The traffic light coalition is in place and the corona situation is escalating.
Maybrit Illner brought representatives of the new government and the new CDU opposition to one table.
It didn't get cozy.
Munich - “The new government has to go into crisis mode right from the start,” notes Maybrit Illner in the introduction to her political talk on ZDF.
The fact that the nerves are obviously quite bare in the face of the Corona situation in the country becomes apparent a little later in a heated discussion between the management representatives: The Greens leader and future Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck and CDU presidium member Norbert Röttgen clash.
Röttgen and Habeck agree on the Corona situation in the country: "Dramatic!"
First of all, both still agree.
With regard to the rapidly increasing incidence in the country, Röttgen sums up the situation: "It is the most dramatic that we have ever had in this country!" No wave has been worse before.
Habeck goes a step further and looks for the guilty party: “It is an eyesore on German politics that we ran into it like that!” He complains.
“The worst health crisis in Germany!” Now time is running out!
The infection rate is currently doubling every twelve days.
"The hospitals are already full!"
"Maybrit Illner" - these guests discussed with:
Robert Habeck (Bündnis 90 / Die Grünen)
- party chairman
Volker Wissing (FDP)
- General Secretary
Norbert Röttgen (CDU)
- member of the CDU Presidium, new party chairman candidate
Christiane Hoffmann
, author in the capital office of “
Spiegel
”, switched on
Henrike Roßbach -
Parliament Office
"Süddeutsche Zeitung"
While Röttgen appeals to “non-partisan responsibility”, “immediate action” and “contact restrictions”, Habeck gets lost in kitchen psychological analysis: “We humans are lazy beings and want to hope that what happens in everyday life will also be the same tomorrow. “In the end, politicians are also people, explains Habeck,“ Brothers of bad news ”are never rewarded with“ success. ”When Habeck chatted about overcoming“ inner indolence ”and the“ bastard ”, the“
Spiegel ”
journalist
bursts out
Christiane Hoffmann visibly the collar: “It's not about inner indolence!” She scolds from the monitor.
Spiegel journalist bursts her collar at Habeck's remarks: “Shock me as a citizen!
The journalist: According to the journalist, political leadership means adequately assessing a situation that has been recognized and taking appropriate measures and reminding you: “There were enough experts who constantly answered questions and talked their mouths upside down ! "Hoffmann visibly dismayed:" That also shocks me as a citizen! "
But Habeck continues to lose himself in the blame: "They are not all idiots," said the Green about his political colleagues.
On the other hand, the people who called for lockdown and contact restrictions had just before happily allowed to celebrate the carnival.
Habeck wuschig: "The people were drunk in each other's arms and kissed each other!"
Hoffmann sees this as a diversionary maneuver and asks directly: “What prevented Mr Scholz from standing up and saying: Attention, we are in a very difficult situation here?” With his parliamentary majority, he could have enforced a tightening of the measures.
Habeck's reprimand that the “opposition” had no insight into the numbers of vaccination doses is a great step forward for CDU man Röttgen: “Mr. Scholz was in the government!”, He objected conclusively.
FDP man Wissing speaks out against Germany-wide lockdown: unconstitutional
Hoffmann continues to criticize the future Chancellor, who has not yet clearly positioned himself on a “compulsory vaccination”.
SZ colleague Henrike Roßbach adds that there is still no longer-term timetable for an exit from the pandemic situation.
Hoffmann comments: “Exactly the kind of leadership I fear!”.
There is a "leading from behind", but in this pandemic it is simply a "leading too late".
Maybrit Illner turns to Volker Wissing, who seems the least excited in the group, presumably in the hope that the FDP man will now bring some calm to the group.
But Wissing also gets lost in explanations.
A “nationwide lockdown” would fail as a political instrument, since it had meanwhile been classified as unconstitutional by the constitutional courts.
The future transport minister will hand over responsibility for action to the federal states: “Tomorrow, the federal states should take the necessary measures provided by the Infection Protection Act.” And he explains: “Contact restrictions. Tightening. Ban on major events. That can happen immediately! ". Wissing makes it clear that the federal states are now forced to act thanks to the new law of his government: "It is not comprehensible everywhere that these measures are not being exhausted by the federal states!"
Then Habeck takes over again, who loses himself in the low vaccination rate and targets the Merkel government and health minister Jens Spahn: "Permanently wrong decisions".
Now Röttgen's collar is bursting too: “The RKI figures are known to everyone.
You have the majority in parliament!
You can't say you were in the valley of the unsuspecting for two years! ”He attacks Habeck.
The green one barks back: “That's not true now, Mr. Röttgen.
I didn't say that. ”And becomes insulting:“ You are now the opposition clown! ”
After the quarrel, Illner tried hard to get the balls flat again: "I should also like to thank you for making it possible that we discussed it that way," she said, at least outwardly, at the end of the day.
Conclusion of the “Maybrit Illner” talk
Not exactly a free choice for the new government, whose start could hardly fall into a more stressful situation.
Less blame and more action would actually be the order of the day.
Apparently there is still “practice” going on.
(Verena Schulemann)
