The SPD, Greens and FDP have announced a quick decision in the current talks.
A new coalition should be in place in a few weeks.
The news ticker.
The SPD, Greens and FDP are still working hard on the first traffic light coalition * in the federal government.
Today (October 21st) afternoon the coalition negotiations start in 22 working groups.
Before the talks, the first personnel decisions were already leaked.
At the SPD, the former Juso chairman Kevin Kühnert is probably involved in the negotiations (
see update from October 21, 11 a.m.
).
The new coalition should be in place at the beginning of December and thus earlier than previously aimed for (see update from October 21, 3:14 p.m.).
This news ticker is continuously updated.
Update from October 21, 3:21 p.m
.: There are still issues on which the traffic light coalitionists disagree.
But you have "a good sense of where the areas of conflict are," said Wissing.
The problem areas should first be discussed in the working groups.
If there are still any ambiguities, this should resolve the previously known main round of negotiations consisting of the party margins.
There should be no pauses in negotiations, "we cannot postpone conflicts, that makes no sense," said Wissing.
The press conference ended shortly afterwards.
Traffic light rushes forward: Coalition should already be in place on St. Nicholas Day
Update from October 21, 3:14 p.m
.: On December 6, Olaf Scholz could be the new Federal Chancellor. "At the end of November we want to have an agreement submitted," says FDP General Secretary Volker Wissing. The new coalition should already be in place at the beginning of December. "That is ambitious, but we have the confidence to do it." Greens managing director Kellner affirmed: "The goal before Christmas has now become St. Nicholas Week."
Update from October 21, 3:10 p.m
.: Now it starts.
"We are all looking forward to it, the mood is good," said SPD General Secretary Lars Klingbeil as the first to speak.
With the exception of the weekends, 22 working groups are to meet for discussions almost every day in order to then develop position papers on the individual areas by November 10th.
The finished coalition agreement should be available by the end of November.
The result then has to be confirmed within the party - at a special party congress for the FDP, and in the form of a digital membership survey for the Greens.
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On the way to the press conference.
FDP general secretary Volker Wissing, SPD official colleague Lars Klingbeil and Greens managing director Michael Kellner.
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Update from October 21, 2:59 p.m
.: The press conference scheduled for 2:45 p.m. has been delayed.
It is not yet foreseeable when Klingbeil, Kellner and Wissing will appear in front of the press.
Update from October 21, 2:30 p.m
.: The SPD, Greens and FDP will begin their negotiations at 3 p.m. to form a traffic light coalition.
Before that, there should be a press statement, which we will accompany for you in the live ticker.
SPD General Secretary Lars Klingbeil, Greens Federal Manager Michael Kellner and FDP General Secretary Volker Wissing comment.
Update from October 21, 12.20 p.m.:
Armin Laschet
, of all people, is feeling
the consequences of the traffic light explorations that are starting today: Because of the talks between the SPD, Greens and FDP in Berlin, not all heads of government would now attend the annual prime ministerial conference at Schloss Drachenburg on Thursday afternoon appear in Königswinter, North Rhine-Westphalia, announced the Düsseldorf State Chancellery.
At his first and last MPK as host *, the outgoing NRW Prime Minister Armin Laschet (CDU) will therefore not line up with incomplete rows for the actually planned group photo at the stormy Drachenfels *.
The usual representative "class photo" is to be taken on the last day of the conference on the Petersberg - then probably no longer with storm hairdos.
Coalition negotiations for the traffic light: SPD personnel already leaked - Kühnert at the front, a minister not
Update from October 21, 11.00 a.m.:
When the SPD, Greens and FDP switch from exploratory to coalition talks today at 3 p.m., this is not only associated with a symbolic change of title - the conversation mode is also different: instead of speaking in a large group, the three Traffic light parties in a total of 22 working groups with each other over content-related details.
In the end, the exploratory paper had only defined guidelines.
And left some questions unanswered.
At least in the case of the SPD, it is already clear which politicians should conduct which negotiations. According to information from the
editorial network Germany
(RND), Vice-President Kevin Kühnert will lead the SPD group in matters of building and living. Several ministers are also represented in the talks: Foreign Minister Heiko Maas as negotiator for foreign, security and development policy, Minister of Justice Christine Lambrecht for internal security, Minister of Labor Hubertus Heil for work. Environment Minister Svenja Schulze is only a simple negotiator in the field of “Climate, Energy, Transformation”; the talks for the SPD are led by parliamentary deputy Matthias Miersch.
The decisions could be seen as a clue to the controversial ministry appointments - but do not have to.
In any case, the working groups are not congruent with the layout of later ministries, and at the same time the SPD will naturally only be able to occupy part of the departments.
Still, it is interesting who from the second row of the Social Democrats leads negotiating groups: According to the RND, these are, for example, the parliamentary managing director Carsten Schneider (economy), party vice Serpil Midyatli (family, children, youth) or the Saarland regional chief Anke Rehlinger (mobility) and you NRW official colleague Thomas Kutschaty (modern state).
According to the report, the information comes from an internal paper entitled “Working Group Structure”.
SPD, Greens and FDP start in traffic light coalition talks: Baerbock counters Hartz allegations
Update from October 21, 9.41 a.m.:
The traffic light coalition negotiations start in the afternoon - and of all things the two larger partners, the SPD and the Greens, seem to be on the defensive in advance (
see also the previous update
). Greens leader Annalena Baerbock * is now trying to dispel fears of her own base. Also on the subject of Hartz IV.
"We want to change more than just the name in the basic security," said Baerbock the newspapers of the Funke media group on Thursday.
In the case of citizen benefits, it must be ensured that “it is clearly worthwhile for people to take up a job, even if it is only a small position”.
At the same time, the standard rates must allow a life in dignity and participation in society, said Baerbock.
The SPD, Greens and FDP have "so far defined this in guidelines, but we will still have to wrestle in the coalition negotiations".
Also in the ARD “Tagesthemen” the party chairman had announced that they wanted to “fight” (
see update from 6:32 am
).
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Annalena Baerbock at the Little Green Party Congress.
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On the other hand, the CDU Economic Council and the German Trade Union Federation (DGB) expressed clear doubts about the Hartz plans in the exploratory paper *.
DGB boss Reiner Hoffmann called on the SPD, Greens and FDP to use the opportunity “for a fundamental redesign of the Hartz IV system”.
"Hartz IV must be overcome and not just renamed," Hoffmann told the Funke newspapers.
The general secretary of the CDU Economic Council *, Wolfgang Steiger, criticized the citizens' money as a "smoke candle, because the design remains far too vague".
He emphasized that at least the obligation to cooperate should remain.
"There must be no right to be lazy at the expense of hardworking taxpayers"
Traffic light coalition: upper hand for the FDP?
The SPD also denies this
Update from October 21, 8.28 a.m.:
Before the coalition negotiations between the SPD, Greens and FDP began today, SPD parliamentary group leader Rolf Mützenich contradicted the impression that his party had achieved little in the explorations compared to the FDP.
That was not the case at all, said Mützenich on Thursday on Deutschlandfunk.
The SPD has housed a lot with the higher minimum wage, more housing and a basic child benefit, as well as many other things.
The key is to move the country forward.
Mützenich emphasized that the three partners met at eye level during the content-related discussions.
Nevertheless, the SPD is the strongest force.
He is confident that a social democratic handwriting will be seen in the next four years.
Juso boss Jessica Rosenthal was optimistic that a coalition could be in place by Christmas.
That would be a very good date, she said in the ZDF “Morgenmagazin”.
The exploratory paper not only contains negative things, but also positive things such as the higher minimum wage or stipulations in social policy.
She wanted to “bring home” more things for the SPD.
Traffic light starts coalition talks: Expert reprimands "underexposed" pension issue
Update from October 21, 7.15 a.m.:
The director of the Institute of German Economy, Michael Hüther, warned the coalition negotiators of the traffic light parties about dangerous failures - especially in the area of social insurance.
At the start of the talks between the SPD, the Greens and the FDP, he told the German Press Agency: "This is a central issue and, unfortunately, it is also the greatest disappointment in the exploratory paper."
Demographic aging was not taken into account at all in the paper.
“But we will have to record a loss of over three million people in the labor force in the next decade up to 2030.
That leads to completely different burdens with a simultaneous increase in the number of retirees. ”That is why there is an immense need for action.
“You can't regulate that with a share pension,” said Hüther.
"You have to talk about completely different sums." Hüther also said that the SPD had made a preliminary decision in the election campaign to maintain the pension level.
“So you have to talk about other solutions, such as annual working hours.
There would be a way out.
But the part is completely underexposed in the exploratory paper. ”CDU boss Armin Laschet also criticized the traffic light's pension plans on Wednesday.
Traffic light coalition talks begin: Baerbock announces the Greens “fight” - and reminds Lindner of the corona flop
Update from October 21,
6:35 a.m.: The coalition negotiations between the SPD, Greens and FDP start this afternoon - the Greens are combative in advance.
"We continue to fight in all areas, especially in financial policy," said Baerbock on Wednesday evening in the ARD "Tagesthemen".
The main focus is on financing climate protection and digitization.
Baerbock referred to the modernization backlog that emerged in the corona pandemic.
“We just have to remember that faxes were sent back and forth in health departments, that children could not take part in digital lessons because the WiFi did not work - all of this will only change in the future when we have billions in hand take, and that also means that we have to invest in the future, ”emphasized the Greens leader.
Regarding the dispute over the occupation of the finance ministry, Baerbock said there had been many conversations, phone calls and text messages in the past few days.
In doing so, the parties “agreed that we should first of all tighten the content-related guard rails”.
Only then would "all the departmental issues and responsibilities between the parties be clarified accordingly".
Traffic light coalition negotiations start: Juso boss rages over FDP concessions
Preliminary report:
Munich - SPD, Greens and FDP ignite the next stage on the way to the first traffic light coalition at the federal level.
The coalition negotiations will begin this Thursday, around a week after the exploratory paper has been published, in order to be able to commence government work as soon as possible.
As is well known, the presumed future Chancellor Olaf Scholz emphasizes again and again that it should be so far before Christmas.
Then he and not the outgoing predecessor Angela Merkel should give the New Year's address.
Traffic light parties start coalition negotiations: 22 working groups are formed
The starting signal for the negotiation rounds, which are certainly not subject to amusement tax, will be given by the so-called main negotiators, who are six high-ranking representatives from each party.
You will meet with the leaders of the 22 working groups.
The various teams will then negotiate the details of the coalition agreement with specialist politicians in the coming weeks.
According to previous explorations, the biggest stumbling blocks are likely to be in the areas of financial policy.
The occupation of the finance ministry also contains potential for controversy: FDP chairman Christian Lindner and Greens co-leader Robert Habeck have already publicly applied for this post.
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Now it's time to get down to business: the coalition negotiations are between Annalena Baerbock, Olaf Scholz and Christian Linder (from left) and the first traffic light in the federal government.
© Kay Nietfeld / dpa
Traffic light parties start coalition negotiations: SPD youngsters "frustrated" because of the FDP
Meanwhile, there is pressure from the party’s own youth. Jessica Rosenthal, head of the Jusos, is
“frustrated”
in an interview with the
Passauer Neue Presse
because the FDP did not allow relief for lower and middle income groups and burdens for “rich upper percentages” in the explorations. She also suggests that local transport be expanded, ticket prices lowered and Hartz IV overcome with higher standard rates and a secure subsistence level.
The Green Youth complains on Twitter: “In the current state of negotiations at the traffic light, climate protection is neglected.” The offspring of the eco-party calls for CO2 emissions to be limited to such an extent that global warming by more than 1.5 degrees is prevented.
In addition, the organization expects an exit from the use of natural gas by 2035 at the latest and a "consistent and socially acceptable" phase-out of coal by 2030 at the latest.
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Is less in agreement with the exploratory paper: Juso boss Jessica Rosenthal criticizes the concessions to the FDP.
© Kay Nietfeld / dpa
Traffic light parties start coalition negotiations: "Young liberal hunger for reform not yet satisfied"
The Young Liberals are pleased that the exploratory paper breathes the spirit for a political awakening in style and content, emphasized July boss Jens Teutrine.
He also said: “Our young liberal thirst for reform is not yet satisfied.
Now the political prose and poetry, some of which can be found in the exploratory paper, must be formulated and other points must be negotiated. "
His proposals: reintroduce the speculation period and reduce the electricity tax to a European minimum.
In addition, the FDP youngsters demand the legalization of euthanasia, the abolition of the abortion paragraph and a complete legalization of cannabis.
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List of rubric lists: © Christophe Gateau / dpa
