On Thursday, the federal and state governments will decide the further rules at the Corona summit.
There is heated discussion in advance.
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The federal and state governments will meet on Thursday to discuss further corona measures
(see initial notification)
.
Saxony's Prime Minister Michael Kretschmer (CDU) wants to "avoid as many events as possible" (
update from November 15, 10:15 pm).
The Greens parliamentary group leader Katrin Göring-Eckardt initially announced a compulsory vaccination for nursing professions, but then rowed back
(update from November 15, 4.30 p.m.).
This ticker for the Corona summit is continuously updated.
Update from November 15, 10:25 a.m.:
The Corona plans of the traffic light parties are still hotly debated - for example, the desire for a 3G regulation in buses and trains.
While transport companies and police unionists react cautiously, the CDU politician and former rail transport manager Heinrich Strossenreuther sees no problem in 3G or 2G controls in public transport.
These can be carried out efficiently as "raid missions", he explained in a tweet.
Such a procedure could lead to compliance with the rules and relieve employees.
Corona summit on Thursday: Söder sees the appointment as a problem
Update from November 15, 9.35 a.m.:
Bavaria's Prime Minister Markus Söder (CSU) has criticized the timing of the planned federal-state meeting on Thursday afternoon.
"It would have been better, instead of making a Prime Minister's Conference on Thursday afternoon, to do it in the morning or Wednesday - before the law is passed," said Söder on Tuesday in the ZDF "Morgenmagazin".
The new version of the Infection Protection Act is to be decided in the Bundestag on Thursday.
The countries should now hear what will be passed, criticized Söder.
"I would have found a joint approach better." The dispute over the measures was also noticeable in the coalition negotiations.
"There is one part who defends itself with hands and feet against tightened measures - that is the FDP," said Söder.
The others tried to solve something.
"This argument does not bring any of us anything."
Söder called for tightened measures against the corona virus in Germany.
“What we need is 2G nationwide in Germany,” he said.
As of today, stricter rules apply in Bavaria.
Corona decisions approaching: Scholz open to partial compulsory vaccination - on one condition
Update from November 15, 9.25 a.m.:
SPD chancellor candidate Olaf Scholz advocates a debate about compulsory corona vaccination for certain occupational groups - for example for employees in nursing homes. "I think it is right that we have now started a discussion about whether this should be done," said the Executive Vice Chancellor on Monday evening at an event for the
Süddeutsche Zeitung
. Just talking about it is a clear statement - the SPD, Greens and FDP have deliberately opened this debate.
Scholz said at the same time that compulsory vaccination for certain occupational groups was only possible if there was a consensus that “many want to participate”.
"When that is achieved, I think that's a good thing," he said.
Such a decision could also be made at short notice.
The Greens even announced an agreement at short notice yesterday.
The FDP was also open to the considerations on Tuesday.
Group chairman Michael Theurer said on Tuesday in the ZDF “Morgenmagazin” that he personally could “definitely imagine” compulsory vaccination for certain professional groups.
"But we are still talking about this point today."
Corona summit: no Christmas markets and no New Year's Eve parties?
Country manager makes a clear statement
Update from November 15, 10:15 p.m.:
In Germany during the pandemic this Thursday, all eyes will inevitably be directed towards the federal-state round, the so-called corona summit. When the prime ministers meet with the (probably) future traffic light coalition this time, pressing questions will arise. Last but not least, whether the Federal Republic is going into winter with a strict 2G rule in many public areas. This means that only those who have been vaccinated and recovered are allowed to go to restaurants, cinemas or indoor swimming pools, for example.
“Fighting this pandemic requires clear rules.
It doesn't help: we have to control, in the interests of all of us.
Otherwise, we cannot guarantee safe operation, "said Saxony's Prime Minister Michael Kretschmer (CDU) in an interview with ARD on this Monday evening:" We are all in the same boat.
Whether this succeeds or not depends on the quality of life we will have by Easter. ”However, Kretschmer spoke out“ clearly against compulsory vaccination ”.
Corona summit: Saxony's Michael Kretschmer (CDU) calls for the 2G rule throughout Germany
Nevertheless, the 46-year-old sent a message to the group of the unvaccinated in society.
“We have an incidence of over 1700 among the unvaccinated people,” said the head of government from Dresden, while the incidence among the vaccinated is 63. “This group, which is particularly at risk, has to withdraw,” said Kretschmer: “That's why we have we introduced 2G.
Germany as a whole must now do the same.
We have no other choice."
A broad application of the 2G rule is apparently not enough for the CDU politician.
“It's about avoiding as many events as possible.
Every event that does not take place is a win, "said the Saxon Prime Minister, with a view to Christmas markets, for example:" So that we don't overload the hospitals. "
Corona summit: Jens Spahn (CDU) criticizes unvaccinated people in Germany
Update from November 15, 9.45 p.m.:
Why did Germany slide into an awkward corona situation again?
Jens Spahn (CDU) criticizes an allegedly poor implementation of the 3G rule - and unvaccinated people.
And the acting Federal Minister of Health has a clear demand for the Corona summit from the traffic light coalition and the state premiers.
As a reminder: The federal-state meeting will take place this Thursday.
Corona summit: criticism of the planned 3G rule for public transport - "How should that be controlled?"
Update from November 15, 7:10 p.m.:
A point in the draft law of the traffic light coalition for the Corona summit on Thursday polarized three days in advance: the planned 3G rule for public transport.
Critics warn that it is not feasible in terms of human resources to check tickets and vaccination certificates or negative tests including ID cards at the same time on buses.
“We have an open system in Germany.
You have several options for getting in and out of the vehicles.
You have several options for using entrances and exits at train stations and stops.
How can this be controlled across the board with currently 15 million passengers per day? ”Said Lars Wagner, the spokesman for the Association of German Transport Companies, in an interview with ZDF.
Corona summit: Saxony's Prime Minister Michael Kretschmer (CDU) sounds the alarm
Update from November 15, 6:55 p.m.:
Is a first federal state on the verge of another corona lockdown?
Saxony's Prime Minister Michael Kretschmer (CDU) * sounds the alarm - and attacks the traffic light parties.
"This fourth wave will require more victims, including more fatalities, than anything we have known before," said Kretschmer of
Bild am Sonntag
.
With a view to a possible lockdown, the 46-year-old said: "We are running out of time."
Corona summit: NRW Prime Minister Hendrik Wüst (CDU) does not want 2G plus for vaccinated people
Update from November 15, 6.40 p.m.:
North Rhine-Westphalia's Prime Minister Hendrik Wüst (CDU), successor to the failed CDU chancellor candidate Armin Laschet, decidedly rejects a 2G plus rule at public events.
One should not impose the next duty first on the vaccinated, "who have done everything for health protection," Wüst told the
Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger
.
"We have to advertise that more people get vaccinated," continued Wüst.
Striking: The 46-year-old is currently chairing the Prime Minister's Conference, which will meet with the federal government this Thursday to avoid the next rule chaos in the coronavirus pandemic in Germany.
For example, the Bavarian Prime Minister Markus Söder (CSU) recently indicated the 2G plus rule * in his state for clubs and discos.
That would mean: Access only for vaccinated and convalescent people with a negative test.
Corona summit: traffic light coalition wants to keep schools and retail outlets open
Update from November 15, 5:36 p.m.:
After the announced corona tightening, the traffic light parties have now also made a promise: Schools or retailers should not be closed again across the board in the course of tightened corona measures.
This was emphasized by top politicians of the expected future traffic light coalition on Monday after a hearing of experts in the Bundestag as part of the legislative process on the new Corona regulations (
see update from 4 p.m.
).
Curfews will no longer be allowed and the closure of shops or schools will be excluded in this form across the board, said the health policy spokeswoman for the SPD parliamentary group, Sabine Dittmar, on Monday in Berlin.
"We provide that the schools can remain open under the given security possibilities," said Green parliamentary group leader Katrin Göring-Eckardt.
The traffic light parties also want to introduce a nationwide test obligation in care facilities.
Corona plans for the traffic light: 3G in buses and trains worries police and trains
Update from November 15, 4:35 p.m
.: Criticism of the traffic light plans comes not only from virologists, the police and train staff are also skeptical of the proposed rules.
A 3G rule is planned for trains and buses.
According to this, only those who have recovered, who have been tested or who have been vaccinated are allowed to use public transport.
However, employee representatives from the police and railway staff do not see themselves responsible for monitoring these regulations.
This was reported by the AFP news agency.
"From Verdi's point of view, such a regulation must make it clear that the control and enforcement of the 3G regulation in local public transport cannot lie with the drivers," emphasized the union's federal transport department.
"Qualified security personnel must be deployed to enforce the regulation."
Even the police do not see the control of the 3G rules as a police task.
"We are not a health police," said the chairman of the Federal Police Union in the German Police Union (DPolG), Heiko Teggatz, the
RND
.
Rather, Deutsche Bahn is responsible for trains.
Göring-Eckardt rows back when vaccination is compulsory and speaks of misunderstanding
Update from November 15, 4.30 p.m
.: The Green parliamentary group leader Katrin Göring-Eckardt had initially announced that the traffic light parties had agreed on compulsory vaccinations for nursing professions.
But a little later she rowed back.
She was misunderstood.
The traffic light has yet to advise on the subject of mandatory vaccination.
Experts: 2G and 3G rules not sufficient, "additional protective layer" required
Update from November 15, 4 p.m
.: On Monday, a committee of experts met at a public hearing in the Bundestag.
The experts gave their assessment of the planned changes to the Infection Protection Act.
The scientists dampened expectations of the 2G and 3G rules proposed by the SPD, FDP and the Greens.
"We will not prevent infections in unvaccinated people with 3G," said virologist Christian Drosten.
3G can only achieve something if it is consistently applied to “stable social groups” and tested there about every two days.
However, this would conflict with logistical requirements, which is why 3G is difficult to communicate even in the workplace, Drosten said.
As a point of criticism, the experts cited that unvaccinated groups of people could not be reached through 3G because, for example, they did not do any formal work, were retired or did not travel. 2G hardly offers these people any protection either, as they “get the virus home” in their private lives, including from children from school, according to Drosten. The expert therefore advocated an "additional protective layer" for unvaccinated groups. This concerns about the "freedom to meet".
Max Planck researcher Viola Priesemann was also critical.
Establishing only 2G and 3G in the public sector will "not be enough to bring the number of cases down." She advised a faster pace for basic and booster vaccinations.
If vaccinations reached a level like in summer, "then we would see the first effects in a month," said Priesemann at the hearing.
The Corona summit will take place next Thursday, and parliament will then vote on the proposed changes to the Infection Protection Act.
Corona summit is approaching: closings for bars conceivable?
Traffic light leaves massive intervention open
First report from November 15:
Berlin - The corona numbers are higher than ever since the beginning of the pandemic.
The federal and state governments will meet on Thursday to discuss the new measures to combat pandemic.
The first plans became known in the run-up to the Corona summit.
Traffic light parties agree on mandatory vaccination for nursing professions and contact restrictions
The traffic light parties agree on the subject of mandatory vaccination for several professions.
Green parliamentary group leader Katrin Göring-Eckardt confirmed this on Monday.
However, there is a separate legislative procedure for this, the compulsory vaccination is not part of the reform of the Infection Protection Act.
Robert Habeck, the co-chairman of the Greens, had announced a lockdown for unvaccinated people on Sunday evening.
Even after the epidemic situation has expired, the reform of the Infection Protection Act should be able to order contact restrictions.
Habeck had declared on Sunday evening in the "Tagesthemen" that the new law was not least more legally secure.
Further corona measures planned: "Actually lockdown for unvaccinated people"
In addition to the introduction of contact restrictions for unvaccinated people, the traffic light parties are planning 3G at the workplace, mandatory home office, a country opening clause and a 3G rule for buses and trains.
In future, only those who have been vaccinated, recovered or tested should be allowed to ride.
“We will enable the countries to initiate 2G plus, 2G and 3G measures depending on the infection rate.
In addition, there are ultimately contact restrictions, especially for the unvaccinated and 3G at the workplace.
This is in fact a lockdown for unvaccinated people, which is being put on the way here, ”said the deputy chairman of the SPD parliamentary group, Dirk Wiese, on Monday in the“ ZDF morning magazine ”.
Restaurants and shops should remain open.
"We don't have to close any stores, the virologists also tell us that," said Green Party leader Katrin Göring-Eckardt on Monday in Berlin.
Bars, on the other hand, could potentially close.
Corona Infection Protection Act: "Shifting responsibility from the executive back to parliaments"
With the amendment to the Infection Protection Act, the traffic light parties want to give parliaments more responsibility again. If there is a resolution of the respective state parliament, the federal states can accordingly retain individual measures in the future. This includes, for example, the cancellation of cultural or sporting events. The focus is again on Bavaria's Prime Minister Markus Söder (CSU), who recently vehemently demanded more room for maneuver - partly to the lack of understanding of the traffic light parties.
With the help of the new plans, on the one hand, regionally different infection events could be combated very specifically, "on the other hand, we are shifting responsibility there from the executive back to the parliaments", so the reasons given by the possible coalition partners FDP, SPD and Greens.
The amendment to the Infection Protection Act has already been introduced in the Bundestag, which is why the tightening that has now been agreed must be added later.
FDP politicians disagree on how to deal with unvaccinated people
Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann, member of the FDP executive committee, emphasized in an interview with
Die
Welt
that “the 2G rules only work if there is control.” If unvaccinated people try to gain access with other ID cards or vaccination passports, they have to there are correspondingly draconian punishments. "People who refuse to be vaccinated must be aware that they are not allowed to terrorize the majority as a minority and are therefore confronted with appropriate rules."
FDP Vice Wolfgang Kubicki sees it differently: He does not degrade the unvaccinated to "second class people and declare that they are to blame for the pandemic," said Kubicki in an interview with
Spiegel
on Saturday.
He suggests not distinguishing between vaccinated and unvaccinated people, because the danger comes from infected people, not unvaccinated people.
“That is why it is legally a problem to say: Vaccinated persons are allowed to go in everywhere without a test, unvaccinated persons have to be tested everywhere - or they do not come in at all, not even with a negative test.
We have to treat both groups equally, ”continues Kubicki.
"These serious encroachments on fundamental rights must be ended, Parliament must regain control over the corona policy." (
Bm
)
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