“Hard but fair” takes up the current number one topic: Compulsory vaccination or not?
The group agrees, only one guest protests.
Berlin - At 8:35 pm - earlier than usual - ARD presenter Frank Plasberg reports on Monday with "tough but fair". His question to the panel, hours after the hiccups of the traffic light parties about a partial vaccination requirement: "Is politics too cowardly for a mandatory vaccination?" A short clip introduces the debate: A comparison between the incidence figures in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Plasberg asks Lisa Federle, a doctor from Tübingen, whether she still understands people who refuse to be vaccinated. “Well, I have to admit that it is becoming increasingly difficult for me, also in my practice. And I really have to pull myself together, "says the doctor.
She worked on some patients for weeks and months. She recently went to a pub because the landlord asked her to convince the servants. You also see yourself confronted with aggression, reported Federle. Federle also has a clear opinion of the much strained argument “freedom”: “For me, freedom also has something to do with responsibility.” Those who want freedom must also take responsibility for others and for themselves. She does not see that with the unvaccinated .
Plasberg confronts Lower Saxony's Prime Minister Stephan Weil with the much-noticed statement by the Chairman of the World Medical Association, Frank Ulrich Montgomery: Germany is experiencing a tyranny of the unvaccinated. SPD politician Weil thinks this is a drastic formulation, but agrees - consequences are necessary. He considers compulsory vaccination to be a “constitutionally difficult task”, but is in favor of 3G in the workplace. Plasberg then asks Georg Mascolo, head of the research network of "
Süddeutscher Zeitung"
, NDR and WDR, depending on the possibility of vaccination.
The journalist believes in the effect and uses the obligation to vaccinate against smallpox 1874 as a comparison.
However, he differentiates between people who are actually afraid of a vaccination and those who see their rights to freedom restricted.
Journalist Svenja Flaßpöhler: "Do not portray non-vaccinated people as a stupid collective"
Frank Plasberg brings Svenja Flaßpöhler into the group. The philosopher and editor-in-chief of the
Philosophie Magazin
is the first of the previous discussants to go on a confrontation - it will stay that way: She considers it “fatal and wrong” to criminalize people who have exercised the right to refuse to interfere with their bodies. She complains that unvaccinated people are portrayed as an "indiscriminate stupid collective". There are different motives for the decision not to be vaccinated.
The immunologist Carsten Watzl recognizes the motive "fear".
However, he also attributes this to "warnings" from anti-vaccination campaigners spread via social networks.
He is honest when people ask him about the risks of vaccination.
The doctor admits that one could get myocarditis, for example, but gives people a choice: vaccination or infection.
The risk of such inflammation from infection is six to seven times higher than from vaccination.
"Hard but fair" - these guests discussed on November 15th:
Stephan Weil
(SPD) - Prime Minister of Lower Saxony (connected from Hanover)
Georg Mascolo
-
South German
journalist
Dr.
Lisa Federle
- emergency doctor
Svenja Flaßpöhler
- philosopher and journalist
Prof. Dr.
Carsten Watzl
- immunologist
Flaßpöhler also accuses the media of one-sided reporting.
Plasberg picks up speed and asks her if she would like someone in the studio with alternative facts and smugly asks: “If that's what you mean by balanced reporting?” Flaßpöhler says: You don't understand what is bad about such positions.
Georg Mascolo defends the media with two simple facts: five million infected people and soon a hundred thousand dead.
Doctor Lisa Federle: "We tricked politics"
Watzl reports on people who send him downright catalogs of questions.
After he has sent the answers back, he often gets the answer: “Now I have finally understood, now we're going to be vaccinated.” When informing about the vaccination, he makes non-medical professionals responsible: “When footballers or politicians meet You can of course express your opinion about vaccinations.
Then please inform yourself beforehand. "
Towards the end of the program, Federle reveals how Tübingen has bypassed the closure of stationary vaccination centers.
Since those who wanted to be vaccinated were waiting in the cold in front of buses, they and other responsible persons had unceremoniously set up a pop-up tent, without any inscription, without any reference to a vaccination center.
"Hard but fair" - the conclusion of the show
Unanimous opinion of the group on vaccination - except for the viewpoint of the philosopher Svenja Flaßpöhler, who, by the way, explicitly emphasizes that she was personally vaccinated.
(Michi Jo Standl)