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2021-10-21T04:04:34.399Z


At "Markus Lanz", Green Co-boss Robert Habeck speaks about the status of negotiations with the SPD and FDP. He defends the preliminary results.


At "Markus Lanz", Green Co-boss Robert Habeck speaks about the status of negotiations with the SPD and FDP.

He defends the preliminary results.

Hamburg - At "Markus Lanz" the politician Robert Habeck (Greens) speaks on Tuesday evening about the result of the exploratory talks between the SPD, Greens and FDP.

He admits in advance: “Sure, this is an exploratory paper.

These things are spongy.

By definition.

Because they are exploratory papers and not bills. "

The politician Karin Prien (CDU) acknowledged the progress of the traffic light efforts so far with words of praise: "To be honest, it reminded me a bit of our soundings in Schleswig-Holstein in 2017. Simply in terms of style." Habeck grins dreamy and confirmed: “Me too.” “If you want to make a difference in this republic, which of course needs reform,” says Prien, “then you need a mutual departure.” And: “I'm totally jealous that I am now can't be there. "

"Markus Lanz" on the exploratory paper: "Sociopolitically it is a left-wing program"

The fact that Ralph Brinkhaus (CDU) recently spoke of an unprecedented slide to the left is relativized by Prien: “Well, socio-politically it's a left-wing program, that's how it is. But that's what you started for. That's not surprising either. I think the truth is a bit in the middle. ”Talkmaster Lanz counters all the harmony with a tweet from Luisa Neubauer, who expressed her disappointment with the climate policy ambitions of the exploratory paper.

Habeck thinks: “She is right.

At the same time, I would like to say briefly once again what an exploratory paper can achieve.

The word 'spongy' is too flippant.

That is not vague compared to the papers that otherwise accompanied explorations. "So far, there have been no exploratory papers:" We talked to each other, then looked each other in the eyes, drank a schnapps and said: We want the next few years govern.

And then you started to make coalition agreements.

Exploratory papers are more or less a newer invention. "

Traffic light coalition is taking shape: Robert Habeck explains at “Markus Lanz” which points still need to be worked on

It is important for the parties to define common rules that can be relied on, explains Habeck and explains: “It is actually a matter of checking the exploratory phase: Do you have enough trust? Are you able to resolve difficult conflicts? And that is proven to a certain extent by these papers. They are not coalition papers, they are not bills, they are documents of the will to reach agreement. That is not all, but it is so much that you can document a solid basis. Against this background, of course, a lot of people can say: This is missing and it has not been discussed and that is not specific enough. It's all half right and half wrong. "

For example, the journalist Ulrich Schulte lacks the climate money with which the Greens campaigned in the climate chapter of the exploratory papers.

“That's right,” replies Habeck, referring to the first sentence of the traffic light document, which states that not all topics have been discussed: “The energy money is, I don't know whether it was explained here in the broadcast, the return of the CO2 tax revenue to citizens divided by heads.

So a kind of basic energy income. ”Because it is technically complicated, you have to build up first.

"Markus Lanz" (ZDF) at the speed limit: "Because one of the coalition partners didn't want that and everything was tied to it"

Habeck explains further, that they wanted to avoid “that we write x test orders in there. This is only the case in one or two places. That is why we have made a commitment: Until this question has been dealt with deeply enough, there will be a significant reduction and then, in the future, the EEG surcharge will be abolished. "

On the other hand, a general speed limit was discussed, which will not exist.

Habeck makes no secret of why: “Because one of the coalition partners didn't want that and everything was tied to it.” “Everything?” Lanz assures himself, before Habeck names Ross and Reiter: “The FDP made it very, very tough.

Conversely, it has been admitted that we have an end date for the fossil combustion engine in Germany, derived from the EU targets.

So in that respect, I can be very satisfied with it in terms of mobility, based on CO2.

That is very ambitious. "

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Greens boss Robert Habeck visits "Markus Lanz"

© Screenshot: ZDF / "Markus Lanz"

"Markus Lanz" - these were his guests on October 19th:

  • Robert Habeck

    (Greens) - politician

  • Karin Prien

    (CDU) - politician

  • Kristina Dunz

    - journalist

  • Ulrich Schulte

    - journalist

“What I'm actually getting at,” Habeck tries to explain his view of things, “is that the game of 'Who will prevail?' it's kind of interesting, but doesn't acknowledge what's happening at all. Instead, it pretends that there is still an election campaign. ”Mutual concessions are a necessary part of these negotiations, explains the Green leader:“ These are unreasonable expectations, but we also expect the others to do something. And this can ideally result in a government that tries with all its energy to carry out the projects it agrees on. And I speak a little from experience, that's how it worked in Schleswig-Holstein in the Jamaica coalition. "

“And that is what the exploratory paper does.

The game changer is not the sum of the measures, the game changer is that it may be possible that opposing ideological positions in different areas achieve something in common, ”Habeck almost put together.

“Markus Lanz” - the conclusion of the show

The "Markus Lanz" round worked on Tuesday evening in detail on the exploratory paper of the SPD, Greens and FDP. Regardless of whether it is coal or wind power, speed limit, energy money or state finances: the politician Robert Habeck (Greens) patiently answers questions from moderator Markus Lanz and journalists Kristina Dunz and Ulrich Schulte. Union politician Karin Prien (CDU) is noticeably reticent in the debate and has almost nothing but praise for her political opponent in her luggage. Only at the end of the broadcast does the group look at the Union with Prien and ask her about the future CDU party chairmanship. Her answer: “None of these Catholic men, be it four or five, alone will bring this party forward again. But all four of these men will need a team, and a teamthat also depicts society. "

List of rubric lists: © Screenshot: ZDF / "Markus Lanz"

Source: merkur

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