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Rehavam Zeevi's daughter fights for his honor: "Shooting a dead man is a new kind of heroism" - Walla! news

2021-10-16T12:33:36.194Z


Masada Zeevi refutes the allegations against her father in an interview with the Maariv supplement. "The norms were different, hand on shoulder is this sexual harassment?", She attacks. She supports Mito, but "does not understand why Colette Avital has just woken up." On his actions in the IDF: "An army man cannot afford to be humane"


One day Ruth Dayan received a lion as a gift.

The wife of the defense minister at the time did not quite know what to do with the pampering gift, so she decided, as is customary with bonbonnieres, to transfer it to Gandhi.

Rehavam Ze'evi, General of the Central Command at the time, picked up the animal at the base and treated it impartially.



"What's the problem with that?", His daughter is astonished today. "People say, 'Dad bought a lion and lived with him in some imaginary world.'

Rehavam Zeevi in ​​the Yom Kippur War (Photo: Official website, IDF Archives at the Ministry of Defense)

People say your father used soldiers to take care of the lion.



"We need to feed him, no? If we don't have nature, the lion's place in a zoo. What's the difference between a zoo and a Central Command? What has Dad actually done wrong? In recent years everything my dad has done is misinterpreted. People have a tendency to chat, throw words. , They add more and more sentences until they turn him into a monster. They do not understand the meaning and the price his family pays because of this talk. Once upon a time there was some brotherhood, connection, a different Israeliness. "And it hurts that people forget the half-full glass and focus only on the half-empty one. My father had a full glass."



Even if your father was once a myth, the research and publications on it shattered it.



"Anyone who knew the real Rehavam Zeevi admired him and his personality and conduct. Even today there are so many people who love my father but have no say or influence, and because of age they also disappear. I feel that in recent years there are good spoons from the public. Dad knew "Keep the state and whatever, but the state does not know how to keep it back."



Maybe because the country has changed too?



"The one who speaks today against my father is the one who opposed him all along. The left never liked him. The left fought him, and he fought the left back harder. Now everyone takes the opportunity and dances on the blood, but today the mentality and the "The norms that were customary 60 years ago. It is not fair. It is impossible to take from a person the juice and the fruit and the good in it when you need it, and when it is suddenly uncomfortable, forget it all."



What Gandhi are you experiencing?



"I experienced two Gandhis," she says in tears.

"One is decent, valued, a friend without conditions and forever and ever, insanely talented, loves man and loves life. And the other is another Gandhi who was like material in the hands of his opponents." The public, and again this year, many ministers and MKs announced that they would boycott the National Mourning Day ceremony in his memory.

This is not an unusual move.

Since the serious publications about him, many parties in the Knesset have been absent from the special debate marking the day he was murdered.

"Hypocrisy and interests"

This did not prevent the family members, including his daughter, from coming to the Knesset in large numbers and dealing with the charged attitude. "I was in dissonance between a state embrace and a state hypocrisy," accuses Masada. "Prime Minister Bennett complimented my father and described his important work for the security of the country and I felt compassion and warmth towards the family. Netanyahu was also very moved by his remarks and Smutrich's speech was interesting and moving. "He could have significantly increased his supporters. But alongside all that, I also had to contain the hypocrisy, superficiality and interests of other representatives in the state hat."



Knesset Speaker Miki Levy did not attend the ceremony on Mount Herzl. I know that the position of his party leader is to boycott the memorial, but I said to myself that Levy, as Speaker of the Knesset, is most committed to a government decision and representation of the Knesset at the ceremony. I texted a request to Avigdor Lieberman's wife to try this year, in the spirit of the inclusive and unifying new government, to speak to the hearts of the boycotters so that I would not repeatedly repeat the boycott to my father while my family and I come once a year to embrace the trauma imposed on us. Mansour Abbas, "Is it impossible to honor my father's memory? Is he more of an enemy than he is considered an enemy?"



There are no allegations of rape or sexual harassment against Abbas.



"The boycott of my father caused my two sons who came to a memorial service in the Knesset to experience grief and difficulty. They do not want to allow the Knesset hypocrisy to touch their grandfather they loved so much. I am overwhelmed. Painful. Sensitive. A few years after Rabin's assassination Now it's a little easier for you. And she said, 'No, on the contrary, as time goes on it gets harder.' Today I understand what she was talking about, because since Dad's murder, nothing has rested or calmed down. "Outwardly I learned to live with it, but I'm still very emotional. Every word, every mention of him can light me up like a match and throw me into the days after the murder. And when something related to it excites me, I burst into tears." From a military hero and political leader to a racist who persecutes Arabs and is a serial harasser. In an interrogation published about him in "Fact", five different women claimed against him that he had harassed them. One testified that he raped her in his office.Another investigation alleges that he treated Arabs severely and abused the bodies of terrorists. The sharp gap between the myth and the things that came up in the publications about him shattered his family to pieces.

Masada Zeevi (Photo: Flash 90, Hadas Porush)

Masada describes "pain that does not let up on what they did with his character, memory, work and actions. It accompanies me everywhere all day. And it never stopped. "A bridge named after my father. Guy Maroz wrote the play in which Norman Issa plays the Arab mayor in front of a poster about my father with a black ribbon on it, ostensibly a state image but in practice one that makes him a racist."



How did you feel when you watched the show?



"I did not know in advance what I was going to see. Maybe people do not see what I see, because a friend bought me the tickets and did not imagine, a pure soul like her, how it will affect me. I came to the show with my son Sier, who gave up a trip to Sinai for her. I tried to disconnect emotionally to focus on the content but I could not, because my dad represented the ultimate racist figure no matter how much wit or humor they tried to cover for it. Dad was not a racist. I grew up in a home surrounded by Arab, Druze and Bedouin friends. When I got married in a modest wedding at my parents' house, when only the nuclear family was invited, it was clear to me that I had to invite Salah and Tawfiq Zoeibi from Nazareth because they were like my family. , Electricity and water.He greatly helped to resolve conflicts between clans and hurt the situation of SLA soldiers who had been abandoned by the state and lost their identities.So he helped Job call for a lobby for them. I remember that an Arab woman knelt to give birth in an Arab village in the Galilee, and because of the rains the roads of the village became mud and it was not possible to evacuate her to a hospital. The midwife's husband served in one of the cruisers and was in an operation outside the home. It could not be obtained, but the midwife and her mother knew that only one phone would save them, so they called my father who immediately launched a helicopter at them. I remember Dad asking them to burn hay in the backyard so that the pilot would identify their location and refer them to a military parachute in Nazareth. There a commandant was waiting for them who took them to the English hospital. There is a village in the Galilee that, as a tribute to ongoing evil and the help my father extended in place of the government and the authorities, called the main street by its name. My father loved Arabs, respected them and cared for them. Thousands of Arabs came to honor him at the funeral and at Shiva. "The midwife's husband served in one of the cruisers and was in an operation outside the home. It could not be obtained, but the midwife and her mother knew that only one phone would save them, so they called my father who immediately launched a helicopter at them. I remember Dad asking them to burn hay in the backyard so that the pilot would identify their location and refer them to a military parachute in Nazareth. There a commandant was waiting for them who took them to the English hospital. There is a village in the Galilee that, as a tribute to ongoing evil and the help my father extended in place of the government and the authorities, called the main street by its name. My father loved Arabs, respected them and cared for them. Thousands of Arabs came to honor him at the funeral and at Shiva. "The midwife's husband served in one of the cruisers and was in an operation outside the home. It could not be reached, but the midwife and her mother knew that only one phone would save them, so they called my father, who immediately launched a helicopter at them. I remember Dad asking them to burn hay in the backyard so that the pilot would identify their location and refer them to a military parachute in Nazareth. There a commandant was waiting for them who took them to the English hospital. There is a village in the Galilee that as a tribute to ongoing evil and the help my father extended in place of the government and the authorities, they named the main street after him. My father loved Arabs, respected them and cared for them. Thousands of Arabs came to honor him at the funeral and at Shiva. "There is a village in the Galilee that as a tribute to ongoing evil and the help my father extended in place of the government and the authorities, they named the main street after him. My father loved Arabs, respected them and cared for them. Thousands of Arabs came to honor him at the funeral and at Shiva. "There is a village in the Galilee that as a tribute to ongoing evil and the help my father extended in place of the government and the authorities, they named the main street after him. My father loved Arabs, respected them and cared for them. Thousands of Arabs came to honor him at the funeral and at Shiva. "



If he loved Arabs so much, where did the offer to make a transfer come from?



"Dad's treatment of terrorists was different. That's where the wolf came from. Until the day he died, he only thought about how to keep the civilians and IDF soldiers safe, whom he called 'saints.' Therefore, he suggested that terrorists who are not interested in integrating into Israeli society and accepting our existence in the country, will be given the option to return to the countries from which they came and live within a culture that is acceptable to them. My father, as a lover of Arabs, did not feel superior to them, on the contrary, but he was unequivocal and firm when it came to murderers, terrorists or poisoned people. He recognized that the same extremist group was not interested in reaching any order, as far as it was concerned that we would flee overseas or be in the sea, and therefore acted against it. My father grew up in Jerusalem and experienced riots and murders. It burned in him and he was anxious for the existence of the state and believed that in order to strengthen itself it must always think a few steps ahead. He was a great believer in deterrence, a combination of officer and gentleman, sword and bible.



A gentleman abusing corpses?



"He did not abuse the bodies. After he caught the damned and murderous terrorists of women and children, and after they were killed, the helicopter would collect the bodies, and my father asked that the body be hung on the helicopter and pass over the village from which the terrorist came to deter others from carrying out attacks. Abuse. It's a deterrent. If a man wants to sacrifice his life for a murderer, please. An army man can not afford to be humane in front of a terrorist with a loaded gun. And Dad was a military man all his life. In the rocks, in the caves. The terrorists are guerrilla fighters who grew up in the wild, and the soldiers did not just look for them in the hiding places. But my father did not give up. The cave and found a terrorist there.I feel that instead of coming and saying thank you to my father for everything he did and sacrificed for the country,We need to explain and talk and apologize to those who do not have a military understanding of what happened on the ground. "



Claims of rape and harassment of women, as emerged from a "fact" investigation, do not require military understanding.



"I do not know what was there, but Ilana Dayan also does not know what was there. And it is impossible to claim acts behind a curtain without a face and without a name in front of a person in the grave. It can be done to anyone. It is a scandal in my eyes. such a".



Did you watch the investigation?



"Yes, with a big tear. Rivka Michaeli arrived, who for years says she was harassed but this time agreed to reveal details. And according to her, at my brother's bar mitzvah held at Moshe Dayan's house, my father put his hand on her shoulder in the trimmed position. "People are sexual harassment? And it's been 60 years."



Rebecca Michaeli did not speak on her shoulder. She spoke of "malicious hands that touched me and left a scar that I carried all my life."



"I was not there, but 60 years ago the norms were completely different. When I watched the investigation, I realized that the force is like a Greek tragedy. There is Ilana Dayan and her soldiers with a stage and power and precious resources, in front of a painful and broken family of a champion To the state and fight as a soldier and as a commander, and this family must speak on behalf of the dead and protect him. "



How did your family cope with the revelations?



"My mother said the day after the broadcast that they killed Gandhi twice, once the terrorists at the Hyatt Hotel and a second time in an investigation of a 'fact'. The show broke my mother. Since the broadcast she asked for her death Helpless in the face of the denunciations. But the family decided to stay with the hug, appreciation and gratitude from the people of the valley that no Ilana can rewrite. These people did not forget the bullets that whistled over his head and the best warriors who fell beside him. So too are conducting honor Hanukkah Torch Relay begins in the morning and ends in the evening at the Western Wall monument valley with thousands of soldiers and youth. "



Should a person who is so serious allegations against him will serve an example to soldiers and youth?



"I do not see what Ilana Dayan sees, and it turns out that there are quite a few people who do not see what she saw but who he really was. Israel and scholarships for journeys from the biblical period to the present day. This project connects thousands of students to a new experience and exposes them to the geography and archeology of the country. .



Your father's commemoration costs the country many millions every year. Should so many sums be invested in commemorating a person whose wrongdoings have been linked in his name?



"We do not use the commemorative money to commemorate him. We want through his commemoration to connect students to the love of the country and to know its history. Everyone who participates in the trips takes another step in this direction."

Colette Avital and Shimon Peres (Photo: Government Press Office, Yaakov Saar)

Colette Avital claimed last week in an interview with the newspaper "Haaretz" Shimon Peres late molested her. The feeling of solidarity with his family?



"Peres's family encountered a situation which needs to digest the Emirates Colette composure.

The shock that apparently lands on her freezes and paralyzes.

This is how I felt after Ilana Dayan's research.

I felt like a mute wanting to scream.

I was paralyzed and in pain and could not pick myself up and deal with the one-sided accusation, where the stage and empathy are automatically the accusing side.

I felt that the complainant's bullet had become a weapons depot firing to this day.

Shooting a dead person is a new kind of heroism, and there is no end to the complaint against a dead person.

This is an absurd situation in which one party wakes up and pours statements and accusations on a dead person when he knows that it is impossible to get a response from him. "And to the



body of the Colette and Peres affair?



"I do not understand why she woke up just now, when she had decades to confront a living person. The balance of power is impossible, and this is a phenomenon that should be disqualified. Defamation of a dead person can not revive the dead to disqualify the complaints. Justice. But where do you think the justice of the dead who can not respond in front of you? That was burned. "



Are you blaming the women?



"Absolutely not. No party can be blamed for generalization, but it is worthwhile for each party to understand that beyond proper norms of behavior, it must set boundaries and not a moment later."



Have you ever been bothered by yourself?



"I think more than once. And there is no woman in her 50s and 60s who has not been harassed. That was the style, that was the norm. How did someone tell me? If a woman was not harassed at the time, she felt she was not worth it."



This is a terrible statement.



"It's awful to say, but those were the norms at the time. So I too like many women was exposed to harassment. It's nice to see how the 'Who's revolution changed the norms and put women, their power and abilities on the table and not just in the field of harassment. "The position in the companies was more gendered, today the choice is mainly driven by skills, and it is good that the 'Mi To Pay' movement has been established that cares about equal pay. I think many business people recognize the female abilities in management as an additional value."

Rehavam Zeevi (Photo: IDF Archives and the Defense System, photographers in the camp)

Masada Zeevi's childhood, the third of Gandhi's five children, was not simple or acceptable. Like the childhoods of the Dayan family, who mostly raised themselves, the children of the Zeevi family were educated to extreme independence. "I grew up in a challenging home with a dominant father who on the one hand was not physically present in the home, but his spirit and character were always in the rooms," says Masada. "The house was not standard and Dad was not standard either. He did not accompany me in business and was not a support for me but I always knew he existed because he had a very strong and clear presence and his demands from us were also very clear."



"On Saturdays he used to take us on trips and meetings with friends, some of them Arabs and Druze or Bedouins. He was very patriotic, so at home we heard mostly Hebrew music and IDF bands. Dad also liked to hear the Red Army choir, but other than that it was not advisable to hear foreign music in his presence. Growing up, we met at home a variety of people from the military, the theater, the business world and the music world. Dad had human love and he connected to each of them at eye level. Different periods in his life took different shades out of him, but he always remained true to himself and his style. "



In interviews with him and many articles about him, he described his style as forceful.



"There was a very big gap between the image created for him and the person he really was. I understand his part in contributing to this situation, because he was introverted and serious in interviews, very opinionated and radiant, add to that his famous incantation said out of integrity but not everyone could digest It was already inside him, and no man likes the truth inside. He was more of a statesman and less of a politician. "It settled with someone who didn't know him. But as he got older, I actually saw some softening in him and a circle of certain corners."



Rounding corners?



"He was more contained. For example until he grew up, he would always come home and go up to the library. But near his death, when we sat in the garden on Sukkot, he came home and instead of going up to the library he went out to the garden and sat with us. His priorities were always the goals and tasks, and suddenly it changed. Suddenly he allowed himself to take breaks, take a break for the benefit of the family and the children and grandchildren. "And the grandchildren and he sat with us. I think his soul felt and wanted to say goodbye."

"Dad was torn."

Netanyahu and Masada Zeevi at the memorial service for her father (Photo: Walla! NEWS system, Kobi Gideon, GPO)

Zeevi was assassinated by assassins in October 2001. The day before the assassination, he announced his resignation from the government together with Minister Avigdor Lieberman due to the IDF's withdrawal from the Abu Sneina and Harat a-Sheikh neighborhood overlooking the Jewish community in Hebron, but the resignation did not take effect. He was a minister in the government at the time of his death. Three terrorists from the Popular Front ambushed him at the entrance to his room at the Hyatt Hotel in Jerusalem. The morning of IDF waves, when the three assassins fired three bullets at his head from a short range. A few minutes later his wife Yael found him drenched in his blood. Attempts to save his life were unsuccessful, and doctors at Hadassah Hospital determined his death.



She received the phone call announcing the assassination of him when she was in the United States. "I did not understand who was calling me before seven in the morning," she recalls today. "My little son picked up the phone and said one woman was crying on the phone. I picked up the phone and Mom said to me in a strangled voice 'Shoot him.' Dad was murdered on my mom's birthday. "It was a big trauma and at the funeral I was in a kind of shock. I walked like a doll on a wire that was moved from place to place, but at night, when everyone was asleep, I fell apart."



Why did your father refuse security?



"He did not refuse security, he did not want to be secure when the civilians were exposed. He would be alarmed every time he went to the Gaza Envelope settlements to strengthen the residents and mothers with cars full of children in front of him and behind him did not get security from the state. "Wanted or not wanted, they had to know where he was and protect him, because ministers must get security by law, no matter if they want it or not."



But if he refuses, what should they do?



"So you have to raise a flag, warn, but instead it was very convenient to drop the omission on my father. His image was of a man who is not afraid of anyone and therefore it was very easy to stick to him statements of refusal to security. The GSS also issued a statement that it examined Himself following the murder and that he concluded that he acted accordingly and that the blame was on my father, but a body could not examine itself. When the statements were strengthened, I suggested to my mother to go to the Foreign Affairs and Defense and ask to check reliably and professionally to allegations father compared the behavior of the Shin Bet.



"Committee headed by David Shield convened and met with all the parties involved, and her conclusions were, inter alia, found deficiencies in the treatment unit To secure personalities in the face of Dad's regular stay at the hotel, and that the GSS "did not correctly interpret the intelligence picture on the basis of the materials available to him." However, the subcommittee investigating the murder noted in its conclusions that the unit had difficulty securing Minister Zeevi due to non-compliance with its instructions.

"Dad would have been torn between the friendship with Bibi and his actions"

Immediately after the shiva, Masada invited her mother Yael to live in her house with the children and grandchildren in order to strengthen and recover from the disaster. "She ended up with the murder," tears from her side. "We were afraid she would not want to live. She was a fighter, and the memories and grandchildren gave her strength and energy to go on living, but in the rooms she told me, I persevere but I lost the taste of life. She gave up. From a woman who was very active, who went to events and pastimes, she gathered "Into herself and locked herself in the house. She died 16 years later, in the week of the memorial service for his death."



Since then Masada has missed them both. "I'm sorry they don't see the boys and grandchildren growing up," she says, "Dad really liked little kids, and even though he wasn't much at home, there was something very family and tribal about him."



Your father espoused a hawkish right-wing ideology. If he were alive, what would he say today about Netanyahu?



""I think he was torn between his friendships with Bibi and things that are said and presented by the media about his and his family's actions."



And what do you think about the Likud and the government of change?



"The Likud government has not functioned for a long time, so for me, any government that has been formed brings some hope and is welcomed, especially a government that represents everyone. "I wish Levant that he would know how to react in time and be a charismatic leader as a prime minister should be and be able to get into the big shoes. Until now, he has not been able to get into the content."



Who did you vote for in the last election?



"To Gideon Saar. I love value people with integrity and acceptance of action."

Source: walla

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