Damascus-SANA
President Bashar al-Assad stressed that Russia is facing a war that cannot be linked to the issue of NATO expansion, but rather it is a continuous war that did not stop even before communism and before World War I, stressing that Russia's strength today constitutes a restoration of the lost international balance.
President al-Assad said in an interview with (Russia Today) channel: Russia is an ally of Syria.. Russia is undergoing a war that I do not link to the issue of NATO expansion, as some believe..This war did not stop even before communism and before World War I..a continuous war..and the role of Russia here is essential as part of the international balance.. We can look at Russia from two angles.. the angle of the ally who, if he wins a battle or if his political position on the world stage becomes stronger, then this is profitable for us.. From another angle, Russia's strength today constitutes a restoration of the lost international balance, even if It was a partial restoration.. This balance, which we seek, is reflected in the first place on the smaller states, and Syria is one of them.. This is the minimum reason, without entering into other legal details, but I am speaking strategically now.
President al-Assad affirmed that Syria would resist any Turkish invasion of its lands. He said: If there is an invasion, there will be popular resistance in the first stage.. Of course, in places where the Syrian army is present, and it is not present in all regions in Syria, and when military conditions allow for direct confrontation, we will do this. Two and a half years ago, a clash occurred between the Syrian and Turkish army, and the Syrian army was able to destroy some Turkish targets that entered Syrian territory.. The situation will be the same according to what the military capabilities allow.. Apart from that, there will be popular resistance.
Below is the full text of the interview.
an introduction:
Welcome, dear viewers, to a special issue of the News Maker program that comes to you from the Syrian capital, Damascus, and we host Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Mr. President, welcome to RT and thank you for hosting us.
President Assad:
Welcome to Syria.
I welcome you to Damascus.
Announcer:
Thank you so much
The first question:
Mr. President, beginning with the most prominent issue on the international scene, and perhaps here I will use the question posed by our followers on ARABIC.RT.COM.
Why did Damascus support the Russian special military operation in Ukraine?
President Assad:
For various reasons, Russia is an ally of Syria, and Russia is being subjected to a war that I do not link to the issue of NATO expansion as some believe. This war did not stop even before communism and before World War I. It is an ongoing war and Russia’s role here is essential as part of the international balance. We can look at Russia From two angles: the angle of the ally who, if he wins a battle, or if his political position on the world stage becomes stronger, then this is profitable for us.
On the other hand, the strength of Russia today constitutes a restoration of the lost international balance, even if it is a partial restoration, and this balance that we seek is reflected primarily on the smaller countries, and Syria is one of them. This is at a minimum the reason without entering into other legal details, but I am speaking strategically now.
second question:
Russian officials say: It is the battle of the New World Order.
Mr. President, do you consider it the final throes of a multipolar world, or is there still a long way to go before American hegemony?
President Assad:
Some talk about this war and put it in the context of the end of the unipolar system, which some assume began after the fall of the Soviet Union.
This is an inaccurate statement, and it is partly true if we talk about the issue of the Warsaw and North Atlantic alliances and the absence of an alliance, if we talk in the political sense, if we talk that the Security Council is controlled by Western powers and led by the United States in particular, but the truth is that the unipolar system began after World War II, which was embodied in the Bretton Woods conference, which made the dollar the world leader in monetary terms, more important than the military aspect now, or perhaps equal in importance so that we do not exaggerate and say the most important, is the subject of the economic results of this war, foremost of which is the position of the dollar, if the dollar continues to rule the economy Regardless of the outcome of the war, nothing will change.
The third question:
On mentioning the dollar, which many say the United States of America is blackmailing the world with, and those who disagree with it.
How do you observe or follow this Western economic war against Moscow?
Is it permissible to compare here with the economic blockade that affected Syria?
President Assad:
The issue of the dollar is not extortion, but rather theft, because the American pledge after the World War was that this dollar would express a balance of gold, and at the beginning of the seventies, the days of Nixon, the United States decided to separate the dollar from gold, and thus it became a paper of no value, But the United States can buy everything it wants from the whole world with a worthless paper. This is theft, and this theft applies to the whole world.
Today the United States increased the interest rate and therefore all other currencies fell, and the economically weaker countries were affected.
Yes, it is a means of siege, as long as the dollar is a global currency, and as long as this dollar passes through American banks or the so-called US Federal Reserve, you are under the authority of this dollar, and therefore all your future as a state, as a country, as a people, as a society, as an economy, is at the mercy of America Of course, it is certainly part of the blockade, and without this dollar, America will not be a superpower in any way.
the fourth question:
I asked you, Mr. President, about the comparison between Western sanctions against Moscow and what Damascus also witnessed, to what extent is the comparison made?
President Assad:
As for the siege - you mean apart from the dollar - of course the mentality is the same because the mentality is a hegemony mentality, a colonial mentality, and an arrogant mentality.
They believe, as it was, perhaps several decades ago, that the West possesses everything the world needs. Today, the situation has changed for Russia, for China, and for many other emerging countries. We are besieged, but many of the basic needs that we do not bring from Western countries, we cut our relations with them. The same mentality, and the failure will be the same, because any country can provide the basic requirements for survival and growth, regardless of American permissiveness.
The fifth question:
Perhaps it is a positive message for the Russian citizen, but let us also talk, Mr. President, about the Syrian citizen, and all these challenges he is experiencing economically.
Are sanctions the only reason for this crisis, the collapse of the lira, the difficult living situation and other challenges?
President Assad:
No, never, I always focus on this point openly. I say the blockade is part of the problem, because the blockade raises costs and slows down the economic process, it is true, but there are other global reasons, there are reasons related to the Corona crisis, for example, the West now wants to put All the problems are as a result of the Ukraine war, and specifically as a result of the Russian policy, the truth is not so, part of the internal problems have to do with the internal economic plans as well, not only with the external situation. Relationship to government plans, and reasons related to the general economic situation for which companies may be responsible. Perhaps the habits of citizens in different societies sometimes contribute negatively and positively to the economic situation.
Intervention:
Part related to corruption as well?
President Assad:
Exactly, the subject of economics has many factors, including management.
Sixth question:
Let us pause a little on your plans to combat corruption in Syria?
President Assad:
Most countries in a state of war postpone many of the basics, and fighting corruption is one of them. The truth in Syria, our view was completely different, because in a state of war we need to combat corruption more, for a simple reason, because war weakens state institutions, and when state institutions weaken, corruption spreads, This is a natural thing, this is one of the beginnings of the war, and it is not specific to Syria. You need more to combat corruption. We focused more on fighting corruption and we are moving in it, but of course there are obstacles, the war itself is an obstacle, the weakness of state institutions because of the war is another obstacle, the administrative system that needs For a lot of development, it is the most important factor in the fight against corruption. We do this process as a methodology.. We do it as a political, economic, administrative orientation. It does not matter where we put it.. in any sector, but it does not mean that we can achieve our ambitions in fighting corruption because of the circumstances that We live it.
Seventh question:
Especially since the Syrian people renewed their confidence in your person, Mr. President, your slogan or the campaign slogan was “Hope for Action.” However, as we toured and approached the Syrians, we sensed a kind of frustration through these difficult conditions that Syrians live in. Here we ask: To what extent can we really revive This hope, given that Syria lacks its oil resources, is under the control of other parties, we will talk about it. There is also the challenge of wheat and other challenges. What can you do, Mr. President?
President Assad:
First: Your words are correct, I raised hope, because there is frustration, because I see frustration, I raised hope, and if there were no cases of frustration, we would not have raised this issue.
Second: With regard to this slogan, it is not a slogan. It is a title for a solution, not a solution. We cannot bring hope through waiting. If we are looking for hope, and this is a natural thing for any human being to search for hope when there is suffering, the solution is to have production. Do we have production tools?
Of course we have tools, and if we did not have tools, the state would not continue, medicine in Syria is still free despite the decline in services, education is still free despite the decline in the level of education due to circumstances, support still exists despite the decline in the percentage of this support, all of these services The basics are still there, they have not changed our policies. Are there new facilities that are growing, established, or established during the war?
Of course there are, there are people who love their homeland, and take risks under these conditions that are not suitable for investment.
Eighth question:
What is required of the Syrian citizen?
How can he reconcile his daily needs, this deterioration of living, and this issue that is considered national to him?
President Assad:
We have to determine what is the main reason or what is the main challenge today for production?
If we agree that production is the solution to all livelihood and service problems, then we must see what is the main obstacle?
The main obstacle is electricity, so during the past year, and during this year, the main focus was on how to solve the problem of electricity under the siege, we were able to reach solutions, say that the year 2022 will witness an improvement in the field of electricity, and this will be reflected in production.. The problem is clear and the solution It is clear.. we are moving in this framework, but we should not raise the ceiling too much, and we believe that the problems will be solved.
The ninth question:
These attempts also apply to political reforms.. Perhaps here I am talking about the Constitutional Committee.. Why is it not progressing in its work in your opinion?
President Assad:
No, this is another issue that has absolutely nothing to do with the siege. This is a completely different issue. If we talk about the constitutional committee, what is required is to reach a constitution. The constitution - as it is supposed - expresses the desires, morals, aspirations, and culture of the Syrian people as a compromise between the various segments and currents. existing in this community.
If we want to reach this conclusion, then we are logically talking about a dialogue between the Syrians, let’s call it “Syrian-Syrian” if we assume that there are two parties in this case, but the important thing is the Syrian parties. On the issue of the Constitutional Committee, we are talking about two parties: the first was proposed by the government The Syrian government, and it does not represent the Syrian government and is not an employee in it, and therefore they are not diplomatic employees, but they are approved, or represent the viewpoint of the Syrian government, and there is another party appointed by Turkey.
The logical question is, how can there be a Syrian-Syrian dialogue with a Syrian side and a Turkish side?
Here lies the problem, so we do not reach anything, because the first party expresses the aspirations of the Syrian people, while the other party simply expresses the aspirations of the Turkish government.
Tenth question:
However, Mr. President, it is okay to talk about what the other side is saying.. There are those who say that the Syrian government has fears that the Constitutional Committee will come in what interferes with the president's powers.
What is your response?
President Assad:
There is no problem. The Syrian constitution does not express the viewpoint of neither the president, nor the government, nor the ruling party. It expresses the viewpoint of the Syrians unanimously. Anything agreed upon by the Syrians is correct. A settled issue, there can be no stability with a constitution that contradicts the desires of the people, this is first. Therefore, anything they reach in the Constitutional Committee now or later or in any other circumstance must return to a popular referendum, it will not come to the government to issue a constitution.
This issue is settled. It reflects the people and the people's desires. Either the constitution will succeed or fall.
Eleventh question:
The consensus among the Syrians is perhaps the goal in this general amnesty, and talking about Decree 7 also opened the door for refugees to return to Syria and other reform decisions. However, there are some criticisms that say that whoever opposes and opposes the presence of President Bashar al-Assad in power will be treated as a traitor. for the homeland.
President Assad:
No, in Syria we have laws, and we do not have what is called a “political prisoner.” The word “political prisoner” does not exist. There are national postulates. We must be wary of the idea that political freedom means encroaching on national postulates. Someone may come and say why not give up The occupied territories of “Israel”?!
This issue is held accountable by law, this is a national issue and not a political one, and in other different issues the situation is the same, as for the opposition of the president, there are many Syrians present now who do not agree with me on many policies. Another.. Whoever opposes the president, opposes the president. There is no problem. It does not affect me personally. This is not true.
Intervention:
This also applies to the Kurdish forces?
President Assad:
The Kurdish issue is a different issue, the Kurdish issue if we take it in the national sense. They are a nation that has existed in Syria throughout history, and the largest part of this nationalism are patriotic people, but there is a part of them as there is a part of the Arabs, and a part of non-Arabs from different segments puts themselves in the position of the client , especially for Americans.
The problem here is not at all related to the issue of neither the president nor the political opposition, it is related to the issue of the unity of the Syrian homeland.
Raising the issue of having multiple nationalities within the framework of cantons within the framework of federations, this means a prelude to division, while there should be Syrian diversity within the framework of national unity. The Syrian, and not the other way around, but when it is presented in the wrong frame, it turns into a curse on the country, and this is what we do not allow.
Intervention:
The door is open for dialogue, with the exception of those whom it described as agents of the United States of America.
President Assad:
Sometimes we even have to talk to clients.
Twelfth question:
However, I would like to focus on the Kurdish forces, especially as they control or control oil wells with American support.
What is your view here and what are the papers of Damascus to recover its property and lands?
President Assad:
The problem of the occupation, any occupation in any country, or any invasion is not the invasion itself, no matter how big the army is. The problem is the agents who go with the invader. Here lies the problem, and this is in Syria. There are forces operating under the authority of the American on his behalf against the unity of Syrian society. The natural reaction will be in this case - and this is something we see in those areas in the eastern regions - is that the vast majority of citizens do not accept deviations towards the occupier and treachery, so conflicts have begun between these forces and the citizens, as long as there is employment, the occupier will remain strong. There must be a cleaning of agents, a weakening of these agents, then the occupier will automatically exit because the popular resistance will become against him, so the solution to facing any invasion when you do not have the military capabilities is the popular resistance, this is the solution.
Thirteenth question:
Here we are not only talking about the American challenge, but you also have Turkey, which has not hidden its pursuit of what it describes as the establishment of a safe zone that extends inside Syrian territory. What are your plans to prevent this?
President Assad:
In the same context as well, if there is an invasion, there will be popular resistance in the first stage, of course in the places where the Syrian army is present, and it is not present in all areas in Syria, and when the military conditions allow for direct confrontation, we will do this thing. This happened two and a half years ago. There was a clash between the army The Syrian and Turkish forces, and the Syrian army was able to destroy some of the Turkish targets that entered the Syrian territories, the situation will be the same according to what the military capabilities allow, except that there will be popular resistance.
Fourteenth question:
What about Idlib?
What is your opinion about her situation?
President Assad:
Like any occupied land, it is subject to Syrian military and political plans for liberation.
This issue is settled, any land occupied by either the Turkish or the terrorist will be liberated with time.
Fifteenth question:
However, in light of all these thorny files, there are those who talk about reconstruction. Are there urgent plans for that?
Are there any countries that may have expressed their willingness to participate?
There is also, Mr. President, a link between this file and your visit to the UAE capital, Abu Dhabi.
President Assad:
There are companies that have expressed their desire - not countries - from different Arab countries, of course, bearing in mind that there are severe pressures on any company that can invest in Syria through imposing sanctions on it from the West, of course, so this process will be slow and risky for many of them. Nevertheless, there are companies that have begun to invest in Syria by means of circumventing sanctions, but if we want to talk about reconstruction in its broad sense, I cannot say that the current circumstance, neither the political, nor the security, nor the economic, allows for reconstruction in the broad sense, however. The reconstruction process began, albeit with a narrow framework, some of it through investors, companies and people who are reconstructing their facilities, and another part has to do with what the state is doing to rebuild the main economic life arteries in some major cities.
Sixteenth question:
I would like to stop at this visit to Abu Dhabi, the return of Syria through the wide door as it was described.
How do you see it?
President Assad:
I don't know how the wide door is defined and what does the word return mean?
We did not leave, Syria remained in its place with the same attitudes, in the same circumstances, dealing with it in its own way and according to its principles and visions, but I want to say that the Syrian-Arab relations during the war did not change much in substance, most of the Arab countries maintained their relationship with Syria, most of the Arab countries were standing morally with Syria.
Intervention:
So that withdrew its diplomatic missions?
President Assad:
Yes, even those who withdrew their diplomatic missions maintained the relationship and maintained positive emotions toward Syria without being able to do anything.
The situation is now the same with some formal changes more clearly for this relationship with the change of circumstances, perhaps regional and global and any other circumstances - I cannot speak on their behalf - I do not think that there is a big change in content, the big change is in the form.
Question seventeen:
Let's ask frankly.
Is there no malice from Damascus against the countries that abandoned it in their crisis?
President Assad:
First, hatred is a sign of weakness.
Second: Hatred does not lead to anything, to any positive results related to relations with countries.
Third: We have to differentiate between policy mistakes made by countries and between peoples. We seek Arab-Arab relations, meaning the people.
There is no malice.
Fourth: We know that the Arab countries have conditions. We can say: No in many aspects.
Perhaps many Arab countries can not say no.
We do not justify, this is not justification, but this is a reality. We must deal with the fait accompli.
Now blaming and blaming do not achieve a result, let's look to the future, this is what we say in all dialogues, we look to the future, what happened in the past happened.
Reprimanding does not change anything, the destruction occurred, the loss occurred, blood bled, so let's talk positively, this is the Syrian methodology.
Eighteenth question:
In the near future, the Arab summit that Algeria will host, a lot is talking about your presence.. Are there any steps in this direction?
President Assad:
ربما سيكون الوزن الوحيد لهذه القمة أنها تُعقد في الجزائر، هذه حقيقة وأنا لا أجامل لأن علاقة سورية مع الجزائر بكلّ الظروف منذ الاستقلال عن الفرنسي في أول السبعينيات حتى اليوم هي علاقة ثابتة، وهناك شيء وثيق بين الشعبين لأن التاريخ ربما متشابه مع اختلاف الأزمنة. لكن إذا تحدثنا عن الجامعة العربية بمعزل عن قمة الجزائر، فالقضية ليست عودة سورية، أو عدم عودتها، وكلمة عودة خاطئة، لأنّ سورية ما زالت في الجامعة العربية، هي تعليق عضوية وليس خروجاً. المشكلة، ماذا ستفعل الجامعة العربية في المستقبل سواء كانت سورية أو لم تكن؟ هل ستحقق شيئاً من آمال المواطن العربي؟ لا أعتقد أنّها خلال العقود الثلاثة الماضية حققت شيئاً، وبكلّ تأكيد بأنّها خلال العشرة أعوام الماضية كانت هي الغطاء للعدوان على ليبيا، وللعدوان على سورية، ولكلّ عدوان آخر. فالسؤال هل ستتمكن من تغيير هذه المنهجية أم ستستمر؟ إذا استمرت الجامعة العربية بهذا النهج فلا يغير شيء.
نحن نخضع كدول عربية بشكل عام لضغوطات خارجية في كلّ الملفات.. طالما أننا خاضعون لهذه الملفات فالنتيجة واحدة، النتيجة هي نتيجة سلبية. فهنا تصبح عودة سورية أو إلغاء التعليق، العودة عن التعليق هو شيء شكلي، ربما يكون له بعض الفوائد ولكن لا نعوّل عليه.
السؤال التاسع عشر:
من خلال الخطوات التي تمّ اتخاذها مؤخراً من بينها الزيارة إلى أبو ظبي.. هذا الحديث الإيجابي أو النبرة الإيجابية في الخطابات الإعلامية للعديد من العواصم العربية. يمكن أن نراكم في الجزائر ومن بعدها أيضاً من خلال هذا المدخل إلغاء التعليق كما قلتم؟
الرئيس الأسد:
أنا سأكون سعيداً بزيارة أي دولة عربية.. هذا الشيء أكيد ولكن هذا لا يتم من دون دعوة، من الطبيعي ومن البديهي أن أفكر بزيارة الدول العربية، لأنّه بالرغم من كلّ الوضع العربي السيىء بلا حدود علينا أن نخفف الأضرار، وأن نتلافى المزيد من السقوط، فالحوار مع الدول العربية ومع المسؤولين العرب هو شيء أساسي.
السؤال العشرون:
هنا ربما نشير إلى شيء مهم جداً.. كثيرون يقولون إنّ أيّ عودة للعلاقات الطبيعية مع الدول العربية تمر عبر باب العلاقة مع إيران وأنها لن تكون بذلك الكمال ما دام هذا القرب بين دمشق وطهران.. كيف يمكن لسورية أن توازن بين علاقاتها مع إيران من جهة ودعني أقول المملكة العربية السعودية إن عادت العلاقات من جهة ثانية؟
الرئيس الأسد:
أولاً: علاقات سورية مع أيّ دولة غير خاضعة للنقاش مع أيّ جهة في هذا العالم، لا أحد يحدد لسورية مع مَنْ تبني علاقات ومع مَنْ لا تبني علاقات، لا يحددون لنا ولا نحدد لأحد، لا يتدخلون بقراراتنا ولا نتدخل بقراراتهم، هذا الموضوع غير قابل للنقاش وغير مطروح على الطاولة، حتى لو طُرح معنا كنا نرفضه من البداية هذا أولاً. ثانياً: كثير من الدول التي كانت تطرح هذا الموضوع في السابق واليوم هو غير مطروح منذ أعوام، هي نفسها تحاور إيران، وهذا تناقض. ثالثاً: إيران دولة هامة إذا أردنا أن نتحدث عن الاستقرار في منطقة الشرق الأوسط، فنحن بحاجة لعلاقات مع كلّ هذه الدول. انطلاقاً من هذا الكلام إذا أردنا أن نتحدث عن موضوع التوازن بين العلاقات، المبدأ خطأ.
مداخلة:
خصوصاً أن دمشق حققته لسنوات طويلة.
الرئيس الأسد:
تماماً لكن ليس انطلاقاً من فكرة التوازن، لأن التوازن يعني بأن هناك أطرافاً متناقضة نوازن بينها، نحن لا نرى الأمور بهذه الطريقة، نحن نرى أنّ كلّ هذه الدول لديها مصالح مشتركة، العملية ليست بحاجة لتوازن في العلاقات، بحاجة إلى انفتاح، بحاجة لعلاقات جيدة، الآن هناك حوار بين عدة دول خليجية وإيران، نحن ننظر إليه بشكل إيجابي بغض النظر عن علاقاتنا مع هذه الدول الخليجية.
السؤال الحادي والعشرون:
يمكن أن نشهد وساطة ربما بعد عودة العلاقة إلى طبيعتها لدمشق بين الرياض وطهران؟
الرئيس الأسد:
طبعاً، المنطق الأساسي يقول بأنّه إذا كان هناك خلاف بين أطراف لديكِ علاقة جيدة معها، فمن الطبيعي أن تلعبي دور وساطة لتُقربي بين هذه الدول لأن هذا يخدم المصلحة الخاصة والمصلحة العامة لدول المنطقة، هذا طبيعي. ولكن نحن لا نمتلك هذه العلاقة الطبيعية الآن مع كلّ الأطراف، فلا نستطيع أن نلعبها في الوقت الحالي.
السؤال الثاني والعشرون:
العلاقات الطبيعية أو التطبيع شهدته أيضاً عدد من العواصم العربية مع “إسرائيل”, كيف تتابعون تطبيع هذه الدول مع “إسرائيل”؟ وهناك حتى شائعات لم تستثنِ سورية، هناك من ذهب إلى أن دمشق ستطبع بشرط استعادة الجولان المحتل, هل يمكن أن يحدث؟
الرئيس الأسد:
أولاً المصطلح خاطئ نحن نرفض في سورية منذ بداية عملية السلام في التسعينيات مصطلح التطبيع، لأن التطبيع هو عملية يُفترض كمصطلح لغوي عملية طبيعية والعملية الطبيعية يجب أن تسير كالماء بشكل سلس من دون عقبات ولا يمكن أن تكون قسرية ولا مفتعلة، فكلمة تطبيع هي كلمة مفتعلة، الهدف منها دفع العرب باتجاه تقديم تنازلات ل”إسرائيل” مقابل لا شيء، هذا هو الهدف.
نحن في سورية نتحدث عن علاقات عادية مرتبطة بعملية سلام، وعملية السلام مرتبطة بعودة الحقوق، هذا موضوع محسوم. هذا جانب، الجانب الآخر نحن ضد العلاقة مع “إسرائيل” بغض النظر عن تسمية تطبيع أو غيرها منذ أن بدأت مع مصر في منتصف السبعينيات وحتى هذه اللحظة نحن في نفس المكان، لا نوافق على أيّ عملية ونعتقد بأنّ كلّ هذه العمليات من وجهة نظر سورية أضرت بقضيتنا السورية إن لم نتحدث عن فلسطين، نحن نتحدث الآن عن سورية، ولكن الثغرة الأكبر في هذا الموضوع هي اتفاقية أوسلو، لأن اتفاقية أوسلو هي تقديم كلّ هذه المزايا ل”إسرائيل” من قبل صاحب القضية وبالتالي أصبح مبرراً لأيّ دولة في العالم أن تقوم بعملية يسمونها “تطبيع”، سلام مع “إسرائيل”، لا يهم ، لأن صاحب القضية تنازل عنها -هكذا يعتقدون- فإذاً نحن ضد التطبيع لأنه يؤثر علينا. بالنسبة لسورية لن تغير موقفها طالما أن هناك أرضاً محتلة هي الجولان، عندما تعود الجولان لكلّ حادث حديث ويأتي في إطار ليس التطبيع وإنما العلاقات العادية بين أيّ دولتين, علاقات عادية لا تعني حرارة ولا برود تعني ما يريده الشعب، وكيف يحدد الشعب.
السؤال الثالث والعشرون:
مع ذلك ونحن نتحدث أيضاً يستمر القصف الاسرائيلي في الاستهداف آخرها ربما كان في محيط مطار دمشق نود أن نسمع منكم تعليقاً أيضاً على ذلك؟
الرئيس الأسد:
هذا موضوع مختلف، ولو أنه في النتيجة يصبّ في نفس الموضوع هو دَفعُ سورية باتجاه التنازلات، ولكنّ التدخل الاسرائيلي بالبداية الزمنية كان مرتبطاً تماماً بمرحلة انهيار الارهابيين في سورية، لأن الإرهابي بالنسبة لنا هو جيش إسرائيلي ولكن بهوية سورية أو بهويات أخرى، فعندما بدأ هذا الإرهابي يتراجع وتنهار معنوياته كان لا بد من التدخل الاسرائيلي لرفع معنويات الارهابيين وإعادة تحريكهم، فإذاً ما يحصل الآن من قبل “إسرائيل” يأتي في هذا الإطار ولا يأتي في أيّ إطار آخر.
السؤال الرابع والعشرون:
السؤال الأخير الذي أختم به مع سيادتكم هذه الصورة التي يقدمها الغرب عن الرئيس بشار الأسد يقولون الرئيس الذي يقف ضد شعبه وضد القوى الإقليمية والدولية، اليوم بعد قرابة سنة من إعادة انتخابكم من قبل الشعب السوري، وهذه النبرة الإيجابية كما ذكرت للعديد من العواصم العربية والغربية أيضاً أو دعني أقول الدولية. هل تغيرت الصورة؟
الرئيس الأسد:
بالنسبة للناحية الشعبية نعم تغيرت، ليس لأننا تمكنّا من مخاطبة الغرب، فاللغة مختلفة والقدرات الإعلامية مختلفة، ولكن الكذبة الكبيرة التي استخدمها المسؤولون الغربيون في البداية والمبالغات التي لا حدود لها، جعلتهم في موقف صعب، جعلتهم كَمنْ صعد على الشجرة وذهب عالياً، ولم يعد يعرف كيف ينزل عن هذه الشجرة.
فهذه الكذبة لو تابعنا الصفحات الرسمية للمواقع الإعلامية الرئيسية في الغرب التي هي على علاقة وثيقة وتحالف مع القوى السياسية، والتي ما زالت مستمرة بنفس الكذبة، تُظهر بأن التعليقات التي يكتبها المواطنون الغربيون بشكل عام، تعبر عن عدم قناعتهم بكل ما يقولون. فالثورة إذا كنا نتحدث عن ثورة، ما هي هذه الثورة التي تستمر لأحد عشر عاماً ومع الدعم لأقوى الدول في العالم ولأغنى الدول في العالم أيضاً ومع ذلك.. والشعب طبعاً، يُفترض بأن الشعب يؤيد هذه الثورة وهو ضد هذه الدولة، ولم تسقط هذه الدولة؟ هل هي دولة مكونة من سوبرمانات؟ هذه الكذبة غير مقنعة، لا توجد ثورة تستمر كلّ هذا الوقت, بالإضافة للكثير من الأكاذيب الأخرى، الأكاذيب على شعبهم التي افتُضحت مع الوقت، فأستطيع أن أقول: نعم الصورة تغيرت، لا يعني بأنّ المواطن الغربي يعرف ما يحصل، لا، هو يعرف بأن هناك كذبة كبرى، ولكن ليس بالضرورة أن يعرف ما هي الحقيقة الكبرى في منطقتنا.
مداخلة:
في انتظار أن يعرف الحقيقة الكبرى..
President Assad:
To be so.
Announcer:
We thank you very much for this dialogue, Mr. President, especially since RT is going through difficult circumstances and many harassments.
Thank you very much for having us.
Your Honor.
President Assad:
Thank you for your visit to Syria. I want to take advantage of this occasion to congratulate the Russian people on the occasion of the National Day, which falls on the twelfth of this month. You mentioned the siege on RT. You are part of the battle, and you are one of the weapons. A similar battle, but with different titles - it does not belong to the gun or the missile, it belongs to the truth, the biggest victim during the past decades with all the issues that have been raised is the truth.
Hello.
Announcer:
We thank you very much, Mr. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Thank you very much, viewers, for watching.