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Can someone explain to me why an employer has no right to know whether his employees have been vaccinated?
In every pub or theater, etc., it is most natural that you present your vaccination certificate or test.
What's the difference?
Doris Dorsch
Weilheim
Dear Mr. Söder, please think again about the 2G regulation about what you are doing to the children.
Here you are playing with both the psychological and physical development of each individual child.
The children have suffered enough already!
They divide the community and friendships of the children, they divide whole clubs, youth groups.
That has to stop!
Manuela Hering
Emmering
Word creations such as corona denier, Covidiot, moral superiority, urge to proselytize the unvaccinated, overestimation of the vaccination effect, quoting unchecked numbers and statistics, often also to the realization that: nursing was and is a stepchild even before Corona, clinics are commercial enterprises and very much the number and utilization of the Know how to dispose beds, far more people are dying of other causes, share prices of pharmaceutical manufacturers are flourishing, the residents of Sweden, Texas, Florida and others have to be ignorant and weary, that you could leave the church in the village - if you only wanted to.
Dieter Wärmek
Krün
When will you finally go over to a uniform regulation, 2G and nothing else!
Always this rumbling.
If someone who could be vaccinated does not want to be vaccinated, then he should endure the consequences with everything.
Postpone urgent surgery appointments for patients in favor of corona sufferers unwilling to vaccinate - will no longer be accepted.
If you don't want to, you already have, so wait for the hospital appointment until all urgent operations are done again.
If 75% - 80% of the occupied beds are occupied by those unwilling to vaccinate, it is a huge mess for egoists and know-it-alls.
So stay consistent and act accordingly - first mark big Max and then take the place away from others.
Peter Portner senior
Hebertshausen
Only now, with the high numbers, are you thinking about increased controls.
Where have the controls been until today?
It was easy, maybe too easy over the summer months.
In many shops and restaurants, checks were carried out correctly.
But there were also some who weren't so strict about the controls.
Now the vaccinated and all the “little ones” have to suffer again.
Visits to the hairdresser and restaurant are again limited.
Who actually controls those who initiate controls?
Hope they have themselves under control!
Klaus Nitsche
Garmisch-Partenkirchen
I don't understand why, in view of the current situation, the restrictions on the number of people who are allowed to be in a shop at the same time are not reintroduced.
That could be done very quickly and easily.
Every district administrator could do this for his area, for example in Miesbach.
I also don't understand the businesses that don't do this on their own to protect their customers.
I recently went to a butcher's shop that previously allowed a maximum of four people, now there were ten people in the shop.
We no longer need to talk about 1.5 meters away.
For me that is irresponsible behavior.
Peter Springer
Shaft laugh
With great interest and growing concern, in my role as the youth coach of the handball A-youth team at HSG Freising-Neufahrn, I followed the news and opinions of the last few days about 3Gplus and 2G. Until recently, I had the hope that there would be an exception to the 2G regulation for young people in sport. Because, as shown in the article, it was inconceivable for me that the young people who are together in physical education at school are not allowed to train together in club sports in the evening. After we succeeded in motivating the majority of young people again to do sport and to form a team again, the next social hardship strikes with all its force and suddenly.In the youth teams of our club, the vaccination rate for 12-17 year olds is well above the average for this age group. That brings an additional hardship into play, because it now affects the minority, sometimes only individuals, who are marginalized by your teams.
It is not about vehement anti-vaccination opponents, conspiracy sworns or, one size smaller, indifferent procrastinators, but about healthy young people without previous illnesses. A group of society for which the Stiko took a long time, namely until mid-August, to issue a vaccination recommendation. So it has not been three months and yet there is not even a transitional arrangement for this age group. Apart from that, it is especially true for this age group that each individual, together with their parents, must weigh up the risks and benefits of a vaccination. That is certainly not a decision that can be quickly made between the door and the hinge. Before "hardliners" clap their hands over their heads again and hit the keys,you should take the trouble to read through the notification from the Robert Koch Institute on their homepage about vaccination recommendations.
In conclusion, I would like to quote from this communication: "The Stiko expressly opposes vaccination being made a prerequisite for social participation in children and adolescents." draws correct conclusions.
Walter Schuhbauer
Freising
The arguments put forward by vaccination refusers in their full range, from corona deniers to skeptics, for over a year are sometimes hair-raising, often incomprehensible and so numerous that I will not repeat them here. But it makes you a little stunned that there is also no understanding of facts and figures in this group. If in the current fourth wave the Covid intensive care units are almost exclusively occupied by unvaccinated people, this is not a convincing fact for them.
In the five hospitals of the Munich Clinic, there are currently only unvaccinated Covid patients in the intensive care units. If, with 2 billion or more vaccine doses administered so far, the number of negative vaccine effects is below 0.5%, i.e. the risk is much lower than disease plus long covid, when scientists explain that there have never been long-term effects based on the vaccination and explain that the mRNA vaccine is not as new as the corona virus, but has been used in cancer research for many years, so at least the skeptics should recognize that the discovery and development did not take place overnight. I can only explain this misunderstanding of numbers with the fact that there is great mistrust and the published numbers are not believed.However, since the overwhelming majority of scientists, politicians, doctors, journalists in the reputable media express themselves with slight variations, nevertheless fairly similarly, about the virus, vaccine and its effectiveness, with such ingenious manipulation of the (world) population, a great zampano has to do everything plan, control and pull the strings. Hopefully they'll get hold of it soon. Just a small example of how easy it is to confirm an existing opinion: In a letter to the editor on November 9th. it says that the RKI had previously postulated an assumption that vaccinated people would pass on less coronavirus than unvaccinated people. And the writer claims that the RKI has had since 2.11. Changed his mind, because on his website it says "To what extent the vaccination reduces the transmission of the virus cannot be precisely quantified at the moment".Even if I read this text five times, I cannot say that the RKI has changed its mind. After all, the text just says that the magnitude of the reduction is not exactly known.
Günter Wurstbauer
Stockdorf
I am vaccinated twice. I'm vaccinated and no, I don't know what's inside. Neither in this vaccine nor in the ones I got as a kid. Also don't know what was mixed in in the BigMac or in the HotDogs. I also don't know what's in the ibuprofen or other medication, it just heals my pain. If you read every package insert, you would have to flush everything down the toilet immediately. I don't know every ingredient in my soap, shampoo or deodorant. I don't know the long-term effects of cell phone use, I don't know whether the food I just ate in the restaurant was prepared by clean hands or whether my clothes, curtains, sports drinks are dangerous. In short, there is much that I do not know and will never know. But I know one thing:Life is short and I still want to do something other than just be locked in my home. I still want to hug people without fear.
As a child and an adult, I was vaccinated against polio and many other diseases.
My parents and I trusted science and never had to suffer from or transmit any of the diseases I was vaccinated against.
I'm just saying it.
I was vaccinated not to please the government, but to: not to die of Covid-19.
In order not to spread this misery as much as possible.
To hug my loved ones
So as not to have to do PCR or antigen tests, to go to a restaurant, go on vacation and many other things that are to come.
To live my life.
So that Covid-19 remains an old memory.
To protect us.
Alois Sepp
Munich
Four reasons why "" 2G "is now fueling the pandemic even more instead of slowing it down:
1) The number of unreported cases will increase enormously! Fewer people test themselves voluntarily. So far, the majority of PCR tests have been carried out on the basis of previous positive rapid tests. People who have been vaccinated, although they can spread the virus in the same way, hardly have any reason to test, because mostly without compulsory testing, and if infected, then mostly without symptoms. With “3G” the spread could at least be recognized in the unvaccinated people who live with the vaccinated and have to do a rapid test. With the 2G-Plus and now the 2G regulation, this is no longer necessary. Our number of unreported cases is already very high. Currently only 8 tests per detected infection, previously it was up to over 100, on average around 50.
2) That the spread is hardly slowed down by the vaccination has been proven again in a current study (ATACCC study of October 29 in the Lancet). Unvaccinated people can live together with vaccinated people, but vaccinated people are allowed to do anything, although the vaccination only effectively protects them. If one wants to curb the infections effectively, then one would have to extend the compulsory test to vaccinated persons, at least for disco & Co. As early as August, the Oxford study discovered that infected vaccinated persons pass on the virus with the same viral load as unvaccinated persons, and that the vaccination reduces the delta Variant can only partially stop (but this is made up for because vaccinated people usually meet more people). 3) As important as these studies are, the silence about them is strong, also in the media! The effect of this silence is shocking.One still confuses the good self-protection of the vaccination with the non-existent effect against the spread! This maintains the status quo that people who have not been vaccinated are deemed to have no solidarity and that ineffective measures are taken! Israel, the vaccination pioneer country, is always at the top of the world with its infection figures! 4) A fresh rapid test is similar or even more reliable than an old PCR test. PCR is more sensitive, but usually only available the following day. In the meantime, latent infections can manifest themselves and destroy the additional security. It would be better to shorten the time limit for the rapid test from 24 hours to 6 hours, for example! All of these facts prohibit withdrawing the rapid test and prioritize vaccinated persons at all. Or is it on purposeto scare or force the unvaccinated? (with the opposite psychological effect, of course). Or (a rascal is who thinks further): Do you want to watch the pandemic explode badly and overflow hospitals, then of course mostly by unvaccinated people? Only then would the indirect compulsory vaccination for everyone actually be justified! The only good thing about the decision are the better masks! At least they help to defuse the situation!The only good thing about the decision are the better masks! At least they help to defuse the situation!The only good thing about the decision are the better masks! At least they help to defuse the situation!
Stefan Reich
Murnau
Bavaria's corona traffic light will soon be red: We are in the middle of the 4th corona wave.
What a big surprise.
It was foreseeable weeks ago.
Especially as long as nothing goes ahead with the vaccinations.
Even the boosters don't help much when so many vaccination refusals run around, organize some private town festivals (see report on the weekend) and spread Corona.
And the men / women politicians are only concerned with personal details of who could get which office, where.
What use is 3G, 3G + or 2G if it's not really tightly controlled?
Hardly any other restaurant in Munich and the surrounding area really cares about it.
Either you get waved right through as soon as you open your cell phone or it says: ... it's okay.
And if there are still guests running into the restaurant without masks and no one is interested (experienced yesterday in a restaurant in Schwabing), then we can leave all the talk about the G's the same.
The only ones who checked really carefully were the Hellabrunn zoo and the Donisl at Marienplatz.
Then you feel safer.
Seriously ill cancer patients cannot be operated on because the ITS wards are occupied by unvaccinated people who refuse to vaccinate (or must I say they are) (as reported in your newspaper a few days ago).
Finally introduce compulsory vaccinations, then it would be quiet. The risk of infection would no longer be so great, the hospitals would be relieved, and we who had been vaccinated would not have to endure all these restrictions again. In Spain z. B. 90% of the population already vaccinated and the country was really shaken.
Perhaps some of you can still remember when it was said in elementary school: Put everyone in the gym.
Then you were scratched twice in the upper arm very badly, you didn't even know what was happening, some even fell over.
That was the smallpox vaccination, it was compulsory.
You had purulent pustules for a week, nobody was interested (that'll go by again).
Then came the oral polio vaccination, same procedure.
Finally, the serial X-ray examination against TBC.
Nobody grumbled and I survived very well.
But now, just to be on the safe side, I'll go back to the “winter home jail”.
Monika Graßold
Ismaning