from my father, who was always optimistic despite the difficult conditions in which he grew up. In 1920, when he was 13, there were pogroms in Belarus and my grandfather decided that there was no great future for the Jews. The young man, 19, was captured by the Poles, and Dad made his way to southern Italy alone, from where he took a ship that brought him to Palestine.

"He died at the age of 83 of cancer. He was very ill for the last seven years of his life, and before he broke up he looked at me and said, 'So this is really the end, but actually everything was so wonderful.' That's the thing you want to stay with and move on. "I did not run away to the forest. I feel every day that life is honey."

Even though you're a warrior?

"I do not know if I am such a warrior. I stand by things that seem important. The Zionist enterprise is the most successful national enterprise of the last centuries, a miracle, and it must be preserved.

"One of the problems is that at some point we told ourselves an untrue story. Anyone shouting 'Occupied Territories', where did it come from? After the Six Day War it was clear to great jurists in the world that it was not occupied territories, International red in the 1980s.

"In international law, occupied territories are those taken from a foreign sovereign recognized in international law. Following the War of Independence, Jordan illegally invaded the territory of Palestine, which was guaranteed in the mandate as a national home for the Jewish people and also approved by the League of Nations and again in the UN Charter.

"In 1950, when Jordan tried to impose sovereignty over the territories of Judea and Samaria, it was recognized by only two countries, Pakistan and England, which had reservations about East Jerusalem.

Arab countries opposed, most notably Syria, which thought the entire territory belonged to it.

It turned out that in the six days Israel entered territory that did not have a recognized foreign sovereign, and therefore it is not occupied territory. "

How would you like to see the Land of Israel?

"This is another question. Of course in the end all nations will live in peace, but the problem today is the dangers lurking in a two-state solution. Even when there is a headache, you do not aim a gun at the temple to solve the problem. "These are Arabs in Judea and Samaria? Or also the Arabs of Israel? Therefore, there is great difficulty in resolving the issue. Currently, if another state is established between Jordan and the sea, it will endanger the existence of Israel."

And if conditions are set?

"You can not place anything. What will you say, demilitarization? Give them weapons, and then what will you do? You have no means of enforcement. They are all practical stories. And if they make a full right of return into Judea and Samaria, then the whole world will ask us, 'What are you anyway? Do we do here? '"

You were angry when Meretz ministers met with Abu Mazen.

"Certainly. It's a problem that ministers who represent me meet, shake hands and be photographed in great love with someone who an hour earlier was pressured by terrorist families. And not only that, how can it be that people here who shout for human rights are embracing a person who has no respect for human rights? "

This is the partner.

"It is impossible to produce a partner. There are good, innocent people on the left who believe wholeheartedly in what they do, but we need to look at reality. A country cannot afford to act like an ostrich."

Make peace with enemies.

"Peace is made with enemies after they have surrendered. I do not know of a case where they have made peace with enemies during a war in which innocent civilians continue to be murdered. Germany and Japan reached an agreement at the end of World War II only after surrendering completely."

Sadat did not give up.

"But he agreed that there would be no more wars and bloodshed. Abu Mazen does not say that. After the Oslo Accords, I came to a conference to promote economic cooperation with the Palestinian Authority, and at the entrance the other side handed out maps in which the State of Israel did not appear." "In blood and fire we will redeem Palestine." That is not what Sadat did. "

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She was born in Tel Aviv to Avraham Assaf, the principal of Dubnov Elementary School and a teacher of Hebrew, arithmetic and Talmud, and to Rebecca, a Bible teacher.

"The truth is that even my left-wing friends, their never-ending preoccupation with world repair, is very Jewish," she says.

"I read this week's Torah portion to this day and write about it every week for my adult grandchildren, because they have stopped teaching these things. The Bible is the book of books because it does not feature placid figures.

The great men of the people also failed and sinned.

Judaism believes that people have a remedy. "

She completed her bachelor's and master's degrees in law at Tel Aviv University, and completed her doctorate with honors at the University of Hamburg in Germany.

In 1973, she married Baruch Einhorn, who has a master's degree in mathematics, a computer scientist who founded the MMRM media in the IDF.

The couple had four children.

• • •

In May 2004, Baruch died of ALS, an incurable muscular dystrophy.

"It's a terrible disease," she says.

"You get up every morning and do not know what awaits you. When my husband fell ill, I was the editor-in-chief of an international magazine in the Netherlands on legal matters of business organizations. I closed the Dutch branch from today to tomorrow.

"At first it was hard for him to open the door, and all of a sudden we saw his muscles erase. This is the hardest blow I got in my life, and it took me many years to say it was time to lay down. Say thank you to them and stop crying. "

It's a lot of time.

"The first two and a half years were very difficult, and then the family doctor said it was a normal period of unbearable mourning. My husband and I were very close, to this day his death feels to me like a kind of disability.

"He was a wonderful person. I would call him 'my computer.' Mishna.

I have a good friend whose husband passed away ten years before me, and she put it nicely.

She said there were a lot of couples for whom it could have been an elegant solution, so why did it actually fall on us? "

"My children were educated in mental independence."

Israel Einhorn, Photo: Yossi Zeliger

• • •

She seeks to preserve the privacy of her children.

“Our children were an outstanding support group in the difficult times,” she says.

"The whole family crystallized. The deceased even said one day that he did not imagine that the children loved him so much."

Her son, Israel Einhorn, is the most familiar face in the family.

In recent years, he served as communications adviser to former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and in 2019 he was questioned on suspicion of harassing Shlomo Pilber, who serves as a state witness at the Netanyahu trial.

Were you worried about the suspicions against him?

"No, that's nonsense. My children are each a world unto themselves, and I love each and every one of them in what he does. We educated them, as I was educated, to intellectual independence."

How did Netanyahu look to you as prime minister?

"Excellent. I can not say that our priorities were the same. To me, the justice system is a serious issue that needs to be addressed, because we are a nation that has existed for generations with a book of laws in hand and to think that this issue has been neglected, hurts me personally.

"On the other hand, on a number of issues such as the Iranian threat, Israel's foreign relations, the fact that he made the world look at the Palestinian issue differently and also created a ring of countries with common interests, these are huge things. He had an understanding of what the Israeli economy should look like "When you look at the international indices, the country has performed very well."

You opposed limiting the term of office of a prime minister to two terms.

"Certainly, because it does not exist in parliamentary democracies. The president of the United States, who is the clear example of the restriction, has enormous powers that the Israeli prime minister does not have and not even the German chancellor.

In the US it may make sense, but in parliamentary democracies the people decide.

"Angela Merkel has now completed a long term, and she has been elected time and time again. The Israeli prime minister, as we see, has no governance in the current situation, so to say that there is a surplus of power? He failed to get a majority of 61 MKs The trial. "

"The case will fall, I have no doubt."

Former Prime Minister Netanyahu arrives for his trial, Photo: Oren Ben Hakon

As a lawyer, a prime minister with three indictments did not bother you?

"Absolutely not. Basic Law: The government explicitly states that he can remain in office until a final verdict is given. To a power official who can overthrow a prime minister? '

"More than that, anyone who follows what is happening with the indictments should be disturbed by what is revealed every day in court. Completely different things. "

This is still the beginning of the trial.

"Salvation is the main witness, and a bribe has two legs. If one falls, then there can be no bribe. The case will fall, I have no doubt. And think it is the flagship case of the prosecution. What happens to an ordinary person who is indicted? I do not say all indictments "Problematic, but let's start with the fact that we have an improper criminal procedure."

Like in the Zadorov case?

"There I was bothered by a few things, but the issue of confession is also problematic. Halacha says 'no man considers himself evil.' That is, his confession against him cannot be used in criminal law. If so he shows, for example, a knife with his fingerprints.

"I remember from the time I was a young lawyer, I had a partner who occasionally represented a guy with a slight retardation. The police would break that guy's nose every time and take out confessions, and it stays in my memory. After a confession you can hardly save that person."

If the Netanyahu portfolio collapses, will people have to pay first?

"Maybe, but the main lesson is to change the method. There are enough models to work with. Does that sound extreme?"

On the other side of the political map they will say yes.

"Then let them reason to the substance of the matter."

How is it that a court also becomes a matter of right and left?

"It became completely political. But it must be said that Yitzhak Rabin also spoke at the time about 'without the High Court and without B'Tselem.'

Rabin was not a right-wing man.

But what, when the right controls it has no governance, and the left does not try to correct because it gets a windfall from a problematic system.

"קח, למשל, עתירות. סטטיסטית, עמותות שבאות מהימין מקבלות יחס אחר מעמותות מהשמאל. ברגע שהחוק חדל לשחק תפקיד, ואתה מסתמך על עילות של 'סבירות' ו'מידתיות', אז זה הולך לפי נטיות לב ואתה רואה את ההתפלגות בפסקי הדין.

"שופטים מסורתיים חושבים א' ושופטים אחרים ב', ובעיקר הם עוסקים בנושאים שהם לא אמורים לעסוק בהם, וכאן הבעיה. יצרו אצלנו הרגשה שיש מערכת מושלמת ואסור לבקרה. הביקורת היא לגופו של עניין ולא לגופו של אדם. יש כאלה שאומרים עלי, 'היא מערערת את מערכת המשפט, את הממשלה'. אני לא מערערת כלום".

גם את מייצגת בדעותייך צדק פוליטי. ביקרת את התנהלות המשטרה לגבי התפרעות אנשי "אלחיראסה" בכפר קאסם, ולעומת זאת, כשאיתמר בן גביר הגיע ליישוב עם דגלי ישראל, עודדת מהצד.

"כפר קאסם נמצא בתחומי הקו הירוק, על זה לא אמור להיות ויכוח. בא דובר המשטרה ויצא בהכרזה ש'אלחיראסה' הם כמו המשמר האזרחי. סליחה, חטפו בן אדם, הכניסו אותו לבניין העירייה וכשהשוטרים הגיעו הם קיבלו מכות. זה משמר אזרחי?"

אז טפלי באותם אנשים, אבל לבוא ליישוב ערבי עם דגל ישראל זו לא פרובוקציה?

"הגענו למצב מטורף שהנפת דגל נחשבת פרובוקציה. לא יכול להיות שיש חלקים בישראל שאין למדינה יותר ריבונות בהם, וזה נכון לא רק לכפר קאסם. אני מהדהדת כמעט בכל יום את מה שקורה בלוד, ברמלה, בעכו, כי איכשהו הם לא קיימים בערוצי התקשורת המרכזיים. על זה אני שופכת אור. להדהד ולומר, 'היי, יש פה בעיה שצריך לשים לב אליה'".

"הגענו למצב מטורף שהנפת דגל נחשבת פרובוקציה". ח"כ איתמר בן גביר בכפר קאסם, בשבוע שעבר,

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דעותיה על מערכת המשפט הביאו להדחתה גם מהוועדה לבחינת רפורמה בסדר הדין האזרחי.

איינהורן: "באתי לשר אמיר אוחנה ואמרתי לו: 'אין מדינה דמוקרטית מערבית שמסתדרת עם 180 תקנות'. אם אתה נותן לשופטים שיקול דעת רחב כמו באותן תקנות, אין דרך לרדת לחקר האמת, כי זה משבש את ההליכים לחלוטין.

"ד"ר אסף פוזנר ואני הכנו מסמך רציני שמסביר את התקלות. היו שתי ישיבות של הוועדה, שכל אחת נמשכה כחמש שעות וחצי, והגענו לתקנה ה־13 מתוך 180. בישיבה השלישית השופט יצחק עמית אמר: 'אי אפשר ככה, התקנות ייכנסו לתוקף ויהי מה בפברואר 2020'. היינו אז בספטמבר 2019. הסברנו שאנחנו לא יכולים, חייבים לעמוד על הבעיות, ואז הנשיאה חיות התערבה, ולפי מאמר שפורסם ב'הארץ' דרשה להחליף אותנו בטענה שאנחנו 'לעומתיים'.

"לא היינו לעומתיים, היינו ענייניים. הצבענו על ליקויים. לא יכול להיות שבכל פעם שאדם מותח ביקורת אומרים 'לעומתי'. הגענו למצב שגם משפטנים מוחאים כף לפסקי הדין יותר מאשר מותחים עליהם ביקורת. כשהייתי סטודנטית, בכל כתב עת אוניברסיטאי היה מדור שנקרא 'הערות פסיקה' שבו היתה ביקורת נוקבת על פסקי דין. מה קרה עכשיו? שר המשפטים לשעבר, אבי ניסנקורן, אימץ את התקנות והכניסן לתוקף החל מ־1 בינואר 2021, עם תיקונים קלים שלא פותרים לחלוטין את הבעיות המרכזיות".

גם לגבי בג"ץ את זועקת לשינוי.

"ההליך של בג"ץ בעייתי ואין לו אח ורע בשום מקום בעולם, כי אין בו ערכאה דיונית שמקיימת דיון לפני הדיון בבג"ץ. הייתי 11 שנה עורכת דין לפני שהגעתי לאקדמיה, הגשתי עתירות והיה קשה לשכנע את בג"ץ, כי הייתי מציגה עובדות והמדינה היתה מספרת סיפור אחר.

"איך אתה מוכיח שהסיפור לא נכון כשאין כלים כמו חקירה נגדית ומומחים? בבג"ץ מגישים תצהירים, אבל זה לא אותו הדבר. נגיד שאתה רוצה להגיע לבית משפט עליון בארה"ב, אתה קודם כל עובר ערכאות דיוניות, אתה לא יכול להגיע היישר לבית המשפט העליון.

"הבעיה השנייה היא שהם נטלו לעצמם סמכות לבטל חוקים על יסוד דברים כמו 'לא סביר', 'לא מידתי', שזה בעיקר בעיני המתבונן. שלא יובן שאני לא חושבת שצריכה להיות ביקורת שיפוטית על מעשי המינהל. לגבי חוקי הכנסת זו שאלה נפרדת. לא באנגליה, שאין בה חוקה, ולא בהולנד, שיש בה חוקה, יש לבית המשפט סמכות לבטל חוקים. אני טוענת שצריך להיות בית משפט מנהלי שידון ויברר את העובדות, ורק אז תגיע הגשת ערעור לבית המשפט העליון.

"יש שם גם היבט פוליטי חזק. בבחירת השופטים לעליון בודקים השקפות פוליטיות, וזו טעות, כי לבית המשפט העליון בישראל יש תפקיד חשוב בכתיבת תקדימים בכל תחומי המשפט. צריך מומחים למשפט אזרחי, למסים, לתחומים השונים שירכיבו את בית המשפט. תוסיף לזה את היועץ המשפטי, שנהיה אצלנו רשות רביעית. אם פרקליט המדינה בארה"ב יעלה על דעתו לייצג עמדה עצמאית משלו, כביכול בשם הציבור, למחרת הוא לא יהיה בתפקיד".

הוא לא צריך לשמש מעצור?

"בשביל זה יש בית משפט. לא יכול להיות שלראש הממשלה ולשרים יהיה פחות מעמד מלמחבל. לו יש ייצוג בבית המשפט, בשעה שעמדת ראש הממשלה והשרים עלולה לא להיות מוצגת כלל. היועץ המשפטי צריך לייצג בנאמנות".

יס מן?

"לא עניין של יס מן. הוא צריך לייצג את עמדת הממשלה באופן מיטבי גם אם היא סותרת תקדימים, ויחליט בית המשפט מה שיחליט. אם הוא איננו מסוגל, אז ברור שהממשלה חייבת למנות אדם שיציג את עמדתה בפני בית המשפט.

"ועדת אגרנט קבעה שחוות דעת של היועץ המשפטי היא עצה, חוץ מבנושא אחד - כשהוא מחליט להעמיד לדין פלילי. מובן שהממשלה צריכה לשקול את עצתו, אבל היא לא חייבת לקבלה. לכן לא יעלה על הדעת שיכתיב לממשלה. לפעמים אני קוראת לזה 'הלכות בית שמאי' - שמאל מותר, אסור ימין".

"אני בכלל לא חושבת שאני הסיפור". פרופ' טליה איינהורן בביתה, השבוע, צילום: אריק סולטן

אם יבחרו להדיח אותך מהוועדה המייעצת, תלכי לבג"ץ?

"כל עוד הביקורת שלי לא התקבלה, אז ברור שאני מכירה בבג"ץ. יותר מזה, המקרה שלי הוא קלאסי מבחינת זכות העמידה בפני בג"ץ, הרי מדובר בפעולה של הממשל.

"נכתב 'בנט מדיח חברה', אבל בנט לא מינה אותי, מינתה אותי ממשלת ישראל. בנט מינה את מר שלום שלמה, מזכיר הממשלה, שיערוך שימוע, אבל שלמה היה צריך לקבל הסמכה מהממשלה, וגם זה בעייתי, כי הכלל הוא שמי שעורך שימוע הוא הגוף המסמיך. לא מזכיר הממשלה שיכתוב המלצה, שעל פיה בנט יחליט והיא תובא לאישור הממשלה. זה לא תקין, מה עוד שבנט נמצא בניגוד עניינים, כי רוב ההשגות שלי הן ישירות כלפיו.

"אבל האמת היא, שאני בכלל לא חושבת שאני הסיפור. אני מנהלת מאבק, כי אנשים כותבים לי בטוויטר 'חזקי ואמצי. את מבטאת דעות שאנחנו מפחדים לבטא'. אנחנו לא יכולים להרשות לעצמנו שאנשים יפחדו להביע דעה, שמא יבולע להם. אני בעד חופש ביטוי, שיאמר כל אחד את דעתו, כך מלבנים נושא.

"אחד הדברים שנאמרו עלי הוא שאני מערערת את לגיטימיות הממשלה. אני מבקרת את התנהלותה, ואני בהחלט רוצה לראות ממשלה אחרת. לא יכול להיות שלא לגיטימי לומר זאת בשלטון דמוקרטי".

משרד רה"מ: "סימן שאלה באשר ליכולתה לייעץ לממשלה באופן אובייקטיבי"

תגובת משרד ראש הממשלה: "הוועדה המייעצת למינוי תפקידים בכירים היא ועדה חשובה שפעילותה חייבת להיעשות באופן ממלכתי וענייני. הסיטואציה הנוכחית, שבה חברת הוועדה תוקפת מדי יום במילים בוטות, בעלות אג'נדה פוליטית מובהקת, את הממשלה שלה היא מייעצת, עלולה לפגוע באמון הציבור בשיקול דעתה של הגב׳ איינהורן בוועדה. קריאותיה של איינהורן להפלת הממשלה, כמו גם אמירותיה השוללות את הלגיטימציה של חברי הממשלה, מציבות סימן שאלה גדול באשר ליכולתה לייעץ לממשלה באופן אובייקטיבי. לפיכך, זומנה הגב' איינהורן לשימוע על פי הכללים, שבמהלכו שטחה את טענותיה בהרחבה, ואלו נבחנות כעת באופן יסודי ומעמיק".

תגובת משרד המשפטים: "בניגוד לאופן הצגת הדברים, ראוי להדגיש כי פרקליטות המדינה היא שהגנה על החלטת הממשלה למנות את פרופ' איינהורן, ובעקבות זאת העתירה נדחתה. טענות פרופ' איינהורן בעניין ייצוגה עלולות להציג תמונה מטעה. במהלך הטיפול בעתירה הובהר לפרופ' איינהורן, פעם אחר פעם, כי ככלל, בהתאם לכלל הנוהג זה שנים ארוכות, פרקליטות המדינה מייצגת בבית המשפט את הממשלה, שהיא הגורם הממנה, ולא את הגורם המתמנה. לא היה כל מקום לשנות מכך בעניין זה, בפרט משום שהוצגו טענות אישיות כלפי פרופ' איינהורן המצויות בידיעתה האישית בלבד.

"For this reason alone, Prof. Einhorn was asked, as is usually the case, to submit a response on her behalf, in which she could make any claim she wished and submit an affidavit of facts of her personal knowledge. That the State Attorney's Office exceptionally submit an affidavit on behalf of Prof. Einhorn, even though it was not represented by the State Attorney's Office, so that the picture necessary for the court would be presented to him in full. "Only the factual matter to which it was required to address, a reference to this was also added to the state announcement. The Supreme Court did not find any defect in this."

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