Corona crisis without a health minister?
At “Markus Lanz”, Bremen's SPD mayor holds out his head for his party, which is not yet talking about ministerial details.
On Thursday evening, “Markus Lanz” welcomed the CDU politician Helge Braun, who reached out to chair his party. With a view to the corona pandemic, the head of the Chancellery, who is still in office, calls on the traffic light alliance to act quickly and jointly: “Put an end to tactics and get together. The modelers say yes: In order to get back down from the numbers quickly, we need a 70 percent reduction in contacts. "For talk show host Markus Lanz, this sounds like" a sentence that should end with 'Lockdown', but you don't dare to say the word 'lockdown'. "Braun averts his gaze and says:" These are definitely very far-reaching measures. "
"What are very far-reaching measures?" Asks the moderator Lanz.
Braun counts: “Christmas markets, any carnival events, some of us still have national soccer events with half-full or full stadiums.
That's still the status quo today.
So I say: Now is the time for the old and new governments to sit down and simply solve the problem. "
Traffic light coalition in the Corona crisis: "Markus Lanz" round impatiently on the question of the Minister of Health
The fact that Bremen's Mayor Andreas Bovenschulte of the SPD thinks that his party is not yet responsible, but the Managing Minister of Health Jens Spahn, gets host Lanz going. I know about Karl Lauterbach, he has also stated that here several times, they worked together extremely closely, including with the Chancellor. So there was a very close, cross-party vote. Why shouldn't that work now? "
“Yes, of course there has to be cooperation,” replies Bovenschulte, “there has to be a handover.
But that it now makes a significant difference if you name the health minister today - "Lanz interrupts the Bremen mayor:" You don't deny that it makes a difference!
It makes a difference whether I have someone in charge today or in ten days. "
Karl Lauterbach new Minister of Health?
Bremen's Mayor Bovenschulte: "I can't tell you today"
“That was decided in such a way that the ministries are first determined and then the staffing is announced,” Bovenschulte explains the line of the SPD: “The party leadership and the future Federal Chancellor have determined that.” Host Lanz is not satisfied with that, in the midst in a dramatic crisis that is not appropriate to the emergency. “I think that's not okay,” says journalist Robin Alexander: “The face of the SPD pandemic policy was Karl Lauterbach. Now you have the Ministry of Health, now people can also know whether the policy with which you were previously involved will become the health policy. ”“ The appointments to the ministries will also be announced, ”Bovenschulte appeased again,“ only that I will Can't tell you today. "
“It's now about days, every day counts”, says the biophysicist Susanne Schreiber with a view to the infection dynamics, whereupon Markus Lanz tries to use the Ethics Council member for his argument: “Is it ethically justifiable that a designated Chancellor in this situation? says: 'I'll appoint the Minister of Health in ten days.'? ”“ I can't answer that question, ”replies Schreiber,“ but I'll just ask a naive question: How does it look? Is he known internally, this person? You or him? Because then the person could already start to work. Then I would assume that responsibility will be taken and whether we know that outside or not - okay, maybe we can wait ten days. But if the person has not been determined at all, I would find that extremely critical. "
CDU man Helge Braun warns of the traffic light alliance: "In the current situation this is simply a problem"
According to Helge Braun, a look at the coalition agreement is enough to underpin his criticism of the traffic light alliance's handling of the pandemic: "When I open the coalition agreement, I see a small paragraph about the biggest crisis in our country, in which we are currently stuck .
And essentially the establishment of two further committees that are supposed to deal with it in an advisory capacity.
In the current situation that is simply a problem. "
"Markus Lanz" - these were his guests on November 25th:
Helge Braun
(CDU) - politician
Andreas Bovenschulte
(SPD) - politician
Susanne Schreiber
- biophysicist
Robin Alexander
- journalist
Following the intensive Corona discussion, "Markus Lanz" takes a look at Helge Braun's plan to become chairman of the CDU.
“What can you do better than Friedrich Merz?” Asks the moderator at Braun.
He'd rather look at himself than at his opponents Merz and Norbert Röttgen: “We now have a competition in the CDU, three candidates.
We are all not looking for the opponent in our own party, so everyone talks about what he would like to do and the members then decide in the end who they would like to see as chairman. "
“Markus Lanz” - the conclusion of the show
"Markus Lanz" looks at the corona pandemic and its political dimension on Thursday evening.
Talk host Markus Lanz and journalist Robin Alexander abuse Bremen's Mayor Andreas Bovenschulte (SPD) with the question of why the Social Democrats have not yet revealed the health minister's secret to the public.
The biophysicist Susanne Schreiber also reminds of the urgency of the situation.
Bovenschulte reacts with Nordic composure and later reports on the successful corona management in the Hanseatic city.
The politician Helge Braun (CDU) mourns the nationwide emergency brake as an instrument and, towards the end of the program, comments on his plan to become chairman of the Christian Democrats.
(Hermann Racke)
