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Interview ︱ "Talents of Three Materials" Li Haoran: The greater the power of the officials, the greater the responsibility. Don't forget the humanistic care

2021-11-16T23:15:10.196Z


Li Haoran has multiple identities. He is an expert and scholar. He has written and studied the Basic Law. He has also served in mainland government departments. He is currently the director and secretary-general of the Guangdong-Hong Kong-Macao Greater Bay Area Office of China Resources Group.


Li Haoran has multiple identities. He is an expert and scholar. He has written and studied the Basic Law. He has also served in government departments in the Mainland. He is currently the director and secretary-general of the Guangdong-Hong Kong-Macao Greater Bay Area Office of China Resources Group. He has tripartite experience in government, business and academics. It can be regarded as a "three-material talent."

He recently signed up to participate in the Legislative Council Election Committee sector, which has aroused political attention.


In an interview with "Hong Kong 01", Li Haoran mentioned that by integrating various training experiences, he can have a more thorough understanding of the operation of the Hong Kong government and formulating policies in the future, especially working in a poor county in the Mainland, so that he has a better understanding of the power of the executive authority. In addition, the responsibilities, moral and psychological pressures that need to be shouldered behind are also great.

With this experience, he hopes to be wary of himself, all politicians and SAR officials. When exercising power, he must not forget the basic humanistic care and take care of the people's lives.


Regarding the changes in the political environment in recent years, Li Haoran believes that the original intent and spirit of one country, two systems is to allow the two systems to understand, communicate, and adapt to each other, but lamented that the pan-democrats have focused on political contradictions for many years and misunderstood the Basic Law and One Country, Two Systems. The original intention of using the wrong method and using the method of "extreme pressure" against the SAR and the central government eventually happened something that no one wanted to see.


The administrative thinking of China and Hong Kong is very different: the Mainland encourages "advocating new things"

Li Haoran once worked in Guizhou Province as an assistant to the county magistrate of the Xifeng County Government. He was in charge of the Education Bureau, the Judicial Bureau, the Legal Affairs Office, the Political Research Office, the Health Bureau and other departments.

He said frankly that this experience is indeed quite special. He has more knowledge in the field of public administration. At the same time, he also realizes that the thinking modes of Hong Kong and Mainland officials are obviously different: "Hong Kong officials, if you give him a "to do list" , They will do well; in the mainland, the official will attach great importance to you to initiate (initiate, advocate) some new things."

For example, Li Haoran pointed out that Xifeng County is a poorer area, but the county government will think of a lot of different expenditures to introduce funds to improve local infrastructure and improve the economy.

"For example, there is a term in the Mainland called "Run the Ministry of Money to Jin". It travels to various relevant ministries and commissions to fight for local resources. At that time, we sought to build a high-speed rail station in the county from the Ministry of Railways. This is not an established "to do list". New ideas we initiate ourselves, we will fight for them again.”

He also mentioned another vivid example: "I would be proud to tell others that I know how to raise pigs. We started a poverty alleviation project. The county government bought pig seedlings and handed them over to farmers to raise them, and then cooperated with local universities to prepare green plants. Feed. Because there is a tradition of "pig-killing feast" in the southwestern part of the mainland, pigs are slaughtered and bacon is made every Chinese New Year, so major customers in Guiyang City (the capital of Guizhou Province) will come to buy pigs. We use "green pork" as Solicit a new idea to help the pigs name them on their ears, and then take these customers to the countryside to buy pigs. As a result, these farmers can increase their income by about 3,800 yuan per year for each pig.” Li Haoran said: "The mainland has space for these new ideas, and officials are required to have their own ideas. Officials must take the initiative to conceive and have a long-term layout. In short, the ultimate goal is to improve the local economy and improve the lives of residents."

When asked whether the SAR government officials should also go to the mainland government for internships to understand the national conditions, Li Haoran smiled and said: "It must be a good thing to have the opportunity to understand each other. Internships must be a good thing!" He pointed out that through personal understanding of their respective official culture and local work patterns Conformity with folk customs can help both sides understand why these differences are behind them. It is certainly good for both China and Hong Kong to learn from each other's strengths.

Deeply feel that officials have the power to determine the happiness of others in their lives

However, in the process of serving as an official in the Mainland, Li Haoran also deeply felt that the administrative organs have a lot of power, and he must always be aware of how to use it.

For example, he pointed out that when he was in charge of the Health Bureau, he once assisted a rural area with many cataract patients to connect with expert doctors from Tsinghua University Hospital, allowing the latter to check and diagnose and treat the patients directly. Due to limited resources, not every patient could be sent. Beijing has further treatment.

"At that time, there were two more serious patients, one was 3 years old and the other was 17 years old. Both were in need, but the funds were only enough for one person. We finally sent the younger one to Beijing for treatment, and the 17-year-old one to stay. In Guizhou, another method of treatment is found, but of course Beijing has better medical resources."

He pointed out that through these examples, it became clearer that from a village or county to a special zone, province, and country, officials have great powers. "You have the right to determine the life and health of another person, behind the whole family. This burden is very heavy. You can say "the greater the power, the greater the responsibility." More accurately, it is the moral and psychological pressure."

For this reason, Li Haoran stated that he must be wary of himself and government officials. Any politician must not forget the most basic humanistic care. "This is relatively lacking in Hong Kong. Our Hong Kong politics and social culture are more commercial and profit-oriented. But in such a developed place, how can it accept that there are so many elderly people in the old district pushing carts of paper to earn that little income at 5 or 6 in the morning? I have personally learned that some People have nothing to do after retirement, but there are more and more elderly people who really have this financial difficulty, and they have to hunch back to sell paper. This is something that every politician must reflect on. Yes, society must be different. Class, but a person's basic value should not be determined by his social class."

Lament that the pan-people misunderstood the Basic Law and adopted "extreme confrontation" in one country, two systems

Li Haoran, who is a Ph.D. in Constitution of Tsinghua University, once wrote the book "An Overview of the Drafting Process of the Basic Law", discussing in detail the changes from the first draft to the final draft of the Basic Law and the controversial content in the process.

Since the reunification, political disputes in Hong Kong have been inseparable from the division of understanding of the Basic Law: the democrats demanded that Hong Kong be fully democratized in accordance with Article 45 and Article 68 commitments, but after the central government established the "total governance" over Hong Kong, in 2014 The "8.31 Decision" issued by the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress on the universal election of the chief executive was not accepted by the democrats. After the occupation, the two sides negotiated.

On the other hand, the democrats proposed the "35+" action after the legislative turmoil, trying to obtain more than half of the seats in the Legislative Council, and vetoing all government bills to trigger a constitutional crisis. The democrats insisted that this was granted by Articles 52 and 73 of the Basic Law. Power, but in the eyes of the Central Committee, this was a subversive act, which eventually triggered the 47-person primary election.

The society can't help but have doubts: When the Basic Law was drafted, were there many things that were still clarified and unpredictable?

Should we take advantage of the "50 years of unchanged" promise to enter the "second half" next year, review and revise them together and keep abreast of the times?

Li Haoran said that Hong Kong is a common law area, focusing on the text of cases and legal provisions; the mainland interprets constitutional documents based on the principle of "statutory law", attaching importance to the overall environment, the context of the entire law, and the original intent of legislation.

The distinction behind is quite complicated, but these two interpretation directions have caused many contradictions since the return. From the disputes about the right of abode in the case of Wu Jialing to the political contradictions mentioned above, they all show the different interpretations of the two legal provisions. .

However, he believes that these contradictions themselves can be reconciled through mutual understanding and communication, because the original intent and spirit of "One Country, Two Systems" and the Basic Law also include the closer and running-in of the two legal systems. It's just that Hong Kong has returned to China for more than 20 years. Many contradictions have been magnified and turned into political disputes. The society cannot rationally explore solutions. This kind of understanding is not correct.

"Over the past period of time, some pan-democratic friends used the wrong methods and developed, and finally turned into fighting for some of their ideals and concepts through "limit pressure" and struggle. This just goes against the fundamental purpose of "one country, two systems." So much so that today’s development is unwelcome to everyone.”

"One country, two systems" after 2047 "will definitely continue to exist"

Li Haoran also pointed out that although Article 5 of the Basic Law refers to "the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region does not implement a socialist system and policies, and maintains the original capitalist system and way of life for 50 years." But this does not mean 2047. Hong Kong's system will change after a year. "I can say with certainty that "one country, two systems" will still exist after 50 years (of the reunification)."

Li pointed out that the "recognition movement" in the late 1970s in China deeply understood that socialism and capitalism were only "tools" after all, not a "target", that is, the "black cat and white cat theory" that everyone heard later. As long as the country can be prosperous and strong, national rejuvenation, and people's lives improved, the two systems will definitely learn from each other's strengths.

For this reason, among the 14 basic strategies proposed by the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China, they include "adhere to "one country, two systems" and promote the reunification of the motherland."

He explained: "This is exactly the fundamental concept that Deng Xiaoping put forward at the time of "One Country, Two Systems". I don't see why Hong Kong will not continue to practice capitalism after 2047. This is not the Cold War period, and there is no longer the ideological disputes of those years. Just like you We will see today that some land leases in Hong Kong have already crossed 2047."

As for the issue of "revision of the law," Li Haoran agrees that when a constitutional document is drafted, there must be some things that were not foreseen. Because society will continue to progress and change, there will always be technical problems, but it is not necessary to use amendments. Way, there are more other methods, such as explanation.

"A constitutional document, "stability" is very important. If it is changed lightly, not only will the public perception be bad, it will also not be a good thing for the law itself."

Focus on running for the Legislative Council: nothing can be achieved by sitting on this mountain and looking at the mountain

It was once rumored that Li Haoran had the opportunity to join the government as an accountable official, but it did not come true in the end.

When Li Haoran responded to the reporter, Li Haoran jokingly said: "This is what your media said, I haven't said it!" He quoted Liang Qichao's article "Dedication and Joyful Work": "Sitting on this mountain, looking at the mountain, nothing can be achieved." Concentrate on what you are doing. If you change your mind, you will find nothing.

He said frankly that running for the legislature is a new attempt: "I have done inland local governments, policy research, and business circles. In your terms, I have changed the track many times, but I am confident that this will give me a better understanding of the entire system. A good opportunity for operation. Besides, I believe there is a lot of experience in it that is common." He also does not think there is any problem with candidates with Chinese background, because Chinese capital has always been an important part of Hong Kong citizens’ daily life.

Li Haoran hopes that under the improvement of the electoral system, there will be more room to put forward practical livelihood policies. "What I value most is "industry benefiting the people" so that the society can enjoy the fruits of economic development. Hong Kong still relies too much on a single financial industry. It’s very important, but you can’t just rely on it to drive the economy. There are only 290,000 financial-related practitioners, but Hong Kong has 3.8 million employees. Many other industries have "low wages". Hong Kong needs other advantageous industries to emerge. Obviously Hong Kong has basic research and biotechnology research done well, how can it not be transformed into an industry? Just as you have the condition of abalone, ginseng and wings, how can you still eat instant noodles every day? I am not afraid to say that the Hong Kong government is very The ability of the industry is almost completely absent."

For the list of candidates from all sectors in the Legislative Council election,

please click here to refer to the "Hong Kong 01" election website.

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