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Wind power meeting with Söder in Munich: Dissent becomes apparent - Habeck sets a time limit for Bavaria


Wind power meeting with Söder in Munich: Dissent becomes apparent - Habeck sets a time limit for Bavaria Created: 01/21/2022, 10:00 am By: Cindy Boden, Jonas Raab Climate Protection Minister Habeck wants to persuade Söder to turn away from the 10H. First of all, there should be more talk. But there is also a schedule. The news ticker. Because Bavaria's Prime Minister Markus Söder* is opposed t

Wind power meeting with Söder in Munich: Dissent becomes apparent - Habeck sets a time limit for Bavaria

Created: 01/21/2022, 10:00 am

By: Cindy Boden, Jonas Raab

Climate Protection Minister Habeck wants to persuade Söder to turn away from the 10H.

First of all, there should be more talk.

But there is also a schedule.

The news ticker.

  • Because Bavaria's Prime Minister Markus Söder* is opposed to wind power, Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck is looking for dialogue.

  • At the press conference it became clear: There is still a dissent with the 10H rule

    (see updates from January 20, 9:35 a.m. to 10:15 a.m.).

  • Habeck also briefly addressed the suspicion of infidelity

    (see update from January 20, 10 a.m.)

  • This news ticker is continuously updated.

Update from January 20, 3:45 p.m .:

Bavaria’s Economics Minister Hubert Aiwanger (free voters) considers the rapid expansion of wind power in Bavaria with “several hundred” wind turbines possible.

The point is not to completely overturn the controversial 10-H rule, but to allow “reasonable, targeted exceptions”.

"We want maximum resident protection where wind turbines don't belong," emphasized Aiwanger after a meeting with Federal Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck (Greens).

According to the head of the Free Voters, there are enough locations in the Free State where reasonable expansion is possible.

According to Aiwanger, there are currently around 1,100 wind turbines in Bavaria.

This means that Bavaria, as the largest federal state in terms of area, is not at the top of the list of federal states.

Update from January 20, 10:22 a.m .:

In the dispute over the expansion of wind power in Bavaria, the Free State should submit proposals by March on how capacity can be increased despite the controversial distance regulation. This is the result of a meeting between Prime Minister Markus Söder (CSU) and Federal Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck (Greens) on Thursday in Munich

(see previous updates)

. The so-called 10H regulation in Bavaria states that wind turbines must be at least ten times their height from residential buildings. You can read more details about this and possible exception rules here*. Habeck sees the regulation as the main obstacle to the stuttering expansion of wind power in Bavaria. Söder considers other obstacles to be more crucial.

Press conference with Söder and Habeck to read: "I don't want to think like that"

Update from January 20, 10:15 a.m .:

The press spokesman wants to end the conference when Habeck asks again to be allowed to say a sentence.

There will be a few more, but they show how important the topic and the visit is to the Green Minister.

He goes directly into how Bavarians feel about being no longer represented in the federal government.

His state, Schleswig-Holstein, was also like that for a long time.

"I don't want to think like that.

I am not Federal Minister for the North, but for Germany.

Especially in Bavaria I felt really comfortable politically with the Bavarian way, which somehow also speaks to me, but it's not about how you feel, it's about the responsibility you have.

When Habeck advertises that wind power should be expanded in Bavaria, he does so out of concern about national supply insecurity. He fears a "dynamics where the federal states point to each other", a downward cycle. "Here we are, if we're being honest. There has been a downward bidding competition in the past. Who is the biggest hindrance.” However, if he gets the greatest political benefit, “then we can also close the shop”. Habeck advocates facing up to what is necessary.

Here, too, Söder tries to seize the opportunity to have the last word with a "minimal supplement".

Bayern always play "offensively".

Habeck replied: "I want to see the offensive in rural areas, if you stand up and say, I'm sorry, maybe it's a change in your homeland, but in the end it protects your homeland." He receives a warm invitation to Upper Franconia then by the Bavarian Prime Minister Söder.

Bavaria's climate plan expected by March - will the federal government abolish the 10H rule?

Robert Habeck (Greens, right), Federal Minister for Economic Affairs and Climate Protection, and Markus Söder (CSU), Prime Minister of Bavaria, meet in the State Chancellery for talks.

© Tobias Hase/dpa

Update from January 20, 10:10 a.m .:

Bavaria should present a climate protection plan by March.

"I think that will happen before that," Söder even says.

There are also legal options for the federal government to abolish the 10H rule, but Habeck was "glad if we do it differently" at the press conference.

Söder: "If the federal government abolishes it, then it will abolish it and then we'll see how we deal with it."

If the expansion figures are to pick up speed again, the federal minister offers to travel to other federal states with the words: “Look what Bavaria is doing.” Söder should have liked to hear that. In any case, there should be a lot of talk in the near future, that's the plan. And the conversation was constructive and knowledgeable, emphasizes Söder. "One person is not automatically the whole party," says Söder. He gets along with some of the Greens. Others are "more difficult".

Update from January 20, 10 a.m.:

Habeck is asked by the journalists about the investigations of the public prosecutor.

These are well-known events, also from the election campaign - "in this respect, politically muddled through several times".

And further: “The public prosecutor’s office must initiate this preliminary investigation in order to clarify the facts, we are cooperating fully.

This is the normal service.

There's nothing more to say about it, everything will be cleared up quickly.

"For us, wind is a building block": Söder after meeting Habeck

Update from January 20, 9:55 a.m.:

"For us, wind is a building block, but not the only issue," says Söder. Many other federal states also find it difficult to deal with the wind. "Could be because it might not be the best patch," Söder makes clear. "It is clear to us that 10H is not the main reason, so we also believe that 10H can stay." But one is ready to talk about exceptions. Then a constructive decision should be made as to whether “that will be enough or not”. Söder welcomes this offer from the federal government. Nevertheless, it is clear that there is a dissent between Habeck and Söder on the 10-H rule. And: "We're just skeptical about the two percent," Söder says about the planned area targets for wind power. “That is at least a very big ambition. "It's a mega topic, it's a topic for the future,"but also a "mega challenge" says Söder on the climate issue and wishes Habeck "all the best".

Söder on wind power: "Strengthening strengths and balancing out weaknesses"

Update from January 20, 9:50 a.m .:

It is important for Söder that regional differences in climate protection are accepted.

“Strengthening strengths and compensating for weaknesses,” says the prime minister.

It is very positive that the federal minister is relying on dialogue “and not just on sovereignty”.

A Bavarian priority is to advance the expansion of the power line.

The Federal Minister will also take a look at it again with an analysis, it is said.

"Power lines are very important for Bavaria," says Söder, but also addresses the necessary hydrogen strategy, among other things.

Update from January 20, 9.45 a.m .:

After Habeck’s statement, it’s Söder’s turn and can’t resist a tip.

He thanks him for the dialogue, but explains that in Bavaria it is called "state government" instead of "state government".

"We can still work on things, I don't think that's the problem," laughs Söder.

Habeck visits Munich: “Hopefully we will find a constructive path accordingly”

Update from January 20, 9:40 a.m.:

Habeck explains that he spoke to Söder about the gas supply in Germany. And: "We will massively expand renewable energies," he emphasizes again. "The Prime Minister explained with great passion and persuasiveness" how important Bavaria is to climate protection and also to create climate neutrality. However, wind power must also be expanded. By March, Bavaria should explain again what plans the state government has. “We have identified a number of ways in which the expansion of wind power, which has come to a complete standstill in Bavaria, can be restarted. This exchange about this should be continued,” says Habeck. "We will hopefully find a constructive path accordingly," so that "decent figures" can be presented again, explains Habeck. "And I'm really looking forward to that."

Update from January 20, 9:37 a.m .:

"We want to give the guest the first word," says Söder and quickly thanks him for the dialogue.

Habeck also thanks him for being able to present himself as federal minister today - also as spontaneously as it was in the end.

"Our conversation was characterized by the great urgency," says Habeck about the visit.

Update from January 20, 9.35 a.m .:

Bavaria’s Prime Minister Markus Söder (CSU) and Federal Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck (Greens) appear before the press.

Robert Habeck (Greens, right), Federal Minister for Economic Affairs and Climate Protection, and Markus Söder (CSU), Prime Minister of Bavaria, during talks on climate protection.

© Tobias Hase/dpa

Söder makes the wind power point of view clear: "The north has wind, the south has sun"

Update from January 20, 9.15 a.m .:

Around 9.30 a.m. Markus Söder and Robert Habeck want to appear in front of the press after their conversation.

They meet to talk about wind power in Bavaria, among other things.

However, it is also eagerly awaited whether the head of the Green Party will comment on the suspicion of infidelity against the Green Federal Executive.

On Wednesday evening it became known that the

Berlin public prosecutor's office has initiated investigations.

The reason for this are controversial corona special payments to employees.

Habeck and Annalena Baerbock are also in their sights.

Update from January 20, 8.40 a.m .:

Shortly before the meeting with Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck (Greens) in Munich, Bavaria’s Prime Minister Markus Söder (CSU) once again made his point of view clear: “We need climate protection, security of supply and price stability for electricity,” he tweeted .

Bavaria is ahead when it comes to renewable energies from water, sun and geothermal energy.

"When it's windy, it's not 10H that's the problem, it's the topography.

The north has wind, the south sun.”

The 10H rule is likely to be one of the sticking points of the conversation.

In Bavaria, ex-Prime Minister Horst Seehofer introduced this very strict rule: According to this, the distance between a wind turbine and housing developments must be at least ten times its height

(see first report)


Habeck visiting Söder and Aiwanger: focus on the 10H rule

Update from January 20, 6.30 a.m .:

Federal Minister for Climate Protection and Economic Affairs Robert Habeck visited Munich this Thursday.

The Green politician first meets Prime Minister Markus Söder (CSU) at 8.30 a.m.

A joint press conference is already scheduled for 9.30 a.m.

Meetings with the State Ministers for Economics, Hubert Aiwanger, and for the Environment, Thorsten Faithr (both Free Voters), are planned after noon - statements should then be made again at 2 p.m.

At BMW, Habeck also finds out about, among other things, the conversion of vehicle production from combustion engines to electric motors.

The minister was already a guest at Bosch in Bamberg the day before.

The Green Minister wants to hold talks on his climate and economic policy projects in all sixteen federal states by the summer.

Shortly before Habeck's wind power lecture for Söder: Surprising 10-hour announcement from Munich

Green boss Robert Habeck comes to Bavaria to persuade Markus Söder to abandon the 10-H rule.

© picture alliance/dpa |

Michael Kappeler

First report from January 19:

Munich – The Greens go on a crisis tour: Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock has hardly returned from Ukraine and Russia when Economics and Climate Protection Minister Robert Habeck has to go – to Bavaria.

Because Bavaria's Prime Minister Markus Söder is opposed to wind power and continues to insist on the controversial 10-hour rule *, Habeck announced last week that he would go to Bavaria "very quickly".

This was preceded by Habeck's big climate protection announcement*.

Because the climate targets were missed last year, the Vice Chancellor announced new laws and the expansion of renewable energies on January 11th - and called for the 10-H rule to be abandoned in Bavaria.

Wind power: Habeck meets with Söder and Aiwanger for a crisis talk in Bavaria

It stipulates a minimum wind turbine distance of at least 10 times its height to the next settlement, which makes construction in the Free State very difficult.

The immediate reaction from Bavaria: "The 10-hour rule will not be shaken," said Markus Blume.

The Bavarian regulation on wind power ensures acceptance and ensures citizen participation, explained the CSU general secretary.

Exactly one week after Habeck's announcement*, the time has come: On Thursday (January 20), the Greens boss will meet with Prime Minister Söder and the Bavarian Minister of Economic Affairs Hubert Aiwanger (free voters).

The latter made people sit up and take notice shortly before the meeting.

Green boss Habeck visits Söder: Aiwanger speaks up with a 10-hour announcement

Shortly before Habeck's visit to Bavaria, Aiwanger (free voters) questioned the controversial distance rule. "It doesn't always have to be 10-H, often a distance of 1200 to 1500 meters is enough," Aiwanger told the


Aiwanger pleaded for exceptions: "There are various options that the population can live with." Where the municipalities and regional planning associations have already designated wind priority areas or where wind turbines are already in place, it is possible to deviate from 10-H. Then “very quickly” large areas would be available for wind power.

Bavaria's Prime Minister Markus Söder (CSU) had recently defended the regulation – but there were also other tones from Bavaria *.

Habeck's plan to make two percent of the area available for wind power, however, also causes resentment in Aiwanger.

"A rigid target of two percent based only on wind energy is arbitrary and technically wrong," he told the newspaper.

Aiwanger also criticized what he believed to be insufficiently market-oriented approach to Habeck's climate protection program: "Planned economy will not lead us to climate neutrality."

10-H rule in Bavaria: Shortly before Habeck's visit to Bavaria, Söder's wind power policy is "on the zero point"

Habeck's visit is even more explosive because it became known at the beginning of the week that Söder's wind power policy had "point to zero"*. With these words, the energy policy spokesman for the Greens in the state parliament, Martin Stümpfig, commented on figures from the previous year: For the first time since the introduction of the controversial 10H distance rule, no applications for approval for new wind turbines were made in Bavaria in the first three quarters of 2021.

In the dispute over the expansion of wind energy, the Bund Naturschutz in Bayern (BN) has again called for a move away from the controversial distance regulation for wind turbines in Bavaria.

"For a stable and at the same time sustainable power supply in winter, we need a strong expansion of wind power in Bavaria," said Chairman Richard Mergner on Wednesday (January 19) in Munich.

In the


interview, Mergner also emphasized that 6,000 to 10,000 new wind turbines would be needed in Bavaria for climate neutrality – and Söder slammed an old wind power statement around his ears*.

(jo/dpa) * is an offer from IPPEN.MEDIA

Source: merkur

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